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Simire MUA

Posts: 91

London, England, United Kingdom

Sorry forgot to add:

Payment method varies depending on the specific contract/agreement with your employer. Some pay weekly or fortnightly and others on a monthly basis.

Oct 07 12 12:36 am Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

Simire MUA wrote:
Tax rate over her really depends on your basic income and can vary depending on this from nothing to 50%. Have a look at this for further info on how it works http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/basics.htm#1

London can be extremely expensive as with most cities i guess. From my personal point of view, apart from budgeting for rent, utility bills(water, electric, phone, council tax- which varies wildly depending on your location band, groceries) and the exhorbitant public transport and/ or petrol/diesel, you'll be very lucky to squeeze any savings from that. I am lucky enough to be paid 'London weighting' in addition to my basic pay. This takes into account the additional costs faced with living in London. Not all employers pay or care about this, but you could ask about this very diplomatocally and AFTER you have been offered the job. There are
very cheap places to stay in London but cheaper might not necessarily equate to safer. This is why i suggested applying outside London also. Safety is relative i know, and i suppose crime exists everywhere one goes to but realistically our great metropolis can be https://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.pngeven during the day in certain areas as observed by my German friend who recently relocated here and is living in Stockwell with her boyfriend to save money.
Having said that there are other cities with similar expensive rates in the uk, but having worked outside most of my life it just equates to less money or better facilities(accomodation
space, utility bills etc) for what you are paying.

I really would advice a lot of additional research to what you are currently doing. It is great to carry out a trial run......january right? Brrrrrr! Don't forget your wooly hat and socks during this time.
Sorry about the length of this, i was going to type some more but  i had better stop now
before i bore you silly.

yea i research everynight until 4 am. Im actually looking at salins now that are outside the limits of london. Just as long as im close to it. Seems like im hitting dead ends now. Still waiting for a reply to a certain salon.

Oct 08 12 04:29 am Link

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Kelly Ager MakeupArtist

Posts: 138

Liverpool, England, United Kingdom

Yeah I agree, don't just limit yourself to London. Britain isn't a very big place so its much easier than the US to travel around for jobs.  London is very expensive! I live in Liverpool, its around 2 hours on train to London, so not far at all. Good luck!

Oct 08 12 04:40 am Link

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Simire MUA

Posts: 91

London, England, United Kingdom

TiffanyDiane wrote:
yea i research everynight until 4 am. Im actually looking at salins now that are outside the limits of london. Just as long as im close to it. Seems like im hitting dead ends now. Still waiting for a reply to a certain salon.

Just hang in there. You seem to be going along the right path. How many applications are you sending out a day? Whatever the numbers are try to double it. Make sure an objective, preferably professional individual from the beauty industry or colleague who is not too close to you has scrutinised and critiqued your CV and cover letter. Apply OUTSIDE London including scotland, Ireland and Wales. London can be easily accessed from all these areas either by train or air. Very short journey time in comparison to Texas! Let alone the US of A ;-)

Just stick with it and continue the hard slog. I'm sure something will eventually crop up. Goodluck and keep your chin up.

Oct 08 12 08:55 am Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

Simire MUA wrote:

Just hang in there. You seem to be going along the right path. How many applications are you sending out a day? Whatever the numbers are try to double it. Make sure an objective, preferably professional individual from the beauty industry or colleague who is not too close to you has scrutinised and critiqued your CV and cover letter. Apply OUTSIDE London including scotland, Ireland and Wales. London can be easily accessed from all these areas either by train or air. Very short journey time in comparison to Texas! Let alone the US of A ;-)

Just stick with it and continue the hard slog. I'm sure something will eventually crop up. Goodluck and keep your chin up.

Im doing about 5 a night. Thats googling salins. In the past two nights ive slowly been going outside of london. Like now i dont actually live or work in dallas. Just by it. So i can do the same for london. I know i cant live IN london. Too exp. does the tube/train charge a flat rate per day? Or by stop or how? I dont want to get too far. About an hour radius is what im thinking. Im actually even saying now that i dont have to do hair. Just anything and i can do hair on the side.

Oct 08 12 04:55 pm Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

Also thank you for the posi feedback and help!!

Oct 08 12 04:56 pm Link

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Simire MUA

Posts: 91

London, England, United Kingdom

TiffanyDiane wrote:
Also thank you for the posi feedback and help!!

