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Jan 28 13 11:45 am Link

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Russian Katarina

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Koryn Locke wrote:

It's a nice thought that, if you take good care of your man, you will get more attention and affection. That's the "ideal" situation, but I've noticed too that a lot of men will start losing interest in a woman once she begins to do companion-type things for him, like doing his laundry, or preparing meals. Either the male gets frightened out of the relationship when they see these roles becoming apparent, or he then starts to see the female as unremarkable and boring, and loses interest.

There are lots of men who feel like, in order to sustain sexual interest in a female, they have to keep her at a distance. I suspect I am involved with one of those men right now. Once they start to know you "as a whole person" ---so, around the time a genuine connection starts to form --- you either become frightening to them, or no longer sexually appealing.

Working in strip clubs, it was VERY common for men to tell me about how their sexual attraction to a woman would start to die off as soon as they actually got to "know" her. It was a common complaint, regarding why they went from relationship to relationship, remaining unsatisfied in any of them, after a few months.

Probably another version of the Madonna-whore complex thing.

Such men have intimacy issues in general, a fairly common problem that usually traces back to their childhood - lack of a father / father figure for instance, or a mother that is either overbearing/dominant or distant.

That's a whole different ball game to mend, often one that the wife / girlfriend alone can't overcome without him seeking professional support.

Intimacy is https://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.pngand many men still learn to shut themselves off emotionally when they enter that stage of a relationship. To un-learn such deeply embedded behavioral patterns is not easy.

I've been with such men too and if you do not see an honest effort from him to address these problems, you are wasting your time in such a relationship. My father was one of the most emotionally unavailable and distant men I have ever known and he could never develop the courage to tackle his issues, let alone overcome them. My mother wasted many of her best years being with him and trying to fix him, a mistake I made sure not to repeat myself.

There's nothing worse in a relationship than feeling disconnect with the person you love and care for.

Jan 28 13 11:45 am Link

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Jules NYC

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Nothing is more satisfying than being with an emotionally intelligent ADULT.

Jan 28 13 11:48 am Link

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Russian Katarina

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Jojo West wrote:

I have to completely agree. Some may scoff or criticize my train of thought, but it works for me. My husband is my world. I respect, admire and adore him in and out of bed. I treat him like a king, and in turn he treats me like a queen made of glass... out of bed tongue.

It's an unpopular attitude with feminists, that's for sure.

But then again common sense prevails and success speaks for itsself, whereas Zeitgeist is forever arbitrary and in flux.

Jan 28 13 11:49 am Link

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Jules NYC wrote:

Lmao
lol

Yeah man, gives me hope!

Jan 28 13 11:49 am Link

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London Fog wrote:

Yeah man, gives me hope!

You're cool Arun
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Jan 28 13 11:50 am Link

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Jules NYC wrote:

You're cool Arun
smile

No complaints so far!

Jan 28 13 11:53 am Link

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London Fog wrote:

No complaints so far!

lol

Ditto that

Jan 28 13 11:54 am Link

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Jules NYC wrote:
Nothing is more satisfying than being with an emotionally intelligent ADULT.

Amen ... goes for both sexes wink

Jan 28 13 11:59 am Link

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Jules NYC

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Atelier57  wrote:

Amen ... goes for both sexes wink

Yes indeed
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Jan 28 13 12:00 pm Link

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Koryn

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Jojo West wrote:
I have to completely agree. Some may scoff or criticize my train of thought, but it works for me. My husband is my world. I respect, admire and adore him in and out of bed. I treat him like a king, and in turn he treats me like a queen made of glass... out of bed tongue.

Russian Katarina wrote:
It's an unpopular attitude with feminists, that's for sure.

But then again common sense prevails and success speaks for itsself, whereas Zeitgeist is forever arbitrary and in flux.

I consider myself a feminist, but I do believe that you should try to do for your mate, and "take care of them" to the best of your abilities --- regardless of what gender you choose to connect with romantically.

Even if I was in a same-sex partnership, I would probably still fill the same domestic roles I feel compelled to fill in a heterosexual context. Homemaking and nurturing has always come pretty naturally to me. I want a mate to feel contented with their home-life, to feel safe and cared for at home. That's a big thing for me.

It's not anti-feminist to be a "giver." It's just something you either enjoy, or you don't enjoy.

Jan 28 13 12:02 pm Link

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My thoughts on this thread

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Jan 28 13 12:08 pm Link

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Jules NYC wrote:
My thoughts on this thread

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Pretty nice typesetting for a cardboard sign. lol

Jan 28 13 12:13 pm Link

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Koryn Locke wrote:

Two Pears Studio wrote:
Fantasy sex is often overrated.... but it is rarely fulfilling.

bullshit.

