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Model
MdivaC
Posts: 45
Jamestown, New York, US


Since I have very long hair, I've always had artists who did different things with it-- but almost every time, they use a lot of heat that damages and ultimately makes it break and fall out in pieces. My hair is my own art piece, as I look at it, and it's my personal choice to keep it so long, but sometimes when you're working with an artist with a specific vision, they don't really care about you as a person and they start using you as more of a canvas to paint on, damage and take for granted.

Do you avoid working with models with long hair, just because of the hassle dealing with it? Or do you go out of your way to make it an art piece?

And to models, do you have any rules with your hair? Is there anything an artist did with your hair that you couldn't stand or was just very difficult to get back to normal? Or do you just not care and you open yourself up as a canvas for the artist to do as they wish with?
Jun 04 13 08:56 am  Link  Quote 
Model
allison mindy
Posts: 1,493
New York, New York, US


I often get hired for my long hair, so I don't think it will be an issue for you. There is always the option of wigs if they want you in shorter hair.

I refuse to do hair shows or anything where my hair will be cut or colored. I would say though as a model you need to be ok with getting your hair styled. Yea this may cause some damage, but buy a deep conditioner and you will be fine. smile
Jun 04 13 09:01 am  Link  Quote 
Model
allison mindy
Posts: 1,493
New York, New York, US


allison mindy wrote:
I get hired for my long hair, so I don't think it will be an issue for you. There is always the option of wigs if they want you in shorter hair.

I refuse to do hair shows or anything where my hair will be cut or colored. I would say though as a model you need to be ok with getting your hair styled. Yea this may cause some damage, but buy a deep conditioner and you will be fine. smile

EDIT: I've never had a stylist do so much damage that my hair started falling out (and I have super duper fine hair). You must be working with some pretty inexperienced people. Not sure what to tell you aout that hmm

Jun 04 13 09:03 am  Link  Quote 
Model
MdivaC
Posts: 45
Jamestown, New York, US


allison mindy wrote:
I often get hired for my long hair, so I don't think it will be an issue for you. There is always the option of wigs if they want you in shorter hair.

I refuse to do hair shows or anything where my hair will be cut or colored. I would say though as a model you need to be ok with getting your hair styled. Yea this may cause some damage, but buy a deep conditioner and you will be fine. smile

I have the same rule, no cutting or dying. It took me years to get this white hair.

Jun 04 13 09:05 am  Link  Quote 
Model
allison mindy
Posts: 1,493
New York, New York, US


MdivaC wrote:

I have the same rule, no cutting or dying. It took me years to get this white hair.

It's lovely. I adore white hair! smile

Jun 04 13 09:07 am  Link  Quote 
Model
MdivaC
Posts: 45
Jamestown, New York, US


allison mindy wrote:

It's lovely. I adore white hair! smile

Thank you smile it's tapered. I don't cut the ends when I grow it out so it grows to a point. Some breakage is expected, but I know how my hair works and even though it's very thick, if you use enough heat and product, it can just fall out. I recently did a shoot where my hair was curled and hair-sprayed to the point where I had to take a very long shower afterwords just to get all that crap out of it. I much prefer when it's just left alone, honestly.

Jun 04 13 09:15 am  Link  Quote 
Model
amb300
Posts: 218
Murfreesboro, Tennessee, US


Jun 09 13 01:46 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ShannonJennings MUA
Posts: 118
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia


I like working with (naturally, not extensions..ick) long hair a lot. It's fun to play around with braids, texture & volume. The trouble is finding long hair that's in adequate condition, most naturally long haired models I have worked with don't trim or treat nearly often enough.

I always take the utmost care when dealing with models hair especially when using heat. I know how much time & money goes into my own hair & I'd be pretty upset to have it wrecked for the sake of a photograph.

But product buildup is always going to be a part of the job IMHO. In my avatar so much product was used (I wouldn't have needed so much but the models hairstyle was very feathered & damaged archiving a slick look would have been impossible without it) that when I released her ponytail the hair stuck to my hand! Take a long shower or bath, use a detoxifying shampoo & treat yourself to a hair mask. No harm, no foul.
Jun 09 13 02:30 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Thomas Van Dyke
Posts: 1,428
Washington, District of Columbia, US


MdivaC wrote:
...make it an art piece?

+1 This...  a tenured lens person can capture lengthy tresses without need of thermal styling...

http://www.restonstudio.com/gallery/Fgallery32-3.jpg

MdivaC wrote:
And to models, do you have any rules with your hair? Is there anything an artist did with your hair that you couldn't stand or was just very difficult to get back to normal? Or do you just not care and you open yourself up as a canvas for the artist to do as they wish with?