My pleasure,

Travelling on the tube/buses in London is cheaper via 'oyster cards' which are purchased for under £5 i think. It's been absolute ages since i last bought mine so cant remember the exact price of the card.....the point is once you've purchased the card, it is theoretically yours for life and all you need to do is top it up with money either on a 'pay as you go basis' or monthly basis. Once you swipe this card in the underground(£2.10) or on the buses(£1.10?), then the amount in the brackets is sucked out of the card per journey and not per swipe. The oyster card can also be used for limited areas outside London (usually if you pay per month) which is ideal for commuters on the outskirts of London.
****please note the prices quoted might not be accurate so do check on the tfl website below to confirm****

You can get more accurate and detailed info from here
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/

Oct 09 12 12:51 pm Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

One more question. Here in the states we (stylists) are governed by state board. Are you goverend by anyone there? I'm trying to see how to go about being legal to cut hair there if/when i receive a sponsor.

Oct 12 12 08:32 pm Link

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Heather J M

Posts: 719

London, England, United Kingdom

As far as I know, people want evidence of relevant training, then they will do an industry test which involves a cut and highlights in the salon, you usually have to find your own model. There is no similar body to your union system.

Oct 13 12 01:50 am Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

Heather J M wrote:
As far as I know, people want evidence of relevant training, then they will do an industry test which involves a cut and highlights in the salon, you usually have to find your own model. There is no similar body to your union system.

Thank ya maam!

Oct 13 12 04:22 pm Link

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Simire MUA

Posts: 91

London, England, United Kingdom

Agree with Heather. Legislation is pretty weak here and the main regulatory body (http://www.haircouncil.org.uk/index.html) are pretty toothless. You can also research Habia, VTCT, BABTAC and ABT beauty insurancefor further details.

Oct 14 12 11:08 am Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

Simire MUA wrote:
Agree with Heather. Legislation is pretty weak here and the main regulatory body (http://www.haircouncil.org.uk/index.html) are pretty toothless. You can also research Habia, VTCT, BABTAC and ABT beauty insurancefor further details.

toothless?

Oct 15 12 07:18 pm Link

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Lauren Reynolds Makeup

Posts: 282

London, England, United Kingdom

TiffanyDiane wrote:
toothless?

Powerless/weak smile

Oct 16 12 12:56 am Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

Lauren Reynolds MUA wrote:

Powerless/weak smile

Gotcha!

Oct 18 12 08:57 pm Link

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UK_Makeup_Artist

Posts: 896

Liverpool, England, United Kingdom

Just a warning that not only do we have an horrendous rate of unemployment at the moment our fuel costs are trough the roof, we have more people living in actual poverty than ever before and our government are quite far right and intolerant. Plus they are taking a really hard stance on immigration. A lot of UK residents are getting increasingly frustrated by the soft attitude and the pressures it puts on public services and employment.

I am really not sure why anyone would choose to live here over say NYC or Italy etc hmm

The hair/makeup/beauty industry here is massively over saturated too.

I don't want to seem like Captain Comedown I just want you to have a well informed view on living here. Plus our weather is shocking wink

Good luck in whatever path you choose though lovely!

Oct 21 12 09:15 pm Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

UK_Makeup_Artist wrote:
Just a warning that not only do we have an horrendous rate of unemployment at the moment our fuel costs are trough the roof, we have more people living in actual poverty than ever before and our government are quite far right and intolerant. Plus they are taking a really hard stance on immigration. A lot of UK residents are getting increasingly frustrated by the soft attitude and the pressures it puts on public services and employment.

I am really not sure why anyone would choose to live here over say NYC or Italy etc hmm

The hair/makeup/beauty industry here is massively over saturated too.

I don't want to seem like Captain Comedown I just want you to have a well informed view on living here. Plus our weather is shocking wink

Good luck in whatever path you choose though lovely!

From all the late nights of research Ive been doing, I'm informed. Weather isnt a big issure. I'd prefer your weather of being hot and sticky sweaty nasty like I am in TX. I wont be driving there so that isnt an issue either. I'm choosing to live there because it's always been my dream. Im not the person to keep dreaming, I make my dreams a reality. Like I said in my previous post, I already have an interview and a possile other interview. Thank you for your reply though.

