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Seriously? Where are the "natural" models?
I'm a natural photographer. naturally AWESOME, that is. w00t TOP OF THE PAGE. May 04 13 07:41 pm Link and by natural, do you mean she dosent change how she acts for you? doesnt dress up for you? doesnt do anything different than the norm for you? Please be a bit more specific. Birth is natural, death is natural. You left this topic wide open. Not every llama designs themselves to the nines. May 04 13 10:38 pm Link Perhaps it's because most agencies advertise for 18 to 25 year olds. Only recently have some of the major department stores realized that the baby boomers are the most significant spenders (although there are those who will argue that the teens have more money than they know what to do with). Until the system changes it will be difficult for those mature women, unless you have the actress notoriety. It does change, but it changes slowly. For a while the twiggy look, destroyed the careers of many models, and killed a few besides. That finally changed. So where is the system heading now? Nathine May 05 13 08:24 am Link Eliza C wrote: I would have to indicate I have received no flak - Yet. Could be coming now or maybe I'm old but not natural. May 05 13 04:31 pm Link MnPhoto wrote: I'm just three years and a couple weeks away! May 05 13 04:35 pm Link How much of a market is there for models past their mid to late 40's? Just my opinion; but unless a person takes exceptionally good care of their body as they get older, AND has great genetics to keep their skin looking young, there's not really a high demand "older" models on this site. Most especially for paid gigs. If somehow all the glam, art and fashion photographers suddenly decided they have this insatiable desire to shoot "naturally" greying women who are 50+ years old, then I could see more women in that age group flocking to this site. In fact, if someone created a site called "Bald Fat Bearded Cargo-short-wearing Mayhem", where there was high demand to see and pay naked doughy men between the ages of 25 and 73 to pose, then I'm guessing we'd lose most of the photographers here to it. From what I see, few women feel comfortable enough to model nude past their 40's. Even fewer feel confident enough to model fashion. Therefore, the biggest market for older women would be commercial work. We don't see a lot of that type of work here on this site, but we do see it in magazine advertising and TV commercials (i.e. Depends, Polydent, Life Alert, etc, and the ever popular "Mom, can I talk to you about that 'unfresh' feeling" Massengill). So, if you (OP) want to work with more "natural" women, then I'd say try contacting some of the talent agencies that hire for commercial work instead of looking for them here. May 05 13 04:52 pm Link JessieLeigh wrote: So did I, (maybe about hair/body hair, or self tanning...) May 05 13 05:00 pm Link I think the idea that llamaling is only about a certain age or look or height or size is not consistent either with the work out there in the real world or even on MM. There are some older llamas who have now posted in this thread for example. Also I think while some photographers assume that the vast majority of work for llamas is in fashion etc that is neither born out by jobs in the real world or even MM castings. But I don't suppose they are looking at llamaling castings. I look most weeks and there are often calls for older llamas and frequently they pay well. Here is an example today: https://www.modelmayhem.com/casting/176 … ion=Search May 06 13 08:57 am Link Eliza C wrote: Of course there are older models and some of them are very beautiful and accomplished. May 06 13 09:06 am Link MnPhoto wrote: Because there's much less demand. May 06 13 09:10 am Link -B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote: But a cursory look at tv and commercial ads in lifestyle mags and newspapers and on posters advertising services and products not related to fashion shows the demand is far from exclusively for beautiful young women. This is why character modelling agencies are enjoying something of a boom. May 06 13 09:35 am Link Eliza C wrote: We're talking about MODEL MAYHEM here Eliza, not over 50 pension plans! May 06 13 09:36 am Link -B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote: Look at the casting I posted above. There are frequently good paid castings for older/character/outsize/petite models. And if a commercial client approached you wanting a shot of a happy retired couple for their product where would you cast it? At least some cast here and at least some older models are here. The only thing stopping there being more is the narrow perception of what modelling is. Because there isn't any shortage of work for such models based on the recounted experiences of several I sometimes worked with during my time in London. Even in fashion you have the substantial mother of the bride market. May 06 13 09:42 am Link May 07 13 03:09 pm Link |
