Patrick Walberg wrote:
Ok, did he tell you the exact age of his niece or other details about her?  Did he ask if you would shoot her nude?  What exactly did he say that caused your suspicion?

Michael DBA Expressions wrote:
Yes, they do. There is a young man in my church, an Asperger's syndrome 20 something currently in jail. His crime: letting a supposed 16 year old girl send him a raunchy photo. The guy is not one of the high IQ Asperger's patients, actually pretty average in that department, but just a really nice guy, would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it. But VERY naive. VERY.

So, when he gets out next year, he'll be a felon, have to register as a sex offender, and generally pay for the rest of his life for talking online with a cop pretending to be what he wasn't. (Note please: they were supposedly on the opposite coasts, and no attempt was made to actually meet up.) Meanwhile the folks responsible for the economic meltdown are still on the job, making millions in salaries and bonuses. Does this make you say "huh?"

Girl should be in prison then for sending out kiddy porn.....

Oops!

All I am gonna say is this - Get ID!

Michael DBA Expressions wrote:
Yes, they do. There is a young man in my church, an Asperger's syndrome 20 something currently in jail. His crime: letting a supposed 16 year old girl send him a raunchy photo. The guy is not one of the high IQ Asperger's patients, actually pretty average in that department, but just a really nice guy, would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it. But VERY naive. VERY.

So, when he gets out next year, he'll be a felon, have to register as a sex offender, and generally pay for the rest of his life for talking online with a cop pretending to be what he wasn't. (Note please: they were supposedly on the opposite coasts, and no attempt was made to actually meet up.) Meanwhile the folks responsible for the economic meltdown are still on the job, making millions in salaries and bonuses. Does this make you say "huh?"

That is a sad story and I have no doubt it is true.  Let's distinguish though.  It is one thing to look for people collecting child porn or wanting to have sex with a minor.  It is another to try to induce someone to shoot a minor.

With child porn, all you have to do is to get the person on the other end to knowingly ask for an inappropriate image of a minor.  If you send them the image and then catch them in possion of it, you have made your case.  The police do that all the time.

It is much harder to prove that someone wants to shoot illegal images of a minor unless they specifically ask for something illegal, i.e. simulated nude sex, for example.  If someone merely agrees to photograph a minor, that doesn't by itself, necessarily constitute an illegal act.They'd have to get you to agree to shoot a minor, then bring someone appearing to be a minor, you would then have to do the shoot and the shoot would, in fact have to involve illegal images.  It is much more complex.

They are generally more interested in going after peopel who are already in posession of illegal images or are already shooting nudes of minors.  They don't tend to fish for that as much.

ei Total Productions wrote:

That is a sad story and I have no doubt it is true.  Let's distinguish though.  It is one thing to look for people collecting child porn or wanting to have sex with a minor.  It is another to try to induce someone to shoot a minor.

With child porn, all you have to do is to get the person on the other end to knowingly ask for an inappropriate image of a minor.  If you send them the image and then catch them in possion of it, you have made your case.  The police do that all the time.

It is much harder to prove that someone wants to shoot illegal images of a minor unless they specifically ask for something illegal, i.e. simulated nude sex, for example.  If someone merely agrees to photograph a minor, that doesn't by itself, necessarily constitute an illegal act.They'd have to get you to agree to shoot a minor, then bring someone appearing to be a minor, you would then have to do the shoot and the shoot would, in fact have to involve illegal images.  It is much more complex.

They are generally more interested in going after peopel who are already in posession of illegal images or are already shooting nudes of minors.  They don't tend to fish for that as much.

+1

Doug Lester wrote:
Do police troll? Of course they do, but email is far more common than phone calls. Years ago I suddenly began receiving emails, supposedly  from 14 to 17 year old girls wanting to pose nude. I received so many that I had a cut and paste response. I would receive at least two per month for a good six months, all different. Finally I received a very legit sounding email from aomone who described herself as being a 14 year old model who was about to move to the Atlanta area with her family.  After several emails asking about model agencies and schools in the area, commercial modeling options and so forth, again, very legitimate sounding.  Note I was doing both commercial and artistic artistic nude work at the time, with both represented on my web site.

Then she asked if I would like to see a couple of photos from her portfolio. I replied yes and she sent me four raunchy nudes of a typical 14 year old girl, shot with a point and shoot. I jumped all over her ass for both posing for those shots and for sending them to me. She broke off contact and I later discovered her email address to be gone.

Then, like someone had thrown a switch, I never received another solicitation from an underage model. I've no doubt at all that those emails were from a 40 year old cop rather than an underage model. Apparently I was added to an OK list.

There's little doubt it was a cop because it was 4 pictures.  Generally, 3 is okay.  Seriously, that's considered accidental.  But 4 is the magic number.  Glad you got out alive.

The Don Mon wrote:

awesooooooome .... lol

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JBerman Photography wrote:

I almost cried with laughter at this gif.