If you are working for recompense you have little to say about a narrative... that is decided by the art director; creative director and/or the hair stylist on the session... That said, you can always turn down an assignment, albeit you best have a compelling reason to provide your agency booker...

btw, the very worst I've had personal knowledge of in the industry was a hair stylist who root teased one of my colleague's hair so extensively it took her three days of frustration and finally professional help to untangle it... I declined to ever book that stylist again, even though he is agency represented...

Yes heat tools used improperly can/will damage the hair's shaft however if you work with a licensed cosmetologist with tenure in thermal styling that is unlikely to occur...

all the best on your journey...

Jun 09 13 04:47 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
LoveColor
Posts: 36
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


Bring a heat protecting spray with you just in case they don't have one with them (they should!) and politely insist that you need it if hot tools are going to touch your hair.
Jun 09 13 08:21 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Miss Photog
Posts: 287
VALLEY VILLAGE, California, US


as a photographer, I love long hair.

as a model, I have long hair-longer and fuller than yours. obviously cutting it is not an option unless it was a very very well paid gig. haha.
but getting your hair done and teased and all of that crap is part of being a model. usually I just condition it well after a major teasing session. I have seen models insist on not having their hair backcombed or teased or having certain things done to it while at a shoot/fashion show and it's ruined the uniformity of the shoot/show-very unprofessional. so if you have limits to what you want done to your hair, just make sure you tell people ahead of time and not wait until you're actually at the shoot.
Jun 09 13 08:32 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Linda Chudomelova
Posts: 133
Prague, Prague, Czech Republic


Miss Photog wrote:
so if you have limits to what you want done to your hair, just make sure you tell people ahead of time and not wait until you're actually at the shoot.

^This. Everything can be worked around or adjusted (even if it sometimes includes hiring another model), but telling people when you're at the shoot that you don't want this and that just stinks of diva drama and nobody wants that.

As to what I usually do with long hair - I do what the shoot, the editor, the photographer call for, simple as that. Sometimes that is an updo, sometimes that's a romantic braid, sometimes it's ringlets...

Jun 09 13 10:17 am  Link  Quote 
Model
amb300
Posts: 218
Murfreesboro, Tennessee, US


Jun 09 13 11:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Thomas Van Dyke
Posts: 1,428
Washington, District of Columbia, US


amb300 wrote:
Well, you can specify them not to cut your hair.

Limits for agency talent generally is at cut/color  These are negotiated at a one by one bases... you'll notice a significant number of casting by Hair Stylist looking to do the aforementioned... they have a challenge finding talent to except this type of hair mod no matter what the recompense... Might keep in mind your agency booker isn't going to place you in harms way i.e. cause you to loose worth/value for use on their board...   

amb300 wrote:
...It looks good without product...

What looks good to you is actually of little relevance to the AD on the session... If you are the client i.e. paying for the team/studio/location venue etc than yes you call the game otherwise your perceive aesthetic doesn't play into the mix...

That said, I appreciate the risk inherent in coloring agents... that is why it is so important to collaborate with licensed/tenured professionals if you should actually decide to accept an assignment which mandates working with a colorist on the session...

hope this helps...

Jun 09 13 04:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
amb300
Posts: 218
Murfreesboro, Tennessee, US


Jun 10 13 04:36 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
ArtistryImage
Posts: 2,700
Washington, District of Columbia, US


amb300 wrote:
... I really don't care about money...

amb300 this is an Mayhem Tier 3 Industry Forum... focus is typically on these who do care about recompense... for many stylist their craft is a major source of revenue... might keep this in mind...

all the best on your journey...

Jun 10 13 04:49 am  Link  Quote 
Model
amb300
Posts: 218
Murfreesboro, Tennessee, US


Jun 11 13 04:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DG at studio47
Posts: 2,361
East Ridge, Tennessee, US


https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos- … 7265_n.jpg

leaf blower, model lying down with hair fanned out, use long hair to wrap around models head like a mask, fill hair with organic and odd objects?, etc..........check my FB link for other "hair" ideas. best wishes OP.
Jun 11 13 04:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Northern Lights Images
Posts: 264
Boston, Massachusetts, US


i love long hair, my avatar was taken last week and the model has super fine long hair, as a guy I have never realized how important a brush is during a shoot with no MUA.
Jun 11 13 04:57 am  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
Danielle _ M
Posts: 184
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Your hair is so processed with colour that any styling to your hair will damage it.

You will have to ask hairstylists that they not use heat tools on your hair or a lot of back combing
This may also reduce the amount of work that will come your way.

I think the suggestion of wigs or hair pieces maybe be the only way that you can protect your hair but still allow creativity for the hairstylists
Jun 11 13 07:03 am  Link  Quote 
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