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T honey
Posts: 4
Los Angeles, California, US


Hello,

I have a few question. Can anybody help me PLEASE ?


question ( this question refer to tv and film set)
1) i have a question who should i ask? what should i do if director are busy but i have a question?
- question about makeup ( concept )
- question about direction of shoot ( example : they will be shooting on this part of actrss or not ) in my case they were shooting the back of the actress and i want to make sure wherethere or not they will shoot the front as well so i can get her touch up and fix her face)

2) what AD really do beside assist director? Will he work closer to us as a communicatiom between i and director?

3) i told AD to call me in for last look as i will be doing makeup in the other room while they rehersal and setting the light but he didnt call me... what should i do?

4) Do i nessesary to be on the set while they shooting the whole time? i dont want to bother them but i also dont want makeup to come out bad... Shiny ... etc? Where are you usually stand? watching monitor or just check in time to time are god enough.

5) while they are shooting ( one after the other take ) but makeup start to get shiny. Do i need to ask for touch up?  what should i say? How often u usually touch up for a scene.

6) Please suggestion me if there is only one makeup artist but few people that need makeup to be done. How can i manage a time to do both makeup and be on the shooting room? i dont want them to wait for me for makeup to be done but i also i want to make sure makeup on another talent that they are shooting are good.

7) Is it ok to have a little shine on the face

8) for kid makeup. Do i need to use anything beside blush and lip? to keep they fresh

9) for men to make them look as natural. Should i use foundation or just a powder is good enough?

10) How do you do a dot for green screene? does it need to be level in both side right and left ( example : if they need a dot for 6 pack? what about a dot on the face for movement?  )

11) Who usually hire you for job on movie and film? in my case was a producer? we agreed with only 5 makeup but then AD2 kept sent people in for me to do makeup and AD1 kept sent people for me to do hair ..... WHATS AD1/2 REALLY DO IN TERM OF INVOLE with us?

12) lady who hired me asking me a favor like ...  Oh i know i didnt tell you this but can you do that? can you do this? which i dont mind help but i just want to think in term of business should i have a limit for myself and it it over then have to set a new price. OR should i do as a favor for a business relation ?
Sep 23 13 02:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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TheMakeupMan
Posts: 3,748
Los Angeles, California, US


Thi3ati wrote:
Hello,

I have a few question. Can anybody help me PLEASE ?


question ( this question refer to tv and film set)
1) i have a question who should i ask? what should i do if director are busy but i have a question?
- question about makeup ( concept )
- question about direction of shoot ( example : they will be shooting on this part of actrss or not ) in my case they were shooting the back of the actress and i want to make sure wherethere or not they will shoot the front as well so i can get her touch up and fix her face)

Talk to the producer and or the AD, if its important enough of a question they will get the directors attention


2) what AD really do beside assist director? Will he work closer to us as a communicatiom between i and director?

the second AD will 

3) i told AD to call me in for last look as i will be doing makeup in the other room while they rehersal and setting the light but he didnt call me... what should i do?

Ask again ,   could you please give me last looks , also get an assistant



4) Do i nessesary to be on the set while they shooting the whole time? i dont want to bother them but i also dont want makeup to come out bad... Shiny ... etc? Where are you usually stand? watching monitor or just check in time to time are god enough.

yes someone should be on set always , at least on my jobs some is ........,

Stand Wherever you are not in the way , yes the monitor or by sound or VTR as they will have a mini monitor


5) while they are shooting ( one after the other take ) but makeup start to get shiny. Do i need to ask for touch up?  what should i say? How often u usually touch up for a scene.

as often as needed but dont be a pain in the ass , sometimes you can sneak in while the shot is being set up or lit , learn to pick and choose your battles well , your job is to do your job and be on it but also to be invisible as to not distract from the director or other people working

6) Please suggestion me if there is only one makeup artist but few people that need makeup to be done. How can i manage a time to do both makeup and be on the shooting room? i dont want them to wait for me for makeup to be done but i also i want to make sure makeup on another talent that they are shooting are good.

you should work that out with the second AD   everyone should be done before if there is only one makeup person but its also understood if there is only one you cant be in 2 places at the same time

7) Is it ok to have a little shine on the face

I dont know ........ is it ?  its your movie ..... is that what the look requires ? is it film , hi def , ect ect

8) for kid makeup. Do i need to use anything beside blush and lip? to keep they fresh

I dont do any makeup on kids unless its requested , makeup spoils the look of youth on an already young actor

9) for men to make them look as natural. Should i use foundation or just a powder is good enough?

use what is needed .......

