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What makes you take initiative to work with a client? What's key to models catching a photographer's attention? Thanks! Aug 27 11 09:18 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: $$$$$$$$$$$ Jennifer Kate wrote: Abs and a pretty/handsome face. Aug 27 11 09:22 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: There is something interesting about you and you're not nuts. Aug 27 11 09:23 pm Link For me, if the model doesnt have at least a few clear photo's of her face in different facial expressions, then its an automatic no. I want to know who im working with, and not be surprised the day of the shoot. A good haircut and attractive face+body helps as well  Aug 27 11 09:27 pm Link An interesting look or style.....sometimes what she has written in her bio or maybe the way that she approaches and asks me to work together, stuff along those lines. If she is nice and we have fun I'll continue working with her. And, I can tell you some things that would keep me from working with someone. Negativity, WriTinG likE THIs, etc...! Ha! Kidding! Aug 27 11 09:32 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: Money in my bank account Jennifer Kate wrote: Decent portfolio without cell phone images and other cheesy images. Aug 27 11 09:48 pm Link You have my attention as you look quite lovely. one thing slightly strange is how you spelled photographers. It makes me wonder if it was a subliminal thing to say photog-rapers  only teasing. Keep up the good work! Aug 27 11 09:59 pm Link **one thing slightly strange is how you spelled photographers. It makes me wonder if it was a subliminal thing to say photog-rapers wow, can't believe I wrote that. oops. Thanks everybody else for responding, I'm simply interested in learning about different PHOTOGRAPHERS and what you all love about the art! Aug 27 11 10:12 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: For me, and many photographers, the "client" and the model are two completely separate entities. My initiative for working with a client is how much they are paying me. A model who meets the requirements of the client's job gets my attention. Aug 27 11 10:19 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: A client? The right amount of money for the project they have in mind. Aug 27 11 10:21 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: To catch my attention, a model either has to have a good look or has the same interests in creating the same type of work that I like. And if her profile is well put together, I'll usually make contact. Aug 27 11 10:23 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: Initiative to work with a client- compensation and being able to deliver what I promise Aug 27 11 10:27 pm Link Jennifer Kate wrote: I'm going for the jobs that I know pay well and if they don't pay as well as I would like they offer you an inspiring work environment or subject to tackle. Aug 27 11 10:32 pm Link Client: money - it's a job and money is the bottom line. If the job is fun, in a great location and involves working with interesting people, I'll work for less than if it's a boring PITA to achieve with dull, unimaginative trolls... Model: your look, your attitude/personality and your location - it's pointless contacting you for work in Germany if you live in California... "Look" should be evident from your port: a good range of looks, poses and facial expressions will tell me that you're versatile and willing to do more than just stand there like a shop-window mannequin. If you're relatively new and don't have a large number of images to call upon, then indicate your abilities and willingness to adapt to different scenarios in your written profile. "Attitude/personality" should come through in your written profile: speaking personally, "funny" is always a Good Thing... (just as 'demanding' will make me switch off faster than anything else). Even a thoroughly miserable job can be made bearable if the people you work with are fun to be around, just as a seemingly great job can be made miserable by having to work with idiots or dullards... To the OP: were I in Nebraska I would definitely contact you with a view to booking a test shoot. The few images shown are intriguing enough to make me want to see more and the written profile indicates a passion for the job. Aug 28 11 03:48 am Link I don''t worry about paying clients much. Family, pets etc get away with a lot because I am taking their money. Sometimes things that would otherwise drive me nutsis tolerated because these people are giving me money. Dogs get away with even more because they are family. I normally shoot for the pleasure of photography. I absolutely love it so I do a lot of TF, so I am less likely to deal with cetains because I don't have to do it. A model, MUA etc gets one shot at correcting the term 'tog.' If they call me that in their initial contact, I will refer to myself as a photographer in my response. If their next message contains 'tog' I usually find that I am busy when they want to shoot. Another