I fantasized about having sex with women for more than a decade before I actually managed to have that experience.

It was even better than I ever envisioned in my head, all those years.

Fantasy sex shows us what we *want.* We want things for a reason, most of the time.


And this just makes no sense whatsoever.

I said it can be pleasurable... but by itself it is not enough to sustain someone. It is not a cause in a person's faithfulness. 

The rest of it... take it or leave it... you may not get it, but I do.

Jan 28 13 12:13 pm Link

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jesse paulk

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fuck this thread and everyone answering this dbag's stupid shit

the only proper reply is, "yourE a moron OP"

Jan 28 13 12:17 pm Link

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Jules NY[/quote wrote:

Lighten up man
There are far too many cougar jokes out there to take this all to heart

Always loved cougars ...  my bbf and lover for over is 7 yrs older than me smile  not a cougars for me ... just a sexy mature women who knows what she wants and how to get it wink

Jan 28 13 12:17 pm Link

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Atelier57  wrote:

Always loved cougars ...  my bbf and lover for over is 7 yrs older than me smile  not a cougars for me ... just a sexy mature women who knows what she wants and how to get it wink

TMI! Like we give a rats ass!

Jan 28 13 12:21 pm Link

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jesse paulk wrote:
fuck this thread and everyone answering this dbag's stupid shit

the only proper reply is, "your a moron OP"

You're.

Jan 28 13 12:22 pm Link

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Andialu

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London Fog wrote:

TMI! Like we give a rats ass!

Who peed in your cheerios?

Jan 28 13 12:22 pm Link

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jesse paulk

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Orca Bay Images wrote:

You're.

thanks

Jan 28 13 12:23 pm Link

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Jules NYC

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Atelier57  wrote:
Always loved cougars ...  my bbf and lover for over is 7 yrs older than me smile  not a cougars for me ... just a sexy mature women who knows what she wants and how to get it wink

It's funny, I never really understood the cougar tag.
If a woman connects with whomever for any reason, that's her business.
Men get older too.

What makes me chuckle is how men have so many expectations for women.
I grow tired of little boys.

So men... Try not to look busted and take care of your health!
Moisturizer is a good start.

lol

Jan 28 13 12:24 pm Link

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Andialu wrote:

Who peed in your cheerios?

Frosted Flakes actually, and they taste gross with pee!

Jan 28 13 12:24 pm Link

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Jules NYC wrote:

It's funny, I never really understood the cougar tag.
If a woman connects with whomever for any reason, that's her business.
Men get older too.

What makes me chuckle is how men have so many expectations for women.
I grow tired if little boys.

So men... Try not to look busted and take care of your health!
Moisturizer is a good start.

lol

Hand cream works wonders too!

Jan 28 13 12:25 pm Link

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London Fog wrote:

Frosted Flakes actually, and they taste gross with pee!

lol

Jan 28 13 12:26 pm Link

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Jules NYC

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London Fog wrote:

Hand cream works wonders too!

Lmao

Jan 28 13 12:27 pm Link

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Andialu wrote:

Pretty nice typesetting for a cardboard sign. lol

Isn't it?
lol

Jan 28 13 12:28 pm Link

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Russian Katarina

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Koryn Locke wrote:

Jojo West wrote:
I have to completely agree. Some may scoff or criticize my train of thought, but it works for me. My husband is my world. I respect, admire and adore him in and out of bed. I treat him like a king, and in turn he treats me like a queen made of glass... out of bed tongue.

I consider myself a feminist, but I do believe that you should try to do for your mate, and "take care of them" to the best of your abilities --- regardless of what gender you choose to connect with romantically.

Even if I was in a same-sex partnership, I would probably still fill the same domestic roles I feel compelled to fill in a heterosexual context. Homemaking and nurturing has always come pretty naturally to me. I want a mate to feel contented with their home-life, to feel safe and cared for at home. That's a big thing for me.

It's not anti-feminist to be a "giver." It's just something you either enjoy, or you don't enjoy.

I was referring to mainstream feminism which is riddled with a man-hating agenda dating back to the 1960ies, there are indeed other schools of feminism that are more inclusive towards men.

Still, the fact that JoJo basically apologized preemptively for writing that she enjoys taking care of her man should tell you how prevalent and mainstream this agenda still is.

I think it is something to take pride in, not something to be ashamed of. Women today are so under pressure to appear dominant, emancipated and in control at all times, as if it was a sign of weakness of character when a woman is a devoted wife and/or mother.

