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Photographer

Ed Woodson Photography

Posts: 2644

Savannah, Georgia, US

Wonder if she'd shoot with me at age 67?

What I've learned at age 67, with grey hair and being a bit portly.

Whatever it is, I'm automatically guilty of it.  smile

Jun 10 12 07:07 pm Link

Photographer

DG at studio47

Posts: 2365

East Ridge, Tennessee, US

hell, I'm old and ugly. that's the real reason why I tell models to focus on the lens.you dodged a bullet.the model will grow up one day and realize what an opportunity she tossed aside. hope it bites her in her necked bootay.

Jun 10 12 07:10 pm Link

Photographer

Moore Photo Graphix

Posts: 5288

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Move on OP! She's showed her true character. Be happy that those who choose to shoot with you appreciate your talent regardless of age.

Jun 10 12 07:10 pm Link

Photographer

Phillip Ritchie

Posts: 1105

Costa Mesa, California, US

David E Parvin Studio wrote:
I am absolutely delighted to find someone on MM older than I am, I will not be 70 until Feb. 23, 2013! While I would love to have my youth back for any number of reasons; being a 28 year old captain/pilot in the Marine Corps was truly not a bad place to be... However, I have not noticed any disadvantages with working with models. In fact, I think my age is welcomed by boyfriends, husbands, mothers, and fathers. Anytime someone has ever suggested judging a person by his/her appearance, I have always asked if he/she has ever seen a photograph of Ted Bundy.
Dave

Dave a picture of Ted Bundy  LOL  awesome 

so am I the oldest GWC on MM  is any one  on MM older  than me ,I can step down  and be younger you know ,

Jun 10 12 07:10 pm Link

Photographer

Oscar Partida

Posts: 732

Palm Springs, California, US

Maybe she's just looking for dating and  Hooking up with young photographers on MM ,who knows

Jun 10 12 07:11 pm Link

Photographer

Edge of Illumination

Posts: 201

Dover, Pennsylvania, US

Nelia wrote:
I have pretty much given up on trying to make sense out of a lot of people's deductive reasoning / logic skills or lack of those skills!

If I was a model, I would be doing almost anything I could to be able to work with an artist of the caliber of Phillip Ritchie!  Of course, he would have to still be breathing and have a pulse!

Nah, he would still be better than most then.

Jun 10 12 07:12 pm Link

Photographer

Gems of Nature in N Atl

Posts: 1334

North Atlanta, Georgia, US

now then when you get to MY age, you will more fully appreciate the occasional loss of memory...........i dont give a damn who thinks what.if i want to shoot it i will...

Jun 10 12 07:15 pm Link

Model

Jen B

Posts: 4474

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:
I just had a message from a MM model that had asked to do a nude erotic shoot with me,
I replied yes, this is her reply 

hey Phillip
OMG I have to cancel my shoot with you as I just read your front page thing wow your as old as my grandpa ,
so it's feels really weird to be naked , I think you do beautiful pics

sorry hope you understand xxxxxxxxxxxx


, I sort of do under stand but dam now I feel really old LOL

does any one else think that maybe you can be become to old to shoot nudes,
my work is more erotic than just nude maybe she thinks I should not still be thinking like that ,

thoughts any one  I have also told her I just put it on the forum maybe she will come in and reply , I am not upset just make s me think

Hello,

I think her reply had nothing to do with your ability to take a photo or your age to be a photorapher that shoots nude but a WHOLE lot to do with what her intention or expectations in doing a nude photo shoot are.

Perhaps that model is not only immature but, was looking to have some other psychological/physical/emotional needs met by having done a nude photo shoot? Who knows but, your age likely spared you an emotionally unstable model attaching herself to you!

Luckily, she self-selected herself out of the picture for you!
Jen
edit to add: Oh my GOSH, I didn't realize it was YOU, "the" Phillip Ritchie...gulp, if you even read this!@!
p.p.s. I'd bet she was put up to it by some jealous sweetheart parnter/ photographer who has such photo envy of you he or she can't see straight, (i.e. not realistic reason.)

Jun 10 12 07:18 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

Hell, I'd shoot nudes with you

Jun 10 12 07:27 pm Link

Photographer

CANDELA Photography LLC

Posts: 31

Newark, Delaware, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:
I just had a message from a MM model that had asked to do a nude erotic shoot with me,
I replied yes, this is her reply 

hey Phillip
OMG I have to cancel my shoot with you as I just read your front page thing wow your as old as my grandpa ,
so it's feels really weird to be naked , I think you do beautiful pics

sorry hope you understand xxxxxxxxxxxx


, I sort of do under stand but dam now I feel really old LOL

does any one else think that maybe you can be become to old to shoot nudes,
my work is more erotic than just nude maybe she thinks I should not still be thinking like that ,

thoughts any one  I have also told her I just put it on the forum maybe she will come in and reply , I am not upset just make s me think

explain her that you are the photographer, probably she was looking for something else. like you be doing the erotic posing with her.

