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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Not all images I have in my head can be photographed, so I am resorting to put them on Bristol board with dry media (mostly Prismacolor) or acrylic on canvas.


https://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376596_10150368780005458_640525457_8700588_1205119067_n.jpg
"The Optimist" by udor (2011), Category: Surrealism,  Drymedia on Bristol board, 14 x 17 inches
(It is not varnished or mounted yet.)

I have some more on facebook UdoR Fotografie as wall posts...

Just sharing... and I don't mind if you don't like them!

EDIT: You can see more at ArtSlant.com.

Nov 18 11 12:11 pm Link

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CottonCandie

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San Francisco, California, US

Reminds me a little of Cyriak... but he's a video editor, not so much a traditional artist.

Nov 18 11 12:45 pm Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

This is sort of a Dali/Miro.  LOVE it!

Nov 18 11 01:03 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

CottonCandie wrote:
Reminds me a little of Cyriak... but he's a video editor, not so much a traditional artist.

Very cool!

I just googled him and checking his site... quite interesting.

Thanks for sharing!

udor

Nov 18 11 01:48 pm Link

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Inactive K

Posts: 803

Pago Pago, American Samoa, American Samoa

ooo thats cool! Anytime I think of surrealism my mind instantly goes to Salvador Dali... This is actually not too far off, like Barbara said. Very nice work.

and the ladder in the clouds reminded me of that scene in "The Truman Show" twoards the end... smile

Nov 18 11 01:50 pm Link

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Damon Strong

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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

I love these!  Have you ever considered selling your work?  These would sell for big money.

Nov 18 11 01:55 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Barbara DivaEroticus wrote:
This is sort of a Dali/Miro.  LOVE it!

Thank you very much!

I kinda feel sometimes that I am closer to Magritte... at least that's the feeling I get when I look at his stuff.  smile

udor

Nov 18 11 02:22 pm Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

udor wrote:
Thank you very much!

I kinda feel sometimes that I am closer to Magritte... at least that's the feeling I get when I look at his stuff.  smile

udor

Magritte...yes, he's the one with the apple picture.  Very surrealistic, and that's actually a better comparison than Miro.  Dali/Magritte it is!

Nov 18 11 02:36 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Kymlee wrote:
ooo thats cool! Anytime I think of surrealism my mind instantly goes to Salvador Dali... This is actually not too far off, like Barbara said. Very nice work.

and the ladder in the clouds reminded me of that scene in "The Truman Show" twoards the end... smile

Thanks Kymlee!

I actually don't remember that part of the Truman Show... I think I watched it only once... sad

Nov 18 11 03:49 pm Link

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YvonneEmilie

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Thats awesome!

Very Magritte indeed. He's one of my favorite artists.

Nov 18 11 03:53 pm Link

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Inactive K

Posts: 803

Pago Pago, American Samoa, American Samoa

udor wrote:

Thanks Kymlee!

I actually don't remember that part of the Truman Show... I think I watched it only once... sad

it was the end when he took the boat out to sea and conquered his fear... a storm hit and then all of the sudden the skies cleared and he was passed out on the boat, then the bow of the ship crashed into the wall of the dome which were painted like a blue cloudy sky... and truman stepped out walked up some stairs while the "creator" was talking to him, and the door opened. Almost exactly like your photo, but replace the ladder with stairs...

lets just say that I love that movie. haha. big_smile

Nov 18 11 04:19 pm Link

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Lovely Day Media

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Vineland, New Jersey, US

The ladder in the picture reminded me of a joke.  smile

  This guy dies and finds himself in a room that has nothing but a ladder that goes through the ceiling, so he climbs the ladder.  When he gets to the next level, there is an average looking woman without a stitch of clothing on.  She says "you can stay here with me for all eternity or you can climb the ladder to success".  He climbs the ladder.

  When he gets to the next level, there is a nice looking woman there who says the same.  He climbs the ladder.

  When he gets to the next level, there is an absolute knock out who could've posed for Playboy's centerfold.  She says the same thing ... you can stay here with me for all eternity or you can climb the ladder to success.  He climbs the ladder.