10) How do you do a dot for green screene? does it need to be level in both side right and left ( example : if they need a dot for 6 pack? what about a dot on the face for movement?  )

ask the FX guy whos giving you the dots where he wants them

11) Who usually hire you for job on movie and film? in my case was a producer? we agreed with only 5 makeup but then AD2 kept sent people in for me to do makeup and AD1 kept sent people for me to do hair ..... WHATS AD1/2 REALLY DO IN TERM OF INVOLE with us?

wow   your really new ...........

12) lady who hired me asking me a favor like ...  Oh i know i didnt tell you this but can you do that? can you do this? which i dont mind help but i just want to think in term of business should i have a limit for myself and it it over then have to set a new price. OR should i do as a favor for a business relation ?

up to you to decide when your being nice and when someone is taking advantage of you

Sep 23 13 05:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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T honey
Posts: 4
Los Angeles, California, US


Thanks Anthony (makeup man) I am really appreciated this! I am new to the country and business here. im still learning and gain experience. Your answer is very helpful to me.
Sep 24 13 08:08 am  Link  Quote 
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TheMakeupMan
Posts: 3,748
Los Angeles, California, US


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Sep 24 13 09:35 am  Link  Quote 
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Makeup Hair by Dani B
Posts: 720
Seattle, Washington, US


I don't disagree with anything Anthony said above, but just want to add to it.

It's clear from your questions that you are just beginning to work. There is a fine line that we dance on sets, especially film sets, between trying to please everyone and trying to do our jobs well. Often, because of circumstances (schedule, where the day's shots are happening, etc.), personalities, and those unexpected things that happen every day, we are forced to make decisions and choose things we might not choose if we were making our decisions simply based on wanting to do our jobs well. We just have to do the best job possible while pleasing people beginning with those at the top of the heap and working our way down. So making peace with that idea will help ground you.

YOUR personality on set will have the biggest impact on your work. Not your talent. Many talented artists are not hired because of this. If you can remain calm, focused, positive, energetic, etc. on even the crappiest days, you will keep working. It may not sound fair, but it's the way it is. The day WILL come when you will be torn to shreds by a director, actor, AD, producer, etc., perhaps for something that isn't your fault, and how you respond is very important. Focus on fixing the problem as quickly as you can.

Best tools in every artist's kit: humility and a sense of humor. Best of luck to you!
Sep 24 13 10:40 am  Link  Quote 
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chart
Posts: 2,363
Los Angeles, California, US


nothing to add just wanted to say that you asked really fantastic questions and anyone thinking about getting into the TV world should keep this post handy....
Sep 24 13 10:56 am  Link  Quote 
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Leonard Gee Photography
Posts: 16,081
Sacramento, California, US


Thi3ati wrote:
1) i have a question who should i ask? what should i do if director are busy but i have a question?
- question about makeup ( concept )
- question about direction of shoot ( example : they will be shooting on this part of actrss or not ) in my case they were shooting the back of the actress and i want to make sure wherethere or not they will shoot the front as well so i can get her touch up and fix her face)

Pre-production meetings are very important. If there isn't one, you need to bring it up before the job date. It also will give you clues about how the crew interacts and what the power structure is like. Some directors like direct questions, others prefer the chain of command. That will also change depending on the crew as a whole.

Timing, chain of command and set awareness is important on a busy set.

Thi3ati wrote:
2) what AD really do beside assist director? Will he work closer to us as a communicatiom between i and director?

The 1st AD determines the scene grouping, schedules the shoot dates, prepares the call sheets, everything that pulls the different departments and talent together.

Thi3ati wrote:
3) i told AD to call me in for last look as i will be doing makeup in the other room while they rehersal and setting the light but he didnt call me... what should i do?