Oct 24 12 09:54 pm Link

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UK_Makeup_Artist

Posts: 896

Liverpool, England, United Kingdom

I think you misread my tone! I wasnt being snippy and the crack about the weather was a joke tongue

As I said (and genuinely meant) good luck! smile

Dec 03 12 05:56 pm Link

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House of Westenra

Posts: 41

Louisville, Kentucky, US

How is the process going on?

Yes, a friend of mine is also attempting to obtain some kind of work Visa in the UK (she has a b/f there), and she is struggling too and she has a Masters Degree.

I have heard it is extremely difficult to immigrate to the UK, especially for employment.  Not only do you have to provide a skill in need, but prove that you can do it better than the other applicants from the nation applying for that position. 

How is it when one goes from being a citizen of a British Commonwealth (ex. Australia, New Zealand, South Africa) to the UK?

Dec 04 12 03:40 pm Link

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Heather J M

Posts: 719

London, England, United Kingdom

House of Westenra wrote:
How is it when one goes from being a citizen of a British Commonwealth (ex. Australia, New Zealand, South Africa) to the UK?

I believe it's exactly the same. It's straightforward for EU citizens to come here to work and live, but apart from that it's very difficult.

Dec 05 12 02:45 pm Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

House of Westenra wrote:
How is the process going on?

Yes, a friend of mine is also attempting to obtain some kind of work Visa in the UK (she has a b/f there), and she is struggling too and she has a Masters Degree.

I have heard it is extremely difficult to immigrate to the UK, especially for employment.  Not only do you have to provide a skill in need, but prove that you can do it better than the other applicants from the nation applying for that position. 

How is it when one goes from being a citizen of a British Commonwealth (ex. Australia, New Zealand, South Africa) to the UK?

I went over last week and got the job, my boss there is filling out my sponosorship for my visa. Im getting an immigration lawyer and should be there about April of this year.

You dont HAVE to provide a skill in need. There are different teirs to the scheme ( I HATE that word). Im going under tier 2 migrant worker. All the business has to do is show that theyve tried to hire from the UK. If its a small business they can get around that. Just have to find a job that is willing to pay the sponsorship fee. Of course this fee will be deducted from your wages is a given, but its a business deal afterall.

Jan 17 13 05:15 am Link

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TiffanyDiane

Posts: 25

Dallas, Texas, US

Heather J M wrote:

I believe it's exactly the same. It's straightforward for EU citizens to come here to work and live, but apart from that it's very difficult.

Its not THAT difficult! The hardest part is finding a job that will sponsor you. Once you have that its all easy peasy from there. Just make sure getting an immigration lawyer is in the budget. Theyre usually 1500-2000 USD. The website makes it seem harder than what it is. Just like the US does.

Jan 17 13 05:17 am Link

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Heather J M

Posts: 719

London, England, United Kingdom

TiffanyDiane wrote:

Its not THAT difficult! The hardest part is finding a job that will sponsor you. Once you have that its all easy peasy from there. Just make sure getting an immigration lawyer is in the budget. Theyre usually 1500-2000 USD. The website makes it seem harder than what it is. Just like the US does.

You've done very well to get the sponsorship! That's the difficult part, and trust me, for some people its tantamount to impossible! Well done you though!

Jan 17 13 01:12 pm Link

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Section 008

Posts: 98

Chicago, Illinois, US

Hugh Alison wrote:

Bland Food?

Starbucks?
KFC?
Burger King?
MacDonalds?
Beef raised knee deep in shit and full of hormones and antibiotics, contaminated by the occasional poor Mexican that loses a body part in the slaughterhouse...

"culture" = "yoghurt"

Oh sorry, I was thinking of somewhere else.


Bland enough for you?

funny!!!!

Jan 17 13 01:24 pm Link

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House of Westenra

Posts: 41

Louisville, Kentucky, US

TiffanyDiane wrote:

I went over last week and got the job, my boss there is filling out my sponosorship for my visa. Im getting an immigration lawyer and should be there about April of this year.

Congratulations!  Excellent to hear that.  Yes, nothing like a bit of tenacity to get you through to the end.  So where did you end up getting a job?  Best of luck with everything! smile

Jan 17 13 05:18 pm Link