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Jordan Edwards Photo
Posts: 57
Washington, District of Columbia, US


Hi everyone,

I'm in the market for a camcorder, and my budget is $2,000. Each of the four major brands have something at this price. I've eliminated the Canon XA10 because it looks too home movie-ish to me, and the JVC only shoots at the 35mm equivalent of 40mm at its widest focal length. So that leaves the Panasonic AC90 and Sony NX30. Has anyone used either or both of these cameras? If so, what is your impression?

I realize that most people shoot video with DSLRs, but I'm specifically looking for a camcorder to use for documentary and behind the scenes work.

Thanks,

Jordan
Dec 02 12 05:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
You Can Call Me Pierre
Posts: 741
Montreal, Quebec, Canada


A used Panasonic AG-AF100.
Dec 02 12 05:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jordan Edwards Photo
Posts: 57
Washington, District of Columbia, US


The quality on the AF100 is amazing, but it doesn't have the zoom and autofocus capabilities of a true camcorder. Also, even used they are at least $2,500.
Dec 02 12 05:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Armando D Photography
Posts: 562
Houston, Texas, US


sony
http://vimeo.com/54610813


panasoic
http://vimeo.com/54394274
http://vimeo.com/54200834

think the sony (top link) looks better than the panasonic.

yeah noticed a lot of moire , but any camera is gonna have that I have the xf100, but i haven't done too much video as of yet, and i'm having a hard time finding any quality ones smile its gotta be phillip bloom good or no better for me lol smile uhg!

but my vote goes to the sony.
Dec 02 12 07:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DennisRoliffPhotography
Posts: 1,928
Akron, Ohio, US


Jordan Edwards Photo wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm in the market for a camcorder, and my budget is $2,000. Each of the four major brands have something at this price. I've eliminated the Canon XA10 because it looks too home movie-ish to me, and the JVC only shoots at the 35mm equivalent of 40mm at its widest focal length. So that leaves the Panasonic AC90 and Sony NX30. Has anyone used either or both of these cameras? If so, what is your impression?

I realize that most people shoot video with DSLRs, but I'm specifically looking for a camcorder to use for documentary and behind the scenes work.

Thanks,

Jordan

Painting with a mighty broad brush there aren't you? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/rolleyes.gif

Spend a few dollars more and get the 1/3" chip Panasonic AG-HMC150. Also, you might be well served to ask about in the forums on dvxuser.com

Best of luck.

Dec 02 12 08:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
C and J Photography
Posts: 1,986
Hauula, Hawaii, US


The panasonic is not producing better video with this than they produce with their $400 HC-V700. Are you really needing the camera look and feel that much? I can see this if you accept the fact that you are buying a $400 camera in a $1,500 dog and pony show costume. I would even buy ther expensive camera if it was justified by customer awe. Just saying the image quality you get from the $400 camera is as good as it gets for under $5,000 IMO.

3 @ 1/4.7" 2 mp sensors are not superior to 1 @ 1/2.33" 8 mp sensor running as a 2 mp sensor after bayer interpolation in my book.

Edit: If you are willing to buy the Panasonic camcorder you first asked about do step up an extra $500 and get the one mentioned in the above post instead.
Dec 02 12 09:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Jewett
Posts: 2,434
al-Marsā, Tunis, Tunisia


C and J Photography wrote:
The panasonic is not producing better video with this than they produce with their $400 HC-V700. Are you really needing the camera look and feel that much? I can see this if you accept the fact that you are buying a $400 camera in a $1,500 dog and pony show costume. I would even buy ther expensive camera if it was justified by customer awe. Just saying the image quality you get from the $400 camera is as good as it gets for under $5,000 IMO.

3 @ 1/4.7" 2 mp sensors are not superior to 1 @ 1/2.33" 8 mp sensor running as a 2 mp sensor after bayer interpolation in my book.

Edit: If you are willing to buy the Panasonic camcorder you first asked about do step up an extra $500 and get the one mentioned in the above post instead.

+1

Dec 02 12 11:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Imageri by Tim Davis
Posts: 1,394
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Jordan Edwards Photo wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm in the market for a camcorder, and my budget is $2,000. Each of the four major brands have something at this price. I've eliminated the Canon XA10 because it looks too home movie-ish to me, and the JVC only shoots at the 35mm equivalent of 40mm at its widest focal length. So that leaves the Panasonic AC90 and Sony NX30. Has anyone used either or both of these cameras? If so, what is your impression?

I realize that most people shoot video with DSLRs, but I'm specifically looking for a camcorder to use for documentary and behind the scenes work.

Thanks,

Jordan

You disqualified the Canon because of it's appearance? Really?

