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Cheyenne Demus
Posts: 8
Chicago, Illinois, US


Hi fellow llamas and photographers, I need your honest thoughts and opinions on this matter . recently I just got a message in my MM inbox, has anyone heard of this person before? Sounds too good to be true! I tried googling his hame and click on the profile "Art Basil Museum" but it says its either been removed from the site or is awaiting for approval. so heres the message i got:
Hello just Reaching out to see if you were interested in being apart of a major Art Basil that is going to be World wide by the Young Painter "Francisco Picaso" who is One of the Talent's On Royalty Art Basil Inc. He is painting llamas from around the World and will be touring with it also. We ask for Serious llamas who are ready to Travel make very good money and put there hearts into the work. There are a Few spots left and the Job is Offering 5 Figures a month. The Job is based upon the Culture it's self of Painting. Francisco has Painted for Donald Trump, The Jackson Family and a Few clothing lines like Old Navy, and American Apparel. You can Contact his Manager at 407-690-3306 and leave a message which is the fastest way or Contact Francisco on  His Facebook www.facebook.com/officialjacksonpainter and You can also leave your info as far as name number and email. We are looking for the Face of the Art Basil tour to llama. Thanks for your time and hope to hear from you soon.


What do you think?
I checked his fb page. He has nice work but still idk.. i talked to him and he says  i could talk to his manager who will answer all my questions. i asked for a name of his manager. Gepetto he said.
Feb 07 13 09:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ForeverFotos
Posts: 6,620
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


1) If the account has been removed from MM, it's probably because this individual was scamming people. Contact a moderator with the account number, they may be able to give you some more information. http://www.ripoffreport.com

2) I used several google searches and could not locate anyone whose name matches what you've been given or any reference to this "Basil museum".

3) I did a reverse telephone lookup on the manager's number and found that it's a cell phone number located in Orlando Florida. That's probably why they used the name of the Disney character that is associated with Pinocchio. The name associated with that number was Janetta.

4) I went to the facebook page, it may belong to somebody. But if that somebody has only gotten three comments in the last month, they are probably not a real person.

5) There's an old proverb that says "If it's too good to be true, it probably is".

My advice......scam.
Feb 07 13 10:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Cheyenne Demus
Posts: 8
Chicago, Illinois, US


Thank you! I would had never thought of that. as being the association with the Disney Character. I talked to him on fb and he said hes a 18 year old that has an office in Disney and is funded by Donald Trump?
Feb 07 13 10:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ForeverFotos
Posts: 6,620
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


This guy has a great imagination. Disney doesn't rent offices in Disney World and I seriously doubt that Donald Trump has ever heard of him. If you decide to proceed with anything this guy says, don't do it without getting a number where you can contact Mr Trump directly for a reference. Good luck.
Feb 07 13 10:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,798
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


ForeverFotos wrote:
2) I used several google searches and could not locate anyone whose name matches what you've been given or any reference to this "Basil museum".

While I agree that the guy is a scammer, Art Basel is a legitimate organization that puts on gallery shows in Basel, Switzerland and Miami, FL, and I guess it's now in Hong Kong, too.

https://www.artbasel.com/

Feb 08 13 12:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DavidCoward Photography
Posts: 629
Sandy Springs, Georgia, US


One good indication it's a scam is the bad spelling and punctuation. A "prestigious" company wouldn't hire an agent lacking decent communication skills.
Feb 08 13 01:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Blue Ash Film Group
Posts: 9,379
Cincinnati, Ohio, US


What difference does it make whether it is a real scam or a fake one? To me, a scam is a scam.
Feb 08 13 04:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Indian Feather
Posts: 1
Southern Pines, North Carolina, US


This is a SCAM~! I was personally a victim of this. (on 2/8/2013) being a new model, i was incredibly excited. I went down to Florida, met with his "manager" as well as "Francisco" himself... His manager proceeded to have my boyfriend and I purchase (9) Iphone 5, stating we needed this for our "business" lines which we would need to open an LLC. "Gepetto" promptly took all (9) phones to "program" (aka, take the sim cards and resell)- this individual goes by the name of "Andre L Vann"- look him up- he has several arrest records in florida and he will have one more if my charges ever go through against him. These are real people who will show you a lot of cash if you promise to buy this, buy that etc. they will "reimburse" you. However, they will SCAM you. We lost over $2000 and barely even had enough money to get back home. We filed police reports as well as reports with the phone company but good luck ever seeing any of that money again. BEWARE!!!
Feb 14 13 09:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
nyk fury
Posts: 2,918
Port Townsend, Washington, US


Hello just Reaching....

when i see them writing funny - in this case, capitalizing a bunch of words inappropriately - it is an immediate red flag. throw it in the trash with offers from ukranian women who want to mow your lawn.

