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Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

I tell models I require a 'real' email address and mobile number in the secound round of messages setting-up a shoot - email can be a 'modelling-specific' hotmail address, I don't care, same goes for the mobile number - a pre-pay sim-card is peanuts. This sis so I can send them my Release and Usage Agreement paperwork to read-through and approve beforehand.

Without either of those we go no further.

Once we have that sorted, I tell them that once we've finalised the 'concept' - usually a matter of "What clothes do you have? Well, bring them all" - that I will email them 7 days prior to the shoot and again the day before the shoot. If either message gets missed, then the shoot is off.
I only use the phone-number to call them if they're late on the day after having confirmed.

Jan 17 13 03:57 am Link

Model

Crystal Rose Modeling

Posts: 441

Sacramento, California, US

Contacted him to confirm the 4pm photoshoot tonight...he wants to change it to 5:30. I'm ok with that, although this is a railroad tracks shoot and we won't have much daytime lighting left. Thoughts?

Jan 19 13 07:54 pm Link

Photographer

Quay Lude

Posts: 6386

Madison, Wisconsin, US

Jordan L Duncan wrote:

Definitely get real names, and check references before you ever even agree to schedule a date. Check references with at least 5 models or stylists, and be sure to ask about their reliability, whether they were on time, provided enough information about the location, their professional attitude, and how long it took to get images back and so on. If anything throws up a red flag, do not work with him or her. Look up their names in the sexual offender registry too.

HOLY SHIT! Want a blood sample too?

I did a shoot last month with an agency model. Her agency sent her to me. We never spoke before she got to my studio. She left after 3 hours of shooting and I don't think she even knew my name. Some of the best fucking images I've ever shot. She's using them. So is the agency.

What in the fuck.

Jan 19 13 08:03 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 11726

Olney, Maryland, US

UltimateAppeal wrote:
He proposed a day and time (this afternoon) a few days ago, and you did not get back to him until yesterday evening. That is less than 24 hours notice that you would accept the shoot.

PhotographybyT wrote:
OP, you probably got back to him a little too late that he already had made other arrangements or plans for the weekend.

To me, this shows where the "no response is a response" falls short.  Does "no response right now" mean "no" or does it mean that "I will get back to you later"?

Jan 19 13 08:08 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

vbabe wrote:
Contacted him to confirm the 4pm photoshoot tonight...he wants to change it to 5:30. I'm ok with that, although this is a railroad tracks shoot and we won't have much daytime lighting left. Thoughts?

Well, the photographer is wanting to shoot at that time, so I would say go along with his plan.  However, I think you are correct that it gets dark right around 5:30.  I would have kept it at 4:00 if I were the photographer, but it's not my shoot.  Best wishes on it though!  smile

Jan 19 13 08:26 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

Cuica Cafezinho wrote:
HOLY SHIT! Want a blood sample too?

I did a shoot last month with an agency model. Her agency sent her to me. We never spoke before she got to my studio. She left after 3 hours of shooting and I don't think she even knew my name. Some of the best fucking images I've ever shot. She's using them. So is the agency.

What in the fuck.

Yes, "WTF!" to your response!  We are NOT talking about an agency shoot here!  You went through an agency, so it's different than TFP with a model or photographer you meet on this website.  Do you even remember the name of the model?  You don't have to if you are going through an agency.  So excuse me, but I don't use model agencies myself ... never have!  I do quite a few of the same things an agent would do if holding a casting call.  That includes checking references, and speaking to the model on the phone in advance.  Some times I might even do a casting where I meet the models in person to make sure they are right for what I want to do. 

So happy for you that you had a very successful photo shoot.

Jan 19 13 08:32 pm Link

Photographer

Quay Lude

Posts: 6386

Madison, Wisconsin, US

Patrick Walberg wrote:
Yes, "WTF!" to your response!  We are NOT talking about an agency shoot here!  You went through an agency, so it's different than TFP with a model or photographer you meet on this website.  Do you even remember the name of the model?  You don't have to if you are going through an agency.  So excuse me, but I don't use model agencies myself ... never have!  I do quite a few of the same things an agent would do if holding a casting call.  That includes checking references, and speaking to the model on the phone in advance.  Some times I might even do a casting where I meet the models in person to make sure they are right for what I want to do. 

So happy for you that you had a very successful photo shoot.

Patrick, your posts are so full of wrong, I just don't have the energy to try to help you.

Jan 19 13 08:45 pm Link

Photographer

Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21526

Chicago, Illinois, US

Two years ago a former Elite model hit me up to shoot.   Keep in mind I'm not a fashion guy but she dug my style.   She's been published before.   She's older now but still beautiful.   She didn't need me to provide five past model references.   She didn't need to provide fingerprints and a DNA sample.   She emailed, confirmed and called to reconfirm and we shot.   No drama.   I contrast that to MM models who require photographers jump through hoops to take some free photos.   I for one refuse.   If you like my work then lets shoot.   If working with a model means I have to go through any changes then I charge.   I don't chase after models.   I don't allow escorts.   

Shoots should be like the one with that former agency model and when they aren't.   I pass.

Jan 19 13 09:05 pm Link

Photographer

EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3409

Tempe, Arizona, US

UltimateAppeal wrote:

Note the part in bold.

He proposed a day and time (this afternoon) a few days ago, and you did not get back to him until yesterday evening. That is less than 24 hours notice that you would accept the shoot.

Now, I am not trying to sound mean, but to me, I would have let him know a few days ago that it was ok, or that you would check your schedule and get back to him as soon as possible. Just to leave someone hanging until the last minute he may have made other plans and been gone for the weekend assuming you weren't available.

I like to plan things in advance, and have confirmation in advance. A last minute (same day or day before) confirmation is great; but scheduling, should be done as early as possible.

Just my thoughts.

+1

Jan 19 13 09:24 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

Cuica Cafezinho wrote:

Patrick, your posts are so full of wrong, I just don't have the energy to try to help you.

What makes you so sure that your posts are so full of "right?" 

Save your energy because I don't need your help.

Jan 19 13 10:42 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Don't write him off.   Let him know if he contacts you again he needs to provide a phone number, address, name and location of your shoot.   I understand llamas being shy about providing numbers but photographers???   Kinda odd.   Your point about starting somewhere is a great observation.   How can you build a good reputation if no one will work with you?

I agree with you, Tony.  She is supposed to have shot with him today.  I've scheduled to shoot with her next week for an idea I have.  With the first photographer, it's a matter of them communicating faster.  Exchanging phone numbers is something I've already done with her.  Exchanging phone numbers is a critical part of booking llamas!

Jan 19 13 10:47 pm Link

Model

Kamyab

Posts: 15

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

This happens to me all the time, but u also didn't reply that fast either. First lesson that a model NEEDS to learn is to reply quickly and always have your phone with you so you can check your MM. that photographer would have most likely been talking to 5 other models about the same thing and the one that replied in 10 minutes rather then 24 houres would have got the job.

Jan 20 13 02:01 am Link