  When he gets to the next level, there is no ladder to another level and the door slams shut behind him.  He sees this big, greasy looking joker who has the worst smell he could possibly imagine.  The big, greasy guy looks at him and says ... "Hi ... I'm Cess".

Nov 18 11 04:52 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Damon Strong wrote:
I love these!  Have you ever considered selling your work?  These would sell for big money.

Honestly, yes... BUT... not now. I have had several offers over the past year or two, but I dutifully declined.

For one reason only... I want to first do exhibits and getting a better name recognition, increasing my public profile and hoping that the market value increases.

There are some people in high-art who are considering to advise me on how to proceed the smartest way (the pedigree is outstanding of those people... I won't name names... LOL but one of them is a former(!) curator for one of the big art museums in NYC.

I will see her either the end of December or sometimes in January...

We'll see.

Nov 18 11 05:58 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

YvonneEmilie wrote:
Thats awesome!

Very Magritte indeed. He's one of my favorite artists.

It seems that I can say that of you too (after visiting your port)... smile

Nov 18 11 07:45 pm Link

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Giacomo Cirrincioni

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Stamford, Connecticut, US

Super!

Nov 18 11 07:47 pm Link

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Top Level Studio

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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

The topic reminds me of something Jimi Hendrix said about not being able to play the music in his head. 

His recordings were mere approximations of what he could hear.

Nov 18 11 07:56 pm Link

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R A V E N D R I V E

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New York, New York, US

I am impressed


Although I have seen Dali's surreal work I do not immediately relate everything surreal to him, since I grew up playing surreal video games

Nov 18 11 08:42 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
I am impressed


Although I have seen Dali's surreal work I do not immediately everything surreal to him, since I grew up playing surreal video games

Your sentence, Sir, appears to be in the surrealistic realm itself!  tongue

Nov 18 11 09:48 pm Link

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Garry k

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Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

You seem to have a fondness for Sweets

Nov 18 11 10:28 pm Link

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R A V E N D R I V E

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New York, New York, US

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
Although I have seen Dali's surreal work I do not immediately everything surreal to him, since I grew up playing surreal video games

udor wrote:
Your sentence, Sir, appears to be in the surrealistic realm itself!  tongue

busted

Nov 18 11 10:46 pm Link

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Al Lock Photography

Posts: 17024

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

Why can't you photograph them?

Nov 19 11 12:01 am Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Here is one, which is more of an illustration from earlier this year (also, neither varnished or mounted yet) and, although the meaning is different, it also fits perfectly into the "Occupy Wall Street" movement:


https://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302562_10150369848880458_640525457_8704067_306868556_n.jpg
"Prostitutes" by udor (2011), Category: Social Criticism, Drymedia on Bristol Board, 14 x 17 inches

Nov 19 11 06:36 am Link

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STL-After-Dark

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Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Very nice, I love surrealism!

Nov 19 11 06:55 am Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Kymlee wrote:

it was the end when he took the boat out to sea and conquered his fear... a storm hit and then all of the sudden the skies cleared and he was passed out on the boat, then the bow of the ship crashed into the wall of the dome which were painted like a blue cloudy sky... and truman stepped out walked up some stairs while the "creator" was talking to him, and the door opened. Almost exactly like your photo, but replace the ladder with stairs...

lets just say that I love that movie. haha. big_smile

Now I remember that scene... yeah, that was pretty cool.

Nov 19 11 09:24 am Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Lovely Day Media wrote:
The ladder in the picture reminded me of a joke.  smile

Very funny!!! big_smile

Nov 19 11 09:25 am Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

R A V E N D R I V E wrote:
Although I have seen Dali's surreal work I do not immediately relate everything surreal to him, since I grew up playing surreal video games

Now I understand... yes... it's correct... we all connect Dali to surrealism, but there are others with different styles and techniques too.

Nov 19 11 09:26 am Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Al Lock Photography wrote:
Why can't you photograph them?

Actually... most of them I "could" photograph... but then I would have to become a digital artist... and I am not ready for that route...

Nov 19 11 01:49 pm Link

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Daniel

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Brooklyn, New York, US

udor wrote:
it also fits perfectly into the "Occupy Wall Street" movement:

How's that?

Nov 19 11 01:53 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Daniel wrote:

How's that?