True emancipation means doing what comes natural to you, not rigidly following the current Zeitgeist.

Jan 28 13 12:32 pm Link

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London Fog wrote:

TMI! Like we give a rats ass!

... ah yes ..you can always tell when a brother ain't getting any wink lmao!

Jan 28 13 12:36 pm Link

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jesse paulk wrote:

thanks

It must be a law of nature or physics that anyone who calls someone a moron ends up getting the you're/your wrong. It's like the buttered side of a piece of bread, when dropped, always ends up hitting the floor.

Jan 28 13 12:43 pm Link

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Atelier57  wrote:

London Fog wrote:

TMI! Like we give a rats ass!

... ah yes ..you can always tell when a brother ain't getting any wink lmao!

Yeah, yeah whatever!

Jan 28 13 01:14 pm Link

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Jan 28 13 01:21 pm Link

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Russian Katarina wrote:

It's an unpopular attitude with feminists, that's for sure.

But then again common sense prevails and success speaks for itsself, whereas Zeitgeist is forever arbitrary and in flux.

Perhaps the feminists of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s even? I think in this day and age, after the effects of feminism have sunk in...women are starting to find that happy medium. I still think I have the same rights as any man, but does it make me blush when my husband opens doors for me? Yes, I feel appreciated and taken care of, even though we BOTH know I can take care of myself.

I don't believe in those extremes. Feminism was meant to be about political, economic, and social equality, which included education and employment. Somewhere along the line someone thought that meant women didn't want to be treated well, and made to feel special. I guess for some it meant it was ok to emasculate their men and disregard the whole "mutual happiness and respect" that should come with relationships.

Jan 28 13 01:23 pm Link

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Russian Katarina wrote:

I have no desire to "fulfill a guy's every fantasy" - I do enjoy fulfilling my husband's fantasies, though. I've been faithfully married for ten years and find that being "frisky and creative" and having an active sex life is a vital part of any happy marriage.

Why would that be mutually exclusive?

THIS smile

I am a freak, get bored easily, love sex of all kinds, and am still 100% faithful to my husband... don't even want to think about someone else!! smile  Lucky for me he's a faithful "freak" too! smile

Jan 28 13 01:31 pm Link

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Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Is there an inverse relationship between women that are faithful, and those that can and are willing to fulfill a guy's every fantasy? lol. It seems like the only women that any guys say are good in bed and frisky and creative are the ones that they fully expect have cheated on them. And those of women that are quite boring and under experienced sexually, and have no strong desire to be more sexual are the ones that are generally completely faithful. Are there too many women that are the best of both worlds, or are we talking total mutual exclusivity?

One of the more nonsensical ideas thrown around this place, known for nonsense wink

Jan 28 13 01:34 pm Link

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Anyone who feels insulted by the OP, there will be a pity party afterparty at the W hotel. Drinks will be provided, along with a nice comfortable place for you to shove it.

-_- but no really. when someone makes a general statement about what they believe a particular group of people to be and you take it personally, you just make yourself look stupid. the OP is talking about women who are sexually adventurous and unfaithful and those who are faithful but no fun in bed. The only possible way you can take offense to this is if you associate yourself with one of those particular groups, if not--and let me make this very clear--THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. The OP was speaking about general observable traits, and there is no reason to take general statements personally. You may reflect on your own opinions which i believe is what the OP was asking for, but to respond in opposition is ridiculous and forces the OP to defend a stance i'm not even sure he 100% believes in.

Whew... -_- Its like dealing with a bunch of middle schoolers. Sheesh.

Jan 28 13 01:39 pm Link

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Jules NYC wrote:
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LMAO. I love Cyanide

Jan 28 13 01:42 pm Link

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Ben Hinman wrote:

LMAO. I love Cyanide

Ditto that
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Jan 28 13 02:06 pm Link

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Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:

Happy birthday!! smile

Thank you(-:

Jan 28 13 03:23 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images wrote:

It must be a law of nature or physics that anyone who calls someone a moron ends up getting the you're/your wrong. It's like the buttered side of a piece of bread, when dropped, always ends up hitting the floor.

it's 'cause when we are riled up sometimes we don't check ourselves :p

Jan 28 13 03:27 pm Link

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Ben Hinman wrote:
Whew... -_- Its like dealing with a bunch of middle schoolers. Sheesh.

says the guy who loves cyanide and happiness.

oh i love it to, cause its totally immature and stupid

Jan 28 13 03:29 pm Link