T B O L
Posts: 1,952
Canterbury, England, United Kingdom
OK - what does it take for a photographer to get the best out of you as a model? I guess some approaches/styles/mannerisms work better than others. What fires you up? Is it the preparation or the doing or both? Spontaneous or planned?
Sorry, more than one question but they're kind of related.
T B O L wrote: OK - what does it take for a photographer to get the best out of you as a model? I guess some approaches/styles/mannerisms work better than others. What fires you up? Is it the preparation or the doing or both? Spontaneous or planned?
Sorry, more than one question but they're kind of related.
Having a port like for instance this guy: http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=386700 So you have nothing but my utter admiration and trust in your vision.
Combine that with passion for the craft and respect for models like this guy.
That usually gets the best out of me as a model .
Spontaneous works best, though I like planned better.
What fires me up... Doesn't have much to do with modeling. Unless there's a translation-problem .
What was your main inspiration to model for nudes? Love for the style, compensation, appreciation of the work by others?
And what influenced your decision to "pretty much retire" from modelling, according to your profile? I find it interesting that someone your age would even consider slowing down or stopping, especially since I know of many others who didn't really start until they were quite a bit older including myself.
How do you find photographers to work with without it tearing you down? I constantly bump against photographers who're all 'yes, we should totally shoot!' but when it comes down to planning a date for a already planned out concept, they no longer answer to anything.
There is a lot of very creative images in your portfolio, beautifull styling, interesting make-up, funny mood.
How much is up to you and how much to the photographers? And how do you melt your ideas?
I need to increase my range of expressions... And I want them to look genuine. What do you think about to switch between emotions, or to show such direct, powerful feelings with your face?
MatureModelMM wrote: What was your main inspiration to model for nudes? Love for the style, compensation, appreciation of the work by others?
And what influenced your decision to "pretty much retire" from modelling, according to your profile? I find it interesting that someone your age would even consider slowing down or stopping, especially since I know of many others who didn't really start until they were quite a bit older including myself.
Main inspiration... It kind of just happened. I'm basically cut out to do it; fashion looks horrible on my frame, I didn't see nudes as something "shameful" like many beginner-models do and was drawn to the style of really well done artistic/fashiony nudes very soon. It's also the genre in which I can offer the most to a photographer and can therefore work with really awesome talented people.
My retirement has to do with reasons outside of modeling - I still love it; it's just that my priorities have shifted. Also that I basically have no time for it now I'm going to management school (will graduate in July ).
Dan K Photography wrote: Why did you change your name? How did you pick this one?
I'm not that much of an impulsive person yet I changed my name in an impulse. Also maybe because the intensity of being able to shoot has changed; I feel like I'm in a different phase right now. Could have also picked Mini 2.0, but that didn't sound so catchy. How I picked this one was really trivial, picked a word that I heard in a song that was playing on the radio - and the name was still available. (don't judge )
LizaK wrote: How do you find photographers to work with without it tearing you down? I constantly bump against photographers who're all 'yes, we should totally shoot!' but when it comes down to planning a date for a already planned out concept, they no longer answer to anything.
For trade shoots, it starts with selecting photographers who I admire and can write a really sincere and motivated message to. I also already think about what I can offer them, what could interest them in a collaboration. Why would I expect them to go all out when I'm the one initiating and asking? So basically: know what you want, know what you can do, be realistic in who you can offer what, and be sincere without being too pushy. This prooves to be a quit succesful strategy for me, but of course you can't control how others will react or feel about something - and that's alright too. Accepting that will make it feel less like a 'struggle'.
_eMMe_ wrote: There is a lot of very creative images in your portfolio, beautifull styling, interesting make-up, funny mood.
How much is up to you and how much to the photographers? And how do you melt your ideas?
Thank you Emme ! Most of my stuff I had a pretty good amount of input in, I often do styling and make-up myself. Also, the majority of shots are either based on moodboard I drew up or are a collaborative effort because of improvisation on set. The most important thing (for trade) for me has proven to be: only picking photographers who's vision I trust completely. That way I'm not worrying or doubting and can put all effort and trust in. This for me delivers the best images.
Michael Pandolfo wrote: Is Belgian chocolate really that much better?
I'm allergic to chocolate so I'm probably not the best person to judge ^^.
The reputation of most Belgian brands is certainly quite high, I'd guess that accounts for something? Besides good marketing.
I'm guessing you deleted the first one. The image behind the second link is beautiful . Doesn't seem to have much 'depth' (don't know, don't know too much about technical stuff) but maybe that fits the concept nicely. It's a pretty atmosphere with a pretty colorpallet. I do wish the expression and just the general bodylanguage was a little more exagerated and 'yearning' (translation?)
