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Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Experimenting with something a little different to what I'm used to here...

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130104/20/50e7b10802f2e_m.jpg

Give me your opinion on the good, the bad and the ugly and I'll be happy to return the favor on one of your own nominated images posted below.

Jan 04 13 09:05 pm Link

Photographer

LA StarShooter

Posts: 2731

Los Angeles, California, US

Rik Image wrote:
Experimenting with something a little different to what I'm used to here...

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130104/20/50e7b10802f2e_m.jpg

Give me your opinion on the good, the bad and the ugly and I'll be happy to return the favor on one of your own nominated images posted below.

I don't post in forums when it comes to images. I left a comment on the image so it would have some company, a comment to talk to.

I really like the photo. It rocks. That kind of shot is very popular out in L.A. Maybe you should move.

Jan 04 13 09:10 pm Link

Photographer

Dan K Photography

Posts: 5581

STATEN ISLAND, New York, US

Rik Image wrote:
Experimenting with something a little different to what I'm used to here...


Give me your opinion on the good, the bad and the ugly and I'll be happy to return the favor on one of your own nominated images posted below.

I don't like that the side of her stomach looks wet and the rest of her looks dry. I would prefer a bit more contrast for my taste but overall I like it.

Jan 04 13 09:12 pm Link

Model

Lanna_

Posts: 831

Seattle, Washington, US

I like it! (Dang it Rik - take a trip to my side of the pond so we can shoot!)

I could go for it being a little less hazy (not sure if that's the correct term), but otherwise I'd be pleased as punch to have something like that in my portfolio.

I find her lips to be distracting.  There's a little dark part in the center.  Are her lips open just a little bit?  Or is that a purposeful makeup thing?  Might go for a shot where the lips are more open or fully closed, but that's just me looking at it as a model.

Jan 04 13 09:16 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

LA StarShooter wrote:

I don't post in forums when it comes to images. I left a comment on the image so it would have some company, a comment to talk to.

I really like the photo. It rocks. That kind of shot is very popular out in L.A. Maybe you should move.

Thank you LA Star Shooter, that is kind of you to do smile
Likewise I've commented on my choice in your portfolio... not bad for someone who's only been shooting models for less than a year.
Great work mate.

Jan 04 13 11:08 pm Link

Photographer

P R E S T O N

Posts: 2602

Birmingham, England, United Kingdom

The reds and yellows in particular look over-saturated for the style of shot IMHO. Maybe try reducing colour vibrance a bit.

Jan 04 13 11:18 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Dan K Photography wrote:
I don't like that the side of her stomach looks wet and the rest of her looks dry. I would prefer a bit more contrast for my taste but overall I like it.

Thanks Dan. Mate I've been messing around for hours on this style smile
The "wetness", I believe would be the highlight of sun piercing through the lace curtains and I have edits with more prominent contrast, less, more color here and there etc... I think I'm suffering a little cabin fever at the moment after a day in front of my monitor.
Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate your opinion.

Jan 05 13 01:08 am Link

Photographer

Drew Smith Photography

Posts: 5214

Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

Rik - you have some really superb work in your portfolio, especially the B&W nudes!

As for this image you can do better my man. How many hours have you spent on it so far? However many it was, double it! smile

But seriously, I, like you, 'mess' around with this kind of thing (trying different styles just to see if I like it) and I've found that you need to step away at various intervals and come back to it with a fresh eye. The longer you spend 24 inches away from the screen the more 'blind' to the overall piece you become.

I think most of it works well and some of it not so well. There are one or two areas where the contrast or details in too high and therefore is detracts from the overall style you are attempting.

Here's one of mine to have a go at, as requested. I spent way too long on it, but it was my first attempt at retouching face and hair using a 50% Grey layer (which I loved) to Dodge and Burn. The eyes are way too sharp - I didn't step away often enough. smile

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130102/09/50e4706b205ff.jpg

Jan 05 13 01:18 am Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Lanna_ wrote:
I like it! (Dang it Rik - take a trip to my side of the pond so we can shoot!)

I could go for it being a little less hazy (not sure if that's the correct term), but otherwise I'd be pleased as punch to have something like that in my portfolio.

I find her lips to be distracting.  There's a little dark part in the center.  Are her lips open just a little bit?  Or is that a purposeful makeup thing?  Might go for a shot where the lips are more open or fully closed, but that's just me looking at it as a llama.

I'd love to come and visit your beautiful country Lana and I promise when I do I will let you know smile
Thank you for your opinion and keen observation regarding her lips. I have many others from this set to select for a re-edit on the mouth, but I'm thinking clone/liquefy might just be the answer to our problem here.
I am excited to experiment more with this technique, maybe sometime in the future we'll get the opportunity to shoot and by then I should have it down to an art big_smile

Jan 05 13 01:21 am Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

T B O L wrote:
The reds and yellows in particular look over-saturated for the style of shot IMHO. Maybe try reducing colour vibrance a bit.

