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Tricia Oaks

Posts: 106

Thousand Oaks, California, US

looking to add a good quality sound to my short video clips.   anyone have experience with mic set ups for shooting with the 60D?

i know there are alot of expensive options but this thread is specifically asking about mics under $100.

looking at them at Samy's now...

https://www.samys.com/c/Microphones/sor … 2/247.html

Oct 08 12 11:30 am Link

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Jay Leavitt

Posts: 6745

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

On that list, I've used this:

https://www.samys.com/p/Microphones/ATR … 098FB2F0F5

And its quite good as far as direct recording goes, and pretty small and unobtrusive.

Oct 08 12 11:44 am Link

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Tricia Oaks

Posts: 106

Thousand Oaks, California, US

btw:  does the 60D have XLR inputs?  or 3.5 mini jack?

Oct 08 12 10:49 pm Link

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Jay Leavitt

Posts: 6745

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Tricia Oaks wrote:
btw:  does the 60D have XLR inputs?  or 3.5 mini jack?

3.5

XLR is fantastic. Using a recorder (zoom h4n / tascam dr100) with xlr mics is great... Though involves more work in post syncing audio and video

Oct 08 12 10:51 pm Link

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Leonard Gee Photography

Posts: 18096

Sacramento, California, US

Tricia Oaks wrote:
looking to add a good quality sound to my short video clips.   anyone have experience with mic set ups for shooting with the 60D?

i know there are alot of expensive options but this thread is specifically asking about mics under $100.

Acceptable. Maybe. Good? Not.

Long unbalanced two wire? I don't think so. Double system is much better.

Oct 08 12 11:03 pm Link

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Tricia Oaks

Posts: 106

Thousand Oaks, California, US

so, i've heard good about the Zoom H1 but want to avoid the extra post-production hassle.  i've narrowed it to these two...

http://www.amazon.com/Azden-High-perfor … B000GE403I

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-PR … +canon+60d

which one should i get?   

or is the Zoom H1 so superior in quality that i should just do the extra editing work and get it?

Oct 08 12 11:58 pm Link

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Tricia Oaks

Posts: 106

Thousand Oaks, California, US

ended up just ordering this one...

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT … 03_03_t_lh

i chose that based on ... Frequency Response: 70 - 18,000 Hz  - seems like a wider range than the other one.

Oct 09 12 01:01 am Link

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Brian Ziff

Posts: 4105

Los Angeles, California, US

Downloading the Magic Lantern firmware will give you added audio control in-camera as well.

Oct 09 12 01:42 am Link

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Dion Photography

Posts: 57

Englewood, Florida, US

http://www.amazon.com/Rode-VideoMic-Pis … =rodes+mic

I use this one on my 7D when I do video work , Works fantastic inside and decent outside.
Its directional so it picks up 70% in front of whatever its pointed at and has a hi pass on it as well. Invest in Audio its the single best thing you can do for any video work...
If you need any advice please feel free to Message me. I have an H1 from zoom as well , but its not the same...

Oct 09 12 08:44 pm Link

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Tricia Oaks

Posts: 106

Thousand Oaks, California, US

This is probably a dumb question but where do i turn off/on the on-camera auto flash?

Oct 21 12 05:47 am Link

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MN camera

Posts: 1862

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

The problem with DSLR audio is that it's always going to be from the camera vantage point unless you're working with (a) wireless, or (b) a sound op with a boom.  Once you're more than a few feet away from the subject you'll hear as much room noise as you will sound, and more often than not AGC will boost that in quiet stretches, producing an unpleasant "breathing" quality to your sound.

Even a very high quality microphone (I do have a Sennheiser 416 on a boom) will not produce good sound if you're too far away.  And a directional mic on the camera will also pick up audio from behind your subject.  This can be a real killer outdoors.

I'd also suggest investing in a decent pair of headphones.  By "decent" I mean significantly above MP3 player earbud quality.

Oct 21 12 08:27 am Link

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Loki Studio

Posts: 3523

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

Tricia Oaks wrote:
This is probably a dumb question but where do i turn off/on the on-camera auto flash?

There is no flash in video mode.  Flash is automatic in Green Button/Full Auto and P program.  Using M/Av/Tv turns off the automatic flash.

Oct 21 12 08:40 am Link

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Sungoddess Studios

Posts: 5191

Keyport, New Jersey, US

I am a recording engineer. there are not many mikes that get good sound for $100 and less. My recommendation is a stereo shotgun, or stereo hyper cardioid microphone that has a preamp inside it (battery operated) 20-20k hertz with the flattest tone curve possible with the lowest signal to noise ratio.

www.SungoddessStudios.com
and by the way I recorded the music on this site.

Oct 21 12 08:51 am Link

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Sungoddess Studios

Posts: 5191

Keyport, New Jersey, US

http://www.amazon.com/Rode-VideoMic-Fuz … pd_cp_MI_1

if you do go with the Rodes get this one with the Wind Jammer. A $50 value and made in USA by authentic California Hippies.

Oct 21 12 09:03 am Link

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Kaouthia

Posts: 3153

Wishaw, Scotland, United Kingdom

-JAY- wrote:
XLR is fantastic. Using a recorder (zoom h4n / tascam dr100) with xlr mics is great... Though involves more work in post syncing audio and video

Love my DR-100.  Just wish they had an external charger for the LiIon battery so I didn't have to do it inside the unit itself.  Dual battery slots is nice, but you only get about 10-15 minutes on a pair of AA batteries with 2 mics pulling phantom power.

Oct 21 12 09:09 am Link

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Tricia Oaks

Posts: 106

Thousand Oaks, California, US

Loki Studio wrote:

There is no flash in video mode.  Flash is automatic in Green Button/Full Auto and P program.  Using M/Av/Tv turns off the automatic flash.

using M/Av/Tv mode(s) changes other things, though... right?   i'll get the auto-flash off but won't some other feature turn itself on when i do this?

Oct 24 12 08:48 am Link

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ShutterSpeedPhotography

Posts: 186

Tempe, Arizona, US

RULE OF THUMB

No DSLRS have good recording sound or audio metering capabilities with an external mic

You'll always get great sound by recording separate audio on something such as a Zoom H2 mic any syncing it in post

Oct 24 12 08:50 am Link

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nwprophoto

Posts: 15005

Tonasket, Washington, US

Matthew Braney wrote:
RULE OF THUMB


You'll always get great sound by recording separate audio on something such as a Zoom H2 mic any syncing it in post

Rule number 2 the Zoom is the worst of the small recorders out there.
You can do much better for the same money.

Oct 24 12 01:46 pm Link

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yipDog Studios

Posts: 159

Mesa, Arizona, US

I shoot video for my primary business. I used to use the H4n until it bit me in the arse and ate it's batteries in about 10 min. Fresh batteries!

If you go that route (dual system), get plural eyes for your NLE. Works perfectly and I've had it sync a 4 hour shoot with no issues.

I have switched to using a Beachtek unit which has XLR in, proper level feed to the camera, meters, compressor/limiter and a headphone out with a return feed from the camera. I use this with a 5D mk3 and it sounds wonderful. Makes life SO much easier. a single 9V lasts an entire day of shooting with phantom power.
Juiced Link makes similar units.

As for mics, Check out Studio Projects. Several options reasonably priced. I have a pair of small condensers that came with interchangeable heads that was very inexpensive. Not as nice as my Rode NTG3 but certainly useable.

Oct 25 12 07:31 am Link