The guy in the art work is a Wall Street guy (see the power suit, tie, Financial Times and general attitude!). You can see only him and the street hooker... nobody else can be seen... and the title is "plural"..., so the banker too is a prostitute.

The actual meaning behind this painting is that if you have to sell yourself for a paycheck... and don't live your dreams... you are prostituting yourself.

Nov 19 11 02:03 pm Link

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Daniel

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Brooklyn, New York, US

udor wrote:

The guy in the art work is a Wall Street guy (see the power suit, tie, Financial Times and general attitude!). You can see only him and the street hooker... nobody else can be seen... and the title is "plural"..., so the banker too is a prostitute.

The actual meaning behind this painting is that if you have to sell yourself for a paycheck... and don't live your dreams... you are prostituting yourself.

Noted. But what if the paycheck was the dream?

Nov 19 11 02:05 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Daniel wrote:

Noted. But what if the paycheck was the dream?

Then he wouldn't be a prostitute... duh! big_smile

Nov 19 11 02:08 pm Link

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Llobet Photography

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Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

I had read you are a surrealist painter also and was hoping to see some of your work.  Thank you for posting.  I am a fan of surrealism and love Dali and many others.  I really like your work and style; it is reminiscent of Magritte.

BTW, I have more respect for the female in your last work than the male.

Nov 19 11 04:48 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

BlueMoonPics wrote:
I had read you are a surrealist painter also and was hoping to see some of your work.  Thank you for posting.  I am a fan of surrealism and love Dali and many others.  I really like your work and style; it is reminiscent of Magritte.

BTW, I have more respect for the female in your last work than the male.

Thank you!

Re: the "last work"... it's actually just uploaded... it's from a shoot I did in 2006. Never finished the final product (gallery showing and online slideshow presentation).

It's a whole series... and both played well... but Reby... the model... she IS a kickass model and all over the place (she is also further down my portfolio).

Later and thanks for the compliment!

Btw... I posted more on my facebook account (not all is surrealistic tho)

Nov 19 11 06:39 pm Link

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Al Lock Photography

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Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

udor wrote:

Actually... most of them I "could" photograph... but then I would have to become a digital artist... and I am not ready for that route...

Long before digital existed, there were photographers capturing images like yours using rear projection, multiple exposures and other techniques.

Choose to be the artist you want to be. Camera or brushes or poster board are just tools.

Nov 19 11 06:49 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Al Lock Photography wrote:
Long before digital existed, there were photographers capturing images like yours using rear projection, multiple exposures and other techniques.

Choose to be the artist you want to be. Camera or brushes or poster board are just tools.

Absolutely true... and that's why I consider myself a "visual artist" with solidly standing in the photographic realm... but using, besides light, graphite, colorpencils, acrylic and occasionally... very occasionally... almost never... oil... smile

Btw... I am also talking about my walking eyeballs and fishmen... etc... those could be generated digitally or with rubbersuits... but I like to put them on canvas or Bristol board instead. (That's really my reference in my title)

Nov 19 11 07:21 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

STL-After-Dark wrote:
Very nice, I love surrealism!

I just looked at your portfolio... and, well... yeah... I can see that you love surrealism... you are creating some fun fantastic worlds in your photos.

Very interesting!

udor

Nov 20 11 08:24 am Link

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Jules NYC

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New York, New York, US

Very nice work:)

Here's Robert Crumb's take on what's going on in his head ~

https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp7iofyvKw1qzhnmco1_500.gif

Nov 20 11 08:43 am Link

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Stay Puft

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Ofu, Manu'a, American Samoa

Your first one evokes Magritte, I think, simply because of the cloud and sky background. Nothing else about it really reminds me of him.

https://zachbart.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/magritte-the_false_mirror1.jpg

Nov 20 11 09:20 am Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Jules NYC wrote:
Very nice work:)

Here's Robert Crumb's take on what's going on in his head ~

Thanks Jules! big_smile

Yeah, I have a man like that sitting in my head too... but mine is not frightened... he is retarded (sorry for not being politically correct... hey... it's my retarded man in my head... big_smile

Nov 20 11 11:54 am Link

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Luke Lenz

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Berlin, Berlin, Germany

Yeah I dig it for sure.

Nov 20 11 02:06 pm Link