Jun 10 12 07:29 pm Link

Photographer

TouchofEleganceStudios

Posts: 5480

Vallejo, California, US

You know you are old when you take a viagra and all that gets hardened are your arteries 

smile

Jun 10 12 07:34 pm Link

Photographer

TouchofEleganceStudios

Posts: 5480

Vallejo, California, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:

well looks like you know about this ,

I still remember the days of being a stud as I said remember ,
wow so long ago ,

have to watch out for  these beautiful models so they do not give me a heart attack

great input

I do. Yes I do. At the Senior Center we get excited when a young 55 year old bends over and her boobs almost mop the floor.  smile

Jun 10 12 07:37 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:
I just had a message from a MM model that had asked to do a nude erotic shoot with me,
I replied yes, this is her reply 

hey Phillip
OMG I have to cancel my shoot with you as I just read your front page thing wow your as old as my grandpa ,
so it's feels really weird to be naked , I think you do beautiful pics

sorry hope you understand xxxxxxxxxxxx


, I sort of do under stand but dam now I feel really old LOL

does any one else think that maybe you can be become to old to shoot nudes,
my work is more erotic than just nude maybe she thinks I should not still be thinking like that ,

thoughts any one  I have also told her I just put it on the forum maybe she will come in and reply , I am not upset just make s me think

I guess she would have turned down a nude shoot with Helmut Newton, Irving Penn, Richard Avedon, ........

Ain't you, it's her.

Jun 10 12 07:39 pm Link

Photographer

Michael DBA Expressions

Posts: 3730

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

T-D-L wrote:
lol, sounds like she's too immature to be modeling.

+1

I thought when I read that: "No, but you certainly can be too childish."

Jun 10 12 07:43 pm Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

I dunno, I'll be 75 next month and I've never heard that one (although I'm sure that a few of the sillier ones have thought that).  If anything, I imagine that most of them think I'm old enough to be harmless and maybe even a little bit cute to be getting up and down and into all the crazy positions I have to get into to get some of my shots.

I promise you, it took longer for me to get up off the floor after this one than it did the model
http://www.redbubble.com/people/raysfin … 096-pin-up

Jun 10 12 07:44 pm Link

Photographer

MKPhoto

Posts: 5665

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

SPRINGHEEL wrote:
Hell, I'd shoot nudes with you

LMAO, +1

Jun 10 12 07:45 pm Link

Photographer

Legacys 7

Posts: 33899

San Francisco, California, US

IrisSwope wrote:

Except he is literally on top of her...

I don't know, I'd probably think twice about it too. I haven't looked at the OP's portfolio, so his work isn't a factor.

She'll be naked, she has reason to believe she could be laying in the floor with him on top of her.  Doesn't sound so great. Especially if she's new.

Okay. But here's the thing. She knows that the man shoots nudes. This could be a young photographer doing the same. Her getting creeped out over a guy that's old enough to be her grandfather sounds more a phobia or something else going on in the attic.

Jun 10 12 07:45 pm Link

Photographer

Legacys 7

Posts: 33899

San Francisco, California, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:

she list her age as  20 so I am 50 years older than her mmm well I guess I am an old guy now lol

Yeah, but her grandparents would possibly be around your age. Example, if her parents are 20 yr older, that would put them in their 40's and grandparents in their 60's. But who knows and who really cares. That's her lost opportunity.

Jun 10 12 07:48 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Legacys 7 wrote:
Okay. But here's the thing. She knows that the man shoots nudes. This could be a young photographer doing the same. Her getting creeped out over a guy that's old enough to be her grandfather sounds more a phobia or something else going on in the attic.

No, I totally agree, but I would really think that it was the photo, rather than the age that did it.
The photo showed his age, and him straddling the model. She knows he shoots nudes, but she didn't know him might be sitting on top of her.

She chose one excuse over another, imo.

I could be totally wrong.

His work is great (I just looked), she may never get another chance to work with someone that good, atleast no time soon. But it's possible the photo scared her....