Thanks TBOL I appreciate your keen eye too. Although I think I've come to a stage today where it's all just "mashing" together.
When I wake tomoz for a second look I'll keep the saturation in mind.
Cheers.

Jan 05 13 01:25 am Link

Model

_eMMe_

Posts: 866

Florence, Toscana, Italy

Very nice shot. I like the colors and saturation. Perhaps a little bit to much red, but I like a lot yellow and blue. Model pose is a little bit stiff, I don't like the position of her left harm.

Jan 05 13 04:45 am Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Drew Smith Photography wrote:
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130102/09/50e4706b205ff.jpg

Thank you Drew. You make some very good points here and thank you also for the encouraging words smile
This is something I do wish to develop in the future and incorporate as part of my style.


Regarding your image. Imho your post process looks a little over done in it's current state.
The features seem far too sharp, especially so in direct contrast with the models skin texture.
Now I may be a little biased here, I am not a big fan of skin smoothing/blurring. I like to see pores mostly intact for the final print, that's just me though.
The eyes sing but also appear overdone in comparison to the models almost featureless skin.
I think your sculpting is really well done and close to spot on, but the intensity/opacity could be backed off a little to make it appear more natural.
As far as your models hair goes, I feel it too has been a little overdone, to me it appears blurred with little to no detail.
Over all a nice image of a beautiful woman, however, to me it sits closer towards being an artistic representation with the resulting painterly effects from post work.
I too enjoy the convenience of dodge/burning onto neutral grey layer, but have found it difficult at times to make accurate judgment calls when I can't turn off or switch between a separate dodge/burn layer.

All the very best for 2013.

Jan 05 13 07:12 am Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

_eMMe_ wrote:
Very nice shot. I like the colors and saturation. Perhaps a little bit to much red, but I like a lot yellow and blue. Model pose is a little bit stiff, I don't like the position of her left harm.

Thank you eMMe. It can be difficult for me to gauge reds at times, for I suffer hereditary color blindness. It's not severe, but does effect my ability to accurately see shades of red.
Consequently, the color picker is my bestest friend in photoshop smile

eMMe, you have some totally brilliant work in your folio, as you appear expressive and hold yourself elegantly in posture throughout.
Great work, it would be a pleasure to shoot with you.

Jan 05 13 07:24 am Link

Model

Laura1982

Posts: 81

New Lebanon, Ohio, US

Me?

Jan 05 13 12:15 pm Link

Artist/Painter

MainePaintah

Posts: 1892

Saco, Maine, US

I was never a fan of the "high key" photo look, but in your case I'll make an exception, and give this a  big 2thumbs up!!!

Also, I think your port is full of exciting and exceptional photos.

I love a good model who twists and turns, so of course, this is my favorite in your port:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28628765

Take a look at my pastel figure paintings in my port and comment on one if you like.

Jan 05 13 12:27 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Laura1982 wrote:
Me?

Hi Laura, sorry to let you down, but please read the initial post and then I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.

Cheers smile

Jan 05 13 08:34 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

MainePaintah wrote:
I was never a fan of the "high key" photo look, but in your case I'll make an exception, and give this a  big 2thumbs up!!!

Also, I think your port is full of exciting and exceptional photos.

I love a good model who twists and turns, so of course, this is my favorite in your port:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28628765

Take a look at my pastel figure paintings in my port and comment on one if you like.

My fave for more than one reason wink

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110109/02/4d299473923a6_m.jpg

Jan 05 13 08:41 pm Link

Model

Laura1982

Posts: 81

New Lebanon, Ohio, US

Good- I love the expression in this photo.....

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/27431554

Bad-  While the photograph is stunning and reminds me of my all time modeling idol Marilyn, I don't like how the watermark is across the bottom of her gorgeous gown.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/24532681

Ugly-  Couldn't really find ugly, but I'm not crazy about this shot. I'm not a professional but to me the way her bones are showing through is not so appealing. Not sure about the pose either.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31188634
Overall, I love your portfolio!

Jan 06 13 06:04 am Link

Model

_eMMe_

Posts: 866

Florence, Toscana, Italy

Rik Image wrote:
eMMe, you have some totally brilliant work in your folio, as you appear expressive and hold yourself elegantly in posture throughout.
Great work, it would be a pleasure to shoot with you.

So it will be for me.

Jan 06 13 11:19 am Link

Photographer

T A X I

Posts: 210

West Covina, California, US

perfect model. lighting is nice but overall i want more detail. too washed out. a little more contrast please smile

Jan 06 13 11:22 am Link