Orca Bay Images wrote:
Oh, bite me.

Ninja wrote:
I'm so sick of seeing threads of people being butthurt
because so-and-so didn't respond to their message.

Double agreed.

MisterC wrote:
I soooo agree with those.

Except I like vague comments. : )


Double agreed.

Vague comments are fine if the person you're saying them to understands your sense of humor and knows you well enough to know what you're talking about without feeling confused.

For the rest of the population, its annoying to have to decipher what someone is saying.  Especially when they're making a joke off topic to the thread and then berate/humiliate you for not getting it right away.

Ninja wrote:
"DO NOT SOLICIT SOMETHING WITHOUT INCLUDING THE OPTION, WITHIN THE SOLICITATION NOTE, FOR THE PERSON YOU ARE SOLICITING, TO COMPLETELY IGNORE YOUR SOLICITATION AND NOT FEEL BAD AT ALL FOR DOING SO

I actually don't agree with this one. If I want something from someone, I am not going to make it easy on them to ignore me. They can do that all on their own without any help from me. Now, I am NOT going to pester them with repeated messages if they don't answer the first one, nor am I going to throw a hissy fit if they do ignore me. But I don't think there's anything wrong with wording the initial message in such a way as to let the person know you would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.

Ninja wrote:
I think this one might be my favorite:

"DO NOT SOLICIT SOMETHING WITHOUT INCLUDING THE OPTION, WITHIN THE SOLICITATION NOTE, FOR THE PERSON YOU ARE SOLICITING, TO COMPLETELY IGNORE YOUR SOLICITATION AND NOT FEEL BAD AT ALL FOR DOING SO

If the purpose of your email is to ask a question whose answer may be “no” include a disclaimer saying something like “If your answer is ‘no’ then feel free to not respond to this email. I completely understand. Thank you for your time.” Or “If you want to ‘pass’ for whatever reason simply ignore this email. I completely understand. Thank you for your time.”

I'm so sick of seeing threads of people being butthurt because so-and-so didn't respond to their message.  Get over it, no one is entitled to receive a response each and every time they send out a message.

That was one of the exact things I was thinking when I posted it...lol.

I haven't read the author's books so I don't know if any of the article is tongue in cheek but it seems pretty sincere and I'm down with a lot of the stuff he said.

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

I actually don't agree with this one. If I want something from someone, I am not going to make it easy on them to ignore me. They can do that all on their own without any help from me. Now, I am NOT going to pester them with repeated messages if they don't answer the first one, nor am I going to throw a hissy fit if they do ignore me. But I don't think there's anything wrong with wording the initial message in such a way as to let the person know you would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.

Do you expect replies when sending out resumes for work?  No one is obligated to respond to you if their answer is no.  Making them feel guilty about it is rude.

"How to be considerate on the internet"

That's not what the internet is for.   

Jay  Edwards wrote:

That's not what the internet is for.   

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

I actually don't agree with this one. If I want something from someone, I am not going to make it easy on them to ignore me. They can do that all on their own without any help from me. Now, I am NOT going to pester them with repeated messages if they don't answer the first one, nor am I going to throw a hissy fit if they do ignore me. But I don't think there's anything wrong with wording the initial message in such a way as to let the person know you would appreciate the courtesy of a reply.

Um...yikes.

Ninja wrote:

Do you expect replies when sending out resumes for work?  No one is obligated to respond to you if their answer is no.  Making them feel guilty about it is rude.

I did not say anyone was obligated to reply. And I am not "making" them feel anything; their feelings are their business. But there is also something to the saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." You have to get noticed to get anywhere in the world. It is counter-productive to invite people to ignore you.

And please note, I am not, not, not one of the photographers who posts endless rants in the model forum about models not responding to messages. That is NOT what this is about.

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

I did not say anyone was obligated to reply. And I am not "making" them feel anything; their feelings are their business. But there is also something to the saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." You have to get noticed to get anywhere in the world. It is counter-productive to invite people to ignore you.

And please note, I am not, not, not one of the photographers who posts endless rants in the model forum about models not responding to messages. That is NOT what this is about.

I'd rather be noticed by having a good portfolio/resume and good reputation than by being the "squeaky wheel."

Ninja wrote:

I'd rather be noticed by having a good portfolio/resume and good reputation than by being the "squeaky wheel."

So you believe that if you go quietly through life, doing good work, being nice to people, and having a good reputation, that eventually you will be rewarded? I believed that too for 40 years, and it never got me anywhere. My father believed it his whole life and it never got him anywhere either.

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

So you believe that if you go quietly through life, doing good work, being nice to people, and having a good reputation, that eventually you will be rewarded? I believed that too for 40 years, and it never got me anywhere. My father believed it his whole life and it never got him anywhere either.

Yeah?  It got me from working in a smallish town pizza joint outside of Madison, WI, to working full time in a cable tv network in Los Angeles...where I'm going to be getting promoted soon.

So much for not getting anywhere.

Ninja wrote:

Yeah?  It got me from working in a smallish town pizza joint outside of Madison, WI, to working full time in a cable tv network in Los Angeles...where I'm going to be getting promoted soon.

So much for not getting anywhere.

Maybe it's different for women. But nobody likes a "nice guy". We have to be a little assertive.