Jun 10 12 07:49 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Brummitt

Posts: 40527

Clarkston, Michigan, US

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Jun 10 12 07:49 pm Link

Photographer

Legacys 7

Posts: 33899

San Francisco, California, US

Step Above Photography wrote:
This reminds me of a true story. Years ago (back in the early 80's) I was working north of Santa Barbara. I had just had dinner and was walking to my car which was quite some walk as I had decided to do some site seeing. Just ahead of me were 3 teenage girls walking and talking about this old guy. They went on and on about how old he was and how it turned them off. The more they talked it seemed the older this poor guy was. I was beginning to think that the poor guy was walking around with a walker, struggling to get anywhere. They kept going on and on about this old guy. Damn, he must have been really really old. Even older than Phillipe if you can believe that. Talk about old. I am almost at my car wondering how friggin old is this poor guy. I was really feeling sorry for him when one of the girls said "I would never date a guy as old as him. He must be at least 25.....

you know what? When a person keeps putting emphasis on things and pressing the issue in most cases they will do the opposite.

Jun 10 12 07:50 pm Link

Photographer

Legacys 7

Posts: 33899

San Francisco, California, US

IrisSwope wrote:
No, I totally agree, but I would really think that it was the photo, rather than the age that did it.
The photo showed his age, and him straddling the llama. She knows he shoots nudes, but she didn't know him might be sitting on top of her.

She chose one excuse over another, imo.

I could be totally wrong.

His work is great (I just looked), she may never get another chance to work with someone that good, atleast no time soon. But it's possible the photo scared her....

Yes. I got that part regarding the image. That's what I was replying to. She jumped to a morbid conclusion vs. the obvious; the man's doing his job.

Jun 10 12 07:52 pm Link

Photographer

RLA Photo

Posts: 222

Lake Elsinore, California, US

When I was in my mid 40's the 20 something daughter of a friend was complaining that she couldn't find any "good" guys to date.  I was single at the time and offered to take her out for a nice date.  She looked at me and stated"you are old enough to be my father.  My reply was"yeah, but I'm NOT"!  You may be old enough to be her Grandfather but you aren't!

She's a moron!  smile

Jun 10 12 07:55 pm Link

Model

Katz Pajamaz

Posts: 500

San Diego, California, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:
I just had a message from a MM model that had asked to do a nude erotic shoot with me,
I replied yes, this is her reply 

hey Phillip
OMG I have to cancel my shoot with you as I just read your front page thing wow your as old as my grandpa ,
so it's feels really weird to be naked , I think you do beautiful pics

sorry hope you understand xxxxxxxxxxxx


, I sort of do under stand but dam now I feel really old LOL

does any one else think that maybe you can be become to old to shoot nudes,
my work is more erotic than just nude maybe she thinks I should not still be thinking like that ,

thoughts any one  I have also told her I just put it on the forum maybe she will come in and reply , I am not upset just make s me think

I absolutely do not think you can be too old to shoot nudes or erotica for that matter... And I actually find it odd that your AGE would put her off from shooting with you! Holy missed opportunity Batman!!!! Yeesh!

Jun 10 12 07:56 pm Link

Photographer

MKPhoto

Posts: 5665

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

How many years do you have on Ken Marcus? Four? 

He is OK to shoot erotica wink

Jun 10 12 08:00 pm Link

Model

Katz Pajamaz

Posts: 500

San Diego, California, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:

now I am really happy Coco I am  now doing River Dance in my studio, its a good job nobody is watching ,LOL

*Standing Ovation!*

Jun 10 12 08:00 pm Link

Model

Katz Pajamaz

Posts: 500

San Diego, California, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
https://philipbloom.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/old-man-winking.jpg

Ready to get nekkid?

Speedily removes clothing!

Jun 10 12 08:02 pm Link

Model

Tatiana Kuzmina

Posts: 37

Orlando, Florida, US

I really think here was enough said about the models ignorance & stupidity. Your work is amazing! Nothing would stop me from working with you! smile
Ignore & forget that u ever spoken to her )))

Jun 10 12 08:02 pm Link

Photographer

SHF

Posts: 270

New York, New York, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:
I just had a message from a MM model that had asked to do a nude erotic shoot with me,
I replied yes, this is her reply 

hey Phillip
OMG I have to cancel my shoot with you as I just read your front page thing wow your as old as my grandpa ,
so it's feels really weird to be naked , I think you do beautiful pics

sorry hope you understand xxxxxxxxxxxx


, I sort of do under stand but dam now I feel really old LOL

does any one else think that maybe you can be become to old to shoot nudes,
my work is more erotic than just nude maybe she thinks I should not still be thinking like that ,

thoughts any one  I have also told her I just put it on the forum maybe she will come in and reply , I am not upset just make s me think

SHES A BLOODY MORON .. and really a FRIGGIN DINGBAT bec she lost the chance to work with you . as its rare ull work w/one of the "models" on here these days

You def have more class than I .. I would punch her in the teeth for you if I ran into her

LUB YA ME FAV DIRT FARMER ;-)