You remind them quickly. Also, set awareness. You know you need to do last look. Occasionally take a quick check to see how close they are and be ready if they are almost ready. Eventually, over time, you get a better feel of how long the setup will take.

Thi3ati wrote:
4) Do i nessesary to be on the set while they shooting the whole time? i dont want to bother them but i also dont want makeup to come out bad... Shiny ... etc? Where are you usually stand? watching monitor or just check in time to time are god enough.

Every shot is different. Pre-production meeting and set awareness. You should be out of the way, but close enough to get in and out quick when needed. Near a monitor is nice, but you learn to know the lighting and the DP after a while.

Thi3ati wrote:
5) while they are shooting ( one after the other take ) but makeup start to get shiny. Do i need to ask for touch up?  what should i say? How often u usually touch up for a scene.

If they are rushed for time and doing back to back takes, tricky. How bad is it? Is the natural light going away? Will it ruin the shot? Will there be a natural break in the work flow? Much easier on a controlled stage and slower work flow. It depends. Ask, and be quick.

Thi3ati wrote:
6) Please suggestion me if there is only one makeup artist but few people that need makeup to be done. How can i manage a time to do both makeup and be on the shooting room? i dont want them to wait for me for makeup to be done but i also i want to make sure makeup on another talent that they are shooting are good.

Pre-production meeting (sound familiar?). Express concerns and plan the call times with AD. Multi-tasking and doing quick, good work is key.

Thi3ati wrote:
7) Is it ok to have a little shine on the face

Pre-production meeting. Understand the look needed. Ask questions there.

Thi3ati wrote:
8) for kid makeup. Do i need to use anything beside blush and lip? to keep they fresh

Pre-production question, depends on film. Some require much more.

Thi3ati wrote:
9) for men to make them look as natural. Should i use foundation or just a powder is good enough?

Depends on look required and the face condition. You discussed and  planned for just powder, actor shows up with problem skin. Opps. See "pre-production".


Thi3ati wrote:
11) Who usually hire you for job on movie and film? in my case was a producer? we agreed with only 5 makeup but then AD2 kept sent people in for me to do makeup and AD1 kept sent people for me to do hair ..... WHATS AD1/2 REALLY DO IN TERM OF INVOLE with us?

Varies. Depends on production structure. Producer or Director. Sometimes talent has special request past up to producer.

Thi3ati wrote:
12) lady who hired me asking me a favor like ...  Oh i know i didnt tell you this but can you do that? can you do this? which i dont mind help but i just want to think in term of business should i have a limit for myself and it it over then have to set a new price. OR should i do as a favor for a business relation ?

There are standard important question that must always be answered for every single job. That includes the job requirements and limits. If you miss any of these questions going into a job, it can cause problems. That's why I always double check my mental list. When all the answers are known, I ALWAYS send a confirmation e-mail.

For this job, we discussed and agreed on this:

1.
2.
3.

Changes and differences are made at your discretion. Occasional change, maybe. Adding too many changes and doubling your work - probably need to bring up concerns ASAP.

Sep 24 13 01:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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David M Russell
Posts: 1,085
New York, New York, US


I can only answer your set etiquette questions.

The First AD is like the sargeant that runs the production. S/he should know enough to call for last looks just before they roll cameras.

If they don't, it's okay to tell the 1AD that you need to quickly pop in to do last looks. In almost every case, they'll hold the roll for you.

Work as quickly and efficiently as you can. Feel free to tell the 1AD if there's a problem you need to address, but if it happens too often the entire crew will get annoyed, and probably the cast too.

Stay on set. Be in video village or, if that's not possible, ask for a monitor so you can see how people look on camera. It's your responsibility to keep your eyes open for problems all the time.

Good luck!
Sep 24 13 02:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
T honey
Posts: 4
Los Angeles, California, US


Thanks Dani, Chart , Leonard , David! It is very helpful and give me a better picture. I am truly aprricated smile
Sep 24 13 08:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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CMaquillage
Posts: 487
New York, New York, US


might I suggest this link

http://www.nyc.gov/html/film/html/jobs_ … ides.shtml

may I ask what this job is ?
Oct 06 13 01:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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