Feb 14 13 09:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Image K
Posts: 23,365
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Indian Feather wrote:
This is a SCAM~! I was personally a victim of this. (on 2/8/2013) being a new model, i was incredibly excited. I went down to Florida, met with his "manager" as well as "Francisco" himself... His manager proceeded to have my boyfriend and I purchase (9) Iphone 5, stating we needed this for our "business" lines which we would need to open an LLC. "Gepetto" promptly took all (9) phones to "program" (aka, take the sim cards and resell)- this individual goes by the name of "Andre L Vann"- look him up- he has several arrest records in florida and he will have one more if my charges ever go through against him. These are real people who will show you a lot of cash if you promise to buy this, buy that etc. they will "reimburse" you. However, they will SCAM you. We lost over $2000 and barely even had enough money to get back home. We filed police reports as well as reports with the phone company but good luck ever seeing any of that money again. BEWARE!!!

Why didn't you "look him up" before you almost got stranded in Florida? You were talked into buying 9 I-phones for "business lines"?

And people wonder why these scams never go away.

Feb 14 13 09:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Flex Photography
Posts: 5,118
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada


So his manager is "Gepetto"? Does this guy also have a very long nose?
And what could be causing that to happen? ... Clues, you think?
Feb 16 13 09:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sal W Hanna
Posts: 6,614
Huntington Beach, California, US


The guy is real, but he is not connected to the Jackson Family. He has painted images of them, but not for them. Big difference.
I'm a bit of an expert when it comes to the Jackson's tongue
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/388158_299702506729813_686498623_n.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= … 667&type=3
Feb 16 13 09:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Vector One Photography
Posts: 2,661
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


They are fake scamming you ???? People shouldn't fake things... they should really do them.
Feb 17 13 11:24 am  Link  Quote 
Model
MeLisSa MonRoe
Posts: 3
Providence, Rhode Island, US


Mar 15 13 05:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5,209
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom


Image K wrote:

Why didn't you "look him up" before you almost got stranded in Florida? You were talked into buying 9 I-phones for "business lines"?

And people wonder why these scams never go away.

I blame the lack of survival pressures.

Back in the day when we were little proto humans scrabbling about on the savanna if you didn't spot the sharp toothed thing in the long grass trying to 'scam' you then you never got the chance to pass on your genes.

Mar 15 13 05:22 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Nicole L Grant
Posts: 77
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Indian Feather wrote:
This is a SCAM~! I was personally a victim of this. (on 2/8/2013) being a new model, i was incredibly excited. I went down to Florida, met with his "manager" as well as "Francisco" himself... His manager proceeded to have my boyfriend and I purchase (9) Iphone 5, stating we needed this for our "business" lines which we would need to open an LLC. "Gepetto" promptly took all (9) phones to "program" (aka, take the sim cards and resell)- this individual goes by the name of "Andre L Vann"- look him up- he has several arrest records in florida and he will have one more if my charges ever go through against him. These are real people who will show you a lot of cash if you promise to buy this, buy that etc. they will "reimburse" you. However, they will SCAM you. We lost over $2000 and barely even had enough money to get back home. We filed police reports as well as reports with the phone company but good luck ever seeing any of that money again. BEWARE!!!

I'm sorry but why would you need 9 business lines and why would they all need to be IPhone 5s. That just screams scam.

Mar 15 13 09:21 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Leonard Gee Photography
Posts: 16,101
Sacramento, California, US


My comprehension is a bit off.

If the "real scam" is a scam; then a "fake scam" is not a scam after all?
Mar 15 13 09:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Knowles
Posts: 3,556
Ferndale, California, US


Sal W Hanna wrote:
The guy is real, but he is not connected to the Jackson Family. He has painted images of them, but not for them. Big difference.
I'm a bit of an expert when it comes to the Jackson's tongue
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/388158_299702506729813_686498623_n.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= … 667&type=3

That motorcycle is as ugly as Michael Jackson was weird.

Mar 15 13 10:18 am  Link  Quote 
Model
KOOLAYDE ARTIST
Posts: 1
Atlanta, Georgia, US


THAT NUMBER 4076903306 AND THIS LADY TOLD ME HIS NAME IS DRAY JONES BUT WHEN I PUT THIS NUMBER IN GOOGLE I FOUND OUT THAT THIS PERSON IS SOMEONE ELSE!!!THANX FOR GOOGLE
Apr 29 13 04:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,798
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Apr 29 13 04:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Nathine
Posts: 144
Scottsdale, Arizona, US


They may be at it again. That name came up in an email I got.
No 1. If you have to travel, they pay for the airplane ticket round trip up front. In Your name. That way you have air travel.
No 2. They pay for hotel reservations in your name, confirm before traveling. In that way you have it.
No 3. if transportation is required they pay for driver and car, or rent you pre paid car in Your name. You have it.