Dec 02 12 11:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
C and J Photography
Posts: 1,986
Hauula, Hawaii, US


$400 camera:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JRInOcaXrI

This camera shoots 1080p and the posted video is only 720p if you select that. The default video is coarser so do select 720p It gets the point across. Interesting macro shots at the end. Skip the middle 3 minutes.
Dec 03 12 01:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
fullmetalphotographer
Posts: 2,732
Fresno, California, US


Jordan Edwards Photo wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm in the market for a camcorder, and my budget is $2,000. Each of the four major brands have something at this price. I've eliminated the Canon XA10 because it looks too home movie-ish to me, and the JVC only shoots at the 35mm equivalent of 40mm at its widest focal length. So that leaves the Panasonic AC90 and Sony NX30. Has anyone used either or both of these cameras? If so, what is your impression?

I realize that most people shoot video with DSLRs, but I'm specifically looking for a camcorder to use for documentary and behind the scenes work.

Thanks,

Jordan

What I shoot is AG-HPX300. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/7820526546_456ebf0780_n.jpg
AG-HPX300_slant619 by FullMetalPhotographer, on Flickr

Used it will run between $3000-6000 depending on the setup.

For the price range you are looking at my guess is you might find a used Panasonic AG-AC130A AVCCAM HD Handheld Camcorder
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 … dheld.html

The big issue with Panasonic is the P2 cards which are very expensive. The card reader runs about $400.

Dec 03 12 02:55 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yen Studios
Posts: 775
Memphis, Tennessee, US


I know you didn't like the Cano xa 10, but it works really well and I am selling mine.  Very little use
Dec 03 12 07:07 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kawika Photography
Posts: 110
San Diego, California, US


Imageri by Tim Davis wrote:
You disqualified the Canon because of it's appearance? Really?

Agreed. I have the XA10 and there's nothing home movie-ish about it, maybe bad editors but a little time spent in a good NLE avoids that. The most people use a DSLR comment is pretty much wrong. Two different tools completely. Use the DSLR if you're a control freak that likes to manual focus on the go. Use a camcorder because you'd like to spend a little less time thinking about all the technical details. DOF gets clobbered but that's a price you pay for using an internal lens. GL

Dec 03 12 08:54 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
rfordphotos
Posts: 4,628
Antioch, California, US


sony vg20?
Dec 03 12 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jhono Bashian
Posts: 2,432
Cleveland, Ohio, US


rfordphotos wrote:
sony vg20?

the NEX VG 20 has my vote too

Dec 03 12 01:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Joseph Peffer
Posts: 280
Miami, Florida, US


Sonys takes video, from everyone, in any prosumer market...Next spring there going for stills. Could be interesting.
Dec 03 12 10:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Wild Image Media
Posts: 173
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia


C and J Photography wrote:
The panasonic is not producing better video with this than they produce with their $400 HC-V700. Are you really needing the camera look and feel that much? I can see this if you accept the fact that you are buying a $400 camera in a $1,500 dog and pony show costume. I would even buy ther expensive camera if it was justified by customer awe. Just saying the image quality you get from the $400 camera is as good as it gets for under $5,000 IMO.

3 @ 1/4.7" 2 mp sensors are not superior to 1 @ 1/2.33" 8 mp sensor running as a 2 mp sensor after bayer interpolation in my book.

Edit: If you are willing to buy the Panasonic camcorder you first asked about do step up an extra $500 and get the one mentioned in the above post instead.

+1

Dec 04 12 02:24 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MN camera
Posts: 1,860
Saint Paul, Minnesota, US


C and J Photography wrote:
The panasonic is not producing better video with this than they produce with their $400 HC-V700. Are you really needing the camera look and feel that much? I can see this if you accept the fact that you are buying a $400 camera in a $1,500 dog and pony show costume. I would even buy ther expensive camera if it was justified by customer awe. Just saying the image quality you get from the $400 camera is as good as it gets for under $5,000 IMO.

3 @ 1/4.7" 2 mp sensors are not superior to 1 @ 1/2.33" 8 mp sensor running as a 2 mp sensor after bayer interpolation in my book.

Edit: If you are willing to buy the Panasonic camcorder you first asked about do step up an extra $500 and get the one mentioned in the above post instead.

DSLR video is notorious for aliasing due to the line removal involved in making your glorious 1/2.33" 8 Mp sensor into a 2 MP sensor.  And there has always been a reason for three-chip cameras being superior in color rendition terms.  And some of us have heard the term "jello-cam" before. 

I'm not even going to get into the pain-in-the-ass factor of DSLR audio.

Dec 04 12 06:43 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Crazy Old Guy
Posts: 291
Honolulu, Hawaii, US


MN camera wrote:
DSLR video is notorious for aliasing due to the line removal involved in making your glorious 1/2.33" 8 Mp sensor into a 2 MP sensor.  And there has always been a reason for three-chip cameras being superior in color rendition terms.  And some of us have heard the term "jello-cam" before. 

I'm not even going to get into the pain-in-the-ass factor of DSLR audio.

The V700 is a very highly regarded VIDEO CAMERA...
3 chip systems are fast becoming obsolete. The benefit was bit rate from 3 sources and technology has overcome that.

Dec 05 12 01:40 am  Link  Quote 
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