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When models bring ugly wardrobes on TF shoots
What can a photographer do? Jul 22 12 04:57 pm Link Be more specific about you want them to bring. Have your own wardrobe in stock. Ask for photos before hand. Make do. Shoot nudes. Jul 22 12 04:59 pm Link Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote: +1 on all that ^_^ Jul 22 12 04:59 pm Link Make it work - that's usually why I ask a model to bring anywhere from 5-9 outfits/pieces with them, so I can go through and choose the ones I like best! Otherwise, i'd say do something as creative as possible, and try to muster through and make it work if the wardrobe is *that* bad. Jul 22 12 05:00 pm Link Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote: This. Jul 22 12 05:04 pm Link love all the responses. there is also what i had someone do once...make last-minute outfits from scraps of fabric and once even a plastic garbage bag lol. can make for some interesting "high fashion" Jul 22 12 05:09 pm Link Why would you leave that to a model? Seriously I know not everyone has a full team to shoot with and finding a good stylist if you don't do a lot of commercial work is difficult. If that is the case style your own shoots. Decide on your concepts and ideas before the shoot and work with your MUA to get an idea on colors then source wardrobe. It's a TF* shoot so it's for your portfolio, no reason to waste time and effrot half assing it. Jul 22 12 05:11 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: There is a certain reality for new photographers with not a lot of choices. Jul 22 12 05:14 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: Mission Viejo doesn't have a Goodwill? Jul 22 12 05:16 pm Link I've done this before. xD Jul 22 12 05:17 pm Link Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote: Very true. I am working on the communication part. Jul 22 12 05:19 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: Sounds like you're just making excuses for yourself. One certainly doesn't need a full team and an infinite wardrobe available for an amazing image. Jul 22 12 05:19 pm Link I dont really trust most North American Models to bring good wardrobe to a shoot unless I see some evidence prior ( course i live in Lululemon Land ) with European and some ( read well off ) Asian Models its a different story ( Edit ) Given this my I tend to source out my own wardrobe for most shoots Jul 22 12 05:22 pm Link Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote: +1 Yes this, don't ever assume jsut because your model is a woman or man they know how to dress their gender like a pro Jul 22 12 05:24 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: Garry k wrote: Not an answer to his OP, actually, but good for you anyway. Jul 22 12 05:25 pm Link Garry k wrote: I thought all models had white shirts Jul 22 12 05:25 pm Link I have wardrobe on hand -- pieces of fabric work well and you could request certain items for your models to bring Jul 22 12 05:27 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: Pick tfp models that wear great clothes in their photos. Jul 22 12 05:27 pm Link Simple supply wardrobe ... Problem solved. I am just saying ... It is TF right If you are paying then you can be demanding IMO. Be easy, Alvin Plus if you supply wardrobe you won't have to worry about seeing her is the same outfit with another shooter Jul 22 12 05:29 pm Link Garry k wrote: chicchowmein wrote: BWAAAAHAAAHAAAAA Jul 22 12 05:30 pm Link chicchowmein wrote: that or their birthday suits Jul 22 12 05:33 pm Link Art of the nude wrote: Garry k wrote: BWAAAAHAAAHAAAAA Actually that is a good idea. Picasso had his white period. Jul 22 12 05:34 pm Link The more I shoot, the more I advocate (translation: insist on) planning a shoot in advance. While I can shoot a model who walks through the door with a rolling garment bag full of wardrobe (and I've done so many times), too often some prop or accessory that would complete the look isn't available – or I find that the best ideas come as I'm driving home after the shoot. I start with genre, then concept, then location, wardrobe, mood (which dictates lighting), props, and makeup and hair if they're out of the ordinary and key ingredients of the look. By the time we shoot, we've emailed back and forth several times, we've discussed the above questions, and we've exchanged photos (or links to photos) that illustrate the looks we're going for. I know what the model is bringing (and I’ve almost always seen photos of the wardrobe), other team members are on the same page, and we all know what we're shooting and in what order. On the other hand, if a model isn't willing to participate in planning, I probably don't need to shoot her anyway. “Winging it" probably wouldn't produce the results I want. Now I usually don't even set a date for the shoot until planning is well under way - unless I've worked with the model enough to know that she'll come through with both the planning and the shoot - or until I have a deposit for a paid shoot. Most of my trade work now is with models who would rather be published than paid – and are willing to sign a full release to facilitate it. If you’ve gone to the trouble to research markets and what sells to specific magazines, and you’re going for a very specific look, you don’t want to leave the details to chance. Jul 22 12 05:35 pm Link If you're gonna ask a model to bring wardrobe stick to basics: tshirts/tank tops, jeans/shorts, sundresses, blouses, etc. You can ask for more specific items, but it's unfair to expect much from a model because chances are, if it's cool she's already shot it with someone else. Whenever I ask a model to bring wardrobe, even if she has a specific item I think could be cool I'll still ask for casual/basic items to fall back on in case everything else falls apart. Jul 22 12 05:36 pm Link Atelier57 wrote: Providing wardrobe is a challenge if you're not working with mainstream agency types. Models come in a vast array of sizes and shapes. Jul 22 12 05:38 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: Garry and picasso were pretty tight I think Jul 22 12 05:39 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: White ( and Black ) never go out of style Jul 22 12 05:40 pm Link It should either be provided for the model, or you & the model need to discuss wardrobe with photographer having final approval. Bottom line is, its your responsibility. Jul 22 12 05:41 pm Link I am telling them anymore basic and monochromatic. Jul 22 12 05:42 pm Link Garry k wrote: don't forget the pearls Jul 22 12 05:42 pm Link chicchowmein wrote: seems that i did as i lost them somewheres along the way Jul 22 12 05:44 pm Link Garry k wrote: how tragic Jul 22 12 05:46 pm Link Ok here is reality. Third shoot of my life. I told the model to bring three outfits. 1. Graduation cap and gown 2. Some stupid steam punk costume 3. Some stupid Gogol costume. I was like wtf. After I gave her the files I deleted them from my chips. Jul 22 12 05:46 pm Link Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote: Spot on! Jul 22 12 05:48 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: Exactly why it's important. Also the models have nothing to do with styling. You style and you find/get/barrow the wardrobe and accessories. You want to show what you can do (and improve in the process) you will need to make great images. If you want to attract the best models to test with you then you need well thought out and styled images, it's what they expect. Jul 22 12 05:50 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: be more specific. I usually work off of a concept so the the wardrobe is integral to the finsihed product. If I am getting paid to shoot portraits or commercial comp cards I give them guidelines. Jul 22 12 05:51 pm Link Art of the nude wrote: Garry k wrote: BWAAAAHAAAHAAAAA Jul 22 12 05:52 pm Link Antediluvian Design wrote: "Maybe jeans and a few nice blouses to choose from... A long skirt and a pretty tank top, and maybe something business suit looking?" Jul 22 12 05:53 pm Link Dekilah wrote: +2 on all that ^^^^ Jul 22 12 05:59 pm Link Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote: yeah those three are just bad, but again just because the girl is a girl doesn't mean she can dress herself like a fierce fashionista. Some women are styling challenged, you need to be more specific and maybe even pay or get a wardrobe stylist TF. Jul 22 12 06:04 pm Link |