Never pay any out of pocket expenses, if the job interview is legit. These costs are covered as operating expenses by anything that has a decent budget and is legit.

You'd be surprised how fast scams back down when you refuse to pay for anything out of pocket, or refuse to forward money from any check they may send.
By the way legit companies will not Send cash, but cover costs as stated above in you name. In this way you don't get stranded.

I send any offers for investigative lookup with AZDPS. Catch scammers this way and give them a nice all expense vacation, in their name, paid by law enforcement.

Nathine
Apr 29 13 09:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Nathine
Posts: 144
Scottsdale, Arizona, US


Tel number 407-690-3306 listed to Jan Terrell
Address 2553 Stratford Dr. Cocoa FL. 32926

Not quite sure if Dray Jones actually exists, or boyfriend of Jan Terrell and maybe her working scam.

Male AKA Dray Jones:  Age 30 - 45, accent foreign, middle eastern, can't follow english well when nervous.

You can report the above to Fl. Authorities if interested.

By the way, Dray Jones is a Basket Ball Player.
Nathine
Apr 29 13 09:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Crystal_hawj
Posts: 7
Sacramento, California, US


*** IMPORTANT: IF YOU WAS CONTACTED BY ME ABOUT A FILM ITS FAKE!!! ***
                                 THIS IS HIS NEWEST SCAM
                ...please help us put him and his girlfriend AWAY!!!

I apologize in advance to those who was contacted by "me" about the film. It is not real and I have no idea who wrote it, where it is getting shot at and who is sponsoring the movie. It was not me, it was a man name Dray Jones who is known as Gepetto, his real name is Andre Vann. He claims to be a manager who know a lot of famous people. He is working with is girlfriend Samia Molina to scam people mostly women of their life savings. I've been transferring money into her account for months. Please if you given them money or bought things for them or know anyone who did please tell them to contact me. Please help us put Andre Vann away for good. He's been arrested a couple of time but they couldn't hold him because it is an argument dispute. But if more victims comes out we could get the police and even the FBI on the case and have him put away for good. He had scam hundreds of people and ruin hundreds of life. Please help us stop him. He is still scamming people posing as someone else. Here are two news videos showing his victims and what he did to them. If you are still in contact with "Dray" PLEASE do not ask him if this is real or fake or if he done it. I am a prove of his scam and so are these videos. I know he promised you everything you wanted and you believed him because you want it so bad your willing to close one eye...but the truth is he is a fake and you must have both eyes open to walk or you trip and fall. Pleas do your research before working with someone. I wish I did. PLEASE HELP US PUT HIM AWAY FOR GOOD PLEASE!

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/act … ker/nWQQN/

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/act … mic/nXWxB/

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/ar … z2Oa5SCYwF
May 17 13 01:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Caradoc
Posts: 19,583
Scottsdale, Arizona, US


Drew Smith Photography wrote:
I blame the lack of survival pressures.

Back in the day when we were little proto humans scrabbling about on the savanna if you didn't spot the sharp toothed thing in the long grass trying to 'scam' you then you never got the chance to pass on your genes.

Poe's Theorem of Evolution: "Medical science and/or technology have supplanted natural selection such that now we have persons in positions of responsibility and/or authority who are so stupid that merely two hundred years ago, they would have been eaten by something on their way to the outhouse."

May 17 13 02:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MeLisSa MonRoe
Posts: 3
Providence, Rhode Island, US


Sep 22 13 06:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MeLisSa MonRoe
Posts: 3
Providence, Rhode Island, US


Andre Vann is not a scam artist, he's a business man, and unfortunately those who feel they have been scammed did not know how to do "real" legitimate business and they should have gotten a lawyer if they were so sceptical. He's not in jail and thats because its a contract dispute that these angry individuals are fighting. It's not his fault people are nieve to the entertainment business honestly.
Sep 22 13 06:59 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 17,798
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


MeLisSa MonRoe wrote:
Andre Vann is not a scam artist, he's a business man, and unfortunately those who feel they have been scammed did not know how to do "real" legitimate business and they should have gotten a lawyer if they were so sceptical. He's not in jail and thats because its a contract dispute that these angry individuals are fighting. It's not his fault people are nieve to the entertainment business honestly.

The only people that are naive to the business (and don't know how to spell it) seem to be people that feel this is how a legitimate business operates.

Sep 22 13 07:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Light and Lens Studio
Posts: 1,289
Sisters, Oregon, US


There's a sucker born every minute...... P.T Barnum

The expectation of "Getting Rich Quick" (and with little or no effort) that prevails in our society makes life much easier for scammers and ripoff artists.
Sep 22 13 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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