thing that is a deal breaker for me is netspeak. I am usually pretty easy to get along with but you must speak, understand and write at least one recognized language. "WTF my bf does not want me nifoc, Is that a prob?" Is not one of those languages. The other day I got a message from a model who wants to work with me. I looked at her profile before responding. It says in her profile that she will do nudes but she will not take her clothes off for free. I responded to her by saying I'd love to work with her but most of the concepts I have in mind require at least a little nudity and since I am not in a position to pay models, I will have to pass. She responded by saying she would waive the fee in order to work with me. I sent her four basic concepts I had in mind and said if she would do one of them, I will do on that a concept that she also wants to do. That way we both come away with something we want. She wrote back saying she was disappointed that all four of my ideas require nudity but she will take me up on the offer to just shoot the concept she has in mind. That shoot's not going to happen. Models have to read everything too. The people I look forward to working with are the models who have some ideas, but also the ones who hear one of my concepts and say "holy fu.....what if we...: Molels with ideas of their own, or ideas to improve one of my concepts steal my heart every time. I like models who are willing to talk stuff through. Three times now I've nudes with models who will never shoot nudes.Two who I'd shot with before, had asked if I had any concepts in mind that they could shoot 'this weekend.' In both cases I did but they required nudity. In both cases they asked what the concept was and when I told them, the wanted to, and did, shoot the photo. Recently I was working on a photo that didn't require a model but once I got the image finished I thought it would be spectacular with a nude model. Just so happened I was chatting with a model that evening. I showed her the image I'd just shot and explained how I did it and that I want to do it with a nude model. She said, "Shit... I'll be right back." She came back a minute later and said, "You're not doing that photo with anyone but me." I said, "You don't do nudes." She said, "I just talked to my husband likes you and trusts you. He said I can do whatever I want. I want to do that picture. I am going on vacation until September 3. Can we di it when I get back?" I like enthusiasm. Models never have to bring their own concepts to a shoot but if they do, thats awesome. If they come up with ideas to make my concepts better, so much the better. Models who have lists of favorite images on their profile page get my attention. Models who go out of their way to make the shoot better or more fun get cookies. Its great when a model is absolutely beautiful but physical beauty takes second place to enthusiasm and model-smarts. A real message gets my attention. An "Interested" emails does not. Aug 28 11 06:01 am Link There is something about her that is different or unique. Also in emails or conversations with her I pay attention to what she says or her attitude. Some have come off as being "diva's" or they seem to amplify "bitch mode." These are turn offs for me and I pay more attention to the model that studies the concept and is excited about it. Granted, the one's that may be thought of as being "diva's or bitchy" might not be that at all but when that gut feeling kicks in, I pay attention to it. I have been working with a model this summer that goes above and beyond what I expected from her, hence I will shoot with her anytime I can. Aug 28 11 06:12 am Link The potential for beautiful images. That's it, my only motivation in selection. Aug 28 11 07:02 am Link As far as clients go, there is a qualification process especially with weddings etc. but I assess their needs, quote a price, and go from there. They qualify me the same way. Do I have the personality they want to bring out the mood they want? Am I within their budget? Do our own terms of doing business match up? If yes to those things, we are a match! So really with clients, it's about money, and not living to regret taking on that job. Models and TF. It's equally about look and personality for me. I really don't look for personal info, but a positive and outgoing attitude goes a long way. Negative energy, spotty communication, obvious lack of intelligence, and demands etc. will surely make me NOT work with them. I am on MM for fun and to fill my creative outlet, and in turn, doing a fun creative shoot once in a while helps me carry out that creativity with client work. Aug 28 11 07:14 am Link I contact a model that has a look I am trying to add to my portfolio that will increase the likelihood that a client will envision themselves in a similar set of photos and book me. Will the client look like the model, most likely not. But it is the same concept as advertising, will the average person look like the model in the jeans ad-probably not, but they will still buy the jeans. Aug 28 11 10:16 am Link |