  Ps dont you DARE give her a second chance( I will spank you if you do ;-) .. that was such a rude inconsiderate comment.. Im sure if she said that, theres other negatives about her.. you got 35445 females beggin you to shoot . if youre gonna take from youre time.. at least give it to someone who appreciates you and your work... .. still dont get WHY youre even shooting for free these days..;-)

Jun 10 12 08:03 pm Link

Model

Katz Pajamaz

Posts: 500

San Diego, California, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:

wow I guess your right I need a walker with a camera bracket and a nurse to stop me getting to excited ,

dam what is my world coming to ok Flowers it is

Get the damn walker rigged up! I don't care how old you get, your work is too inspiring to stop if you can keep creating with a few adjustments in technique! :-)

Jun 10 12 08:05 pm Link

Photographer

C.C. Holdings

Posts: 914

Los Angeles, California, US

Phillip Ritchie  wrote:

no she has not,

but I am 100% sure she is reading this

(message read)  ?



A lot of times when girls do something silly they don't want to confront the situation. Maybe guys are the same way but I never get into those kind of interactions with men to tell.

Jun 10 12 08:29 pm Link

Model

Model MoRina

Posts: 6638

MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica

When I lived in south Florida, a photographer I worked with several times wanted to shoot with me and another female model together.  She declined the paid shoot because I was too old...when in reality, she and I weren't as far apart as she would like people to think.  I am just honest about my age and she isn't.

Later, she declined to shoot with him because he had "gray hair." 

I am still scratching my head over that one.  Nude modeling isn't dating.

Jun 10 12 09:34 pm Link

Model

ancien profil

Posts: 5

Acton, Ontario, Canada

In a way, the girl is right...she does't want to model nudes with an older guy because it makes her feel like she is modeling in front of your dad or grandpa.  But she should have done her research on the photographer before she said she could do the shoot.  Then she would have seen his age and probably would have bolted since she has that issue.

You are never too old to photograph, model or act.  There's always a place for you somewhere, even if it's in the background.  Besides, when you get to be a certain age you are a lot stronger.  with modeling, it's not about age, its about talent for the photographer. 

Her loss.

Jun 10 12 09:37 pm Link

Photographer

Dark Shadows

Posts: 2269

Miami, Florida, US

I guess you can try to put a positive spin on it by saying that your work was so exciting to her that she actually built you up in her mind to the point that she could not imagine you as anything less than a cocksure sex symbol of a man.

Jun 10 12 09:40 pm Link

Model

egyptmachine

Posts: 11365

El Paso, Texas, US

bullshit excuse, don't let it get to you! She's either nuts or couldn't find a better excuse for whatever her reason was.

Jun 10 12 09:43 pm Link

Model

Tilcia

Posts: 185

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Erin Holmes wrote:
Whatever discomfort I may feel at being nude in front of someone the same age as my grandpa would be dismissed in the pursuit of amazing images. What else matters?

This.

Jun 10 12 09:49 pm Link

Photographer

Magic Image Photography

Posts: 3606

Temple City, California, US

I have found so many models that ask me what I look like and I tell them Fat short and stupit and they cancel on me a few times i shoot with a few models that didnt care how i looked and told their friends that had canceled on me that I was lieing and didnt look like i had mentiolned. I belive the reason for asking this question is some think that if your fat and short and ugly you have no other thing than to shoot nakied woman.

I wonder if they feel the same way when they have to see their doctor and do they judge them by how they look or how good of a Docter they are.

Jun 10 12 09:56 pm Link

Model

Eleanor Rose

Posts: 2612

PASO ROBLES, California, US

*jaw drop*

I cannot even comprehend cancelling on you for any reason. I would consider an opportunity to shoot with you would as one of the highest compliments I could be paid as a model.

Jun 10 12 10:04 pm Link

Photographer

R A V E N D R I V E

Posts: 15867

New York, New York, US

Magic Image Photography wrote:
I have found so many llamas that ask me what I look like and I tell them Fat short and stupit and they cancel on me a few times i shoot with a few llamas that didnt care how i looked and told their friends that had canceled on me that I was lieing and didnt look like i had mentiolned. I belive the reason for asking this question is some think that if your fat and short and ugly you have no other thing than to shoot nakied woman.

I wonder if they feel the same way when they have to see their doctor and do they judge them by how they look or how good of a Docter they are.

thats an interesting way to look at it - it's completely opposite from what I had in mind

Jun 10 12 10:06 pm Link

Photographer

Alluring Exposures

Posts: 11400

Casa Grande, Arizona, US

I never heard of anything like that... I have never been told I'm too old to shoot nudes and have in fact driven to San Diego with 2 19/20 year old models to shoot nudes out there... and we spent the night in the same hotel room with no issues or mistrust after we shot the nudes... and then we shot some more nudes the next day.

Jun 10 12 10:08 pm Link