Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > Remove too much shine (via channels)?

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Delicate Editing

Posts: 152

London, England, United Kingdom

Hi all,

I'm working on a cool photo at the moment.
The model has quite a lot of shine in her face due to the lighting and makeup and I would like to turn it down a little but not to remove it completely.

I don't like using clone stamp or healing brush on shine very much, and also with d&b it can be very tricky sometimes.

I've seen a tutorial ages ago (but can't find it anymore) where someone used the channels I think, then painted black over the very bright areas. That didn't remove the shine completely but made in blend in a lot better.

Does anyone know hoe this works or has another very good technique to work on shine?

Thanks so much,

Nadine

Oct 18 10 05:41 am Link

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FLEXmero

Posts: 1001

Madrid, Madrid, Spain

Delicate Editing wrote:
Hi all,

I'm working on a cool photo at the moment.
The model has quite a lot of shine in her face due to the lighting and makeup and I would like to turn it down a little but not to remove it completely.

I don't like using clone stamp or healing brush on shine very much, and also with d&b it can be very tricky sometimes.

I've seen a tutorial ages ago (but can't find it anymore) where someone used the channels I think, then painted black over the very bright areas. That didn't remove the shine completely but made in blend in a lot better.

Does anyone know hoe this works or has another very good technique to work on shine?

Thanks so much,

Nadine

Personally i do like shine. I don't like the velvet look that some other people love and i respect. Natalia is a fan of velvety skin, you could ask her.

Now, regarding the channels. If you paint black on a channel, you are colorizing the composite. For instance, if you paint black on the red channel, you are only painting cyan on the merge. Now, here's what you can do.

Make a copy of the blue or green channels. That's where most of the skin's  texture is. Use that channel as a new layer and put it on top of your image. You can multiply it or even use it in luminosity mode. After that, the magic happens on the mask and the opacity.

I'm making this up as i type as it would be one of the things i would try.

Oct 18 10 06:16 am Link

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Vearts

Posts: 129

Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden

It is very simple:
1. Color range select the brightest area on the skin (shine part)
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5092877029_f087b717c1_b.jpg
2. Create  an ADJ layer with Solid color pickup the skin color form your image
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/5092877677_dca511d608_b.jpg
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/5093477650_f31ca1cb18_b.jpg
3.  Fill the mask with black and go to history and check the last state with mask and paint with history brush with low opacity level to reveal your mask
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5092878641_9d4f548055_b.jpg
Your mask painted with history brush
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5093478324_6d70290665_b.jpg
before&after
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5093478700_3928b9a75e_z.jpg
hope it's helpful.

Oct 18 10 06:45 am Link

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FLEXmero

Posts: 1001

Madrid, Madrid, Spain

Or that too...

Oct 18 10 06:55 am Link

Photographer

WMcK

Posts: 5298

Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom

The way I have used (which I learned from a magazine article) is as follows.
Create a new blank layer. Select the healing brush and set "Sample" to Current and below" this bit is important. With the top blank layer active, clone from a non-shiny part of the skin till the shiny are is covered.
Now activate the background layer and go to "Image/ Calculations"  Select "Background" as the layer and "Blue" for the channel  for both sources. For "Result" you want "Selection," then press "OK" you will now have a selection corresponding to the highlight, the shiny area.
Now select the top layer. Go to "Layer/ Layer Mask/ Reveal Selection" and your shiny areas should disappear. Now adjust the transparency of the top layer to give the most natural effect.

Oct 18 10 08:55 am Link

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Delicate Editing

Posts: 152

London, England, United Kingdom

Thank you so much guys, your examples are amazing.
That's really nice of you smile

Oct 19 10 07:55 am Link

Photographer

Dreamscape Creative

Posts: 479

Charleston, South Carolina, US

Vearts, are you feathering your selection at all?  I generally find that if you don't, the edges of such adjustments come out a bit too evident.  Am I incorrect in this particular instance?

Oct 19 10 10:50 am Link

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Krunoslav Stifter

Posts: 3884

Santa Cruz, California, US

Dreamscape Creative wrote:
Vearts, are you feathering your selection at all?  I generally find that if you don't, the edges of such adjustments come out a bit too evident.

I usually do. I just love that readjustable Feather Slider in the mask panel. I just love that little feature. Been using it all the time since it become available.

Oct 19 10 11:01 am Link

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Rob Mac Studio

Posts: 1105

London, England, United Kingdom

Krunoslav-Stifter wrote:

I usually do. I just love that readjustable Feather Slider in the mask panel. I just love that little feature. Been using it all the time since it become available.

Yeah it's very ueful, before that i would find myself guassian blurring the mask more

Oct 19 10 11:33 am Link

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Vearts

Posts: 129

Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden

Dreamscape Creative wrote:
Vearts, are you feathering your selection at all?  I generally find that if you don't, the edges of such adjustments come out a bit too evident.  Am I incorrect in this particular instance?

Yes I use feather from mask panel because I love to work nondestructively  but for color range it's not the case here.
ex: color range with fuzziness set to 32(which is luminance levels and magic wand with tolerance 32 the same luminance levels) color rage gives you smooth transition the best choice for me here.
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5097410243_fc910df01b_z.jpg
If I'm building mask yes I use feather, but for texture I don't use because I prefer sharpness in my details not smoothness.
For this effect I haven't use feather the mask has all the detail that i need and I like to keep it that way.

Oct 19 10 03:05 pm Link

Photographer

N Done

Posts: 10

Nadine, I am trying to get hold of you.

Oct 22 10 02:28 am Link

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retouchbysui

Posts: 104

London, England, United Kingdom

Thats a really good tip, thanks for sharing!

Oct 25 10 03:21 pm Link