MickCetera wrote: I need to increase my range of expressions... And I want them to look genuine. What do you think about to switch between emotions, or to show such direct, powerful feelings with your face?
It starts with technique: to know which muscles have which effect on your face, which angles are best. best way to find this out is observation in the mirror - then practicing without being able to see (make pictures yourself and compare)
then when you have this down, you can put acting techniques in, and eventually when you become really good, you can put emotion in.
I'm guessing you deleted the first one. The image behind the second link is beautiful . Doesn't seem to have much 'depth' (don't know, don't know too much about technical stuff) but maybe that fits the concept nicely. It's a pretty atmosphere with a pretty colorpallet. I do wish the expression and just the general bodylanguage was a little more exagerated and 'yearning' (translation?)
I have a killer concept and I want someone like you to be my muse. However, I'm still in the starting out phase so I don't have the port to prove I can pull it off even though I know I can. What's the best way to approach someone like you in order to have the highest chance of landing you?
Zombie Eye Photography wrote: I have a killer concept and I want someone like you to be my muse. However, I'm still in the starting out phase so I don't have the port to prove I can pull it off even though I know I can. What's the best way to approach someone like you in order to have the highest chance of landing you?
thank you for the compliment !
Offering to pay rates will work for most experienced models.
If you want the model to reduce her rates or even trade... I guess you'd have to have a good pitch. A (short) sincere and personal message is a good start, explaining the intent of the shoot and why you think that particular model would be the ideal match. I'd also appreciate knowing beforehand what and how much time etc you expect me to invest. Offering to help with transport/meal or other things to make my life easier might help as well. I once had a photographer also include test-shots he made with another model to show me what he had in mind and to convince me of the results (which worked). Hope that helps ?
you manage pretty consistently to use your eyes very convincingly - to avoid the soft detached look even in moody shots. Do you have a technique, or is it a function of really being engaged and "in the moment"?
This is very difficult to teach (beyond the bit of looking *through* the lens not at it), if one does not already "have" it...
you manage pretty consistently to use your eyes very convincingly - to avoid the soft detached look even in moody shots. Do you have a technique, or is it a function of really being engaged and "in the moment"?
This is very difficult to teach (beyond the bit of looking *through* the lens not at it), if one does not already "have" it...
love that you notice that, thank you !
My technique behind it is pulling the ears back ("smizing") and bringing your eyes 'front', focusing IN the lense (as opposed to normally right next or above) while being aware of not crossing the eyes. If you're doing it really intensely, it might even feel like the irises are vibrating very fast. That's when it'll usually look most intense. Quite important to have a very neutral mouth and no tension in the chin for it to have maximum effect. Bringing chin down to look from 'under the eyebrows' is easiest to get started.
My technique behind it is pulling the ears back ("smizing") and bringing your eyes 'front', focusing IN the lense (as opposed to normally right next or above) while being aware of not crossing the eyes. If you're doing it really intensely, it might even feel like the irises are vibrating very fast. That's when it'll usually look most intense. Quite important to have a very neutral mouth and no tension in the chin for it to have maximum effect. Bringing chin down to look from 'under the eyebrows' is easiest to get started.
bitteschön - and they think that modeling is not "work"
LA StarShooter
Posts: 1,035
Beverly Hills, California, US
What concepts or styles of shoots have you yet to do but have dreamed of doing? What shots of llamas on mm or elsewhere have you deeply admired but yet to have achieved.
LA StarShooter wrote: What concepts or styles of shoots have you yet to do but have dreamed of doing? What shots of models on mm or elsewhere have you deeply admired but yet to have achieved.
Anything that I have listed here basically. I have a list of favorite famous photographers (which is enormous and I'm going to spare you). Really I still have to shoot something I am 100% satisfied with; I'm my own worst critic and always see failures and flaws in what I do. Maybe that's what makes retiring so difficult, the drive to at least get it once totally right. Oh well .
LizaK wrote: Can I ask another question? What do you think of my new snowy pictures?
Honestly?
Technically they're not good (I know, the white reflecting snow mass + white styling on top is difficult to work with). I applaud you on trying and being brave to do a probably cold uncomfortable shoot. Unfortunately, they don't do anything for me. No editorial quality, sloppy styling that makes you a square so few interesting lines in it and as a viewer I don't get much connection with you. Sorry Liza, better next time . They're not bad, but they're not exciting to me either.
2) is the real reason you are retired because you drank a fluid that caused you to shrink down to 1'1? Pro-tip if you see a fluid that has a sign saying to drink it. Don't.
Though I think you should reconsider. A small model as yourself would be amazingly versatile. Imagine the cost savings for sets. I will have to get some new macro lenses but I can handle that.
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