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Model
Denice Lindeman
Posts: 3
Brunssum, Limburg, Netherlands


Hello everyone,

i have search on the internet for a long time!
and i havent found it yet...
so i hope u guys can help me out, to give me a link to a tutorial or explaining here.
i am searching for a tutorial of a second skin/ second body/ clothing like its skin.

like this one:  ^^

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DDFB2ObaK5g/T … _1_468.jpg



sorry if my english is not that good smile
Oct 28 13 03:34 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Zeljko Naic
Posts: 14
Belgrade, Central Serbia, Serbia


I would say this is a composite image using one shot with clothing and other without. Pose of the model on both images should be the same as much as possible. Than retoucher can eliminate most of the clothing. Other possibility is to add the clothing piece by piece, and to illustrate what's missing. A third way would be to combine 3D graphics and photography.
Oct 28 13 05:09 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
jl-graphism
Posts: 43
Paris, Île-de-France, France


Oct 28 13 05:19 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Denice Lindeman
Posts: 3
Brunssum, Limburg, Netherlands


well then is my next question, how do you fill up a selection with a another (picture)??
because if i look to the images than is see, that they filled up the shirt again with his body from te picture before.
SOoo, how do you do it fill up and still see de details from the shirt??

this is what i am trying to do:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ … 7211_o.jpg

i am practicing ^^
Oct 28 13 07:44 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Natalia_Taffarel
Posts: 7,665
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


Denice Lindeman wrote:
well then is my next question, how do you fill up a selection with a another (picture)??
because if i look to the images than is see, that they filled up the shirt again with his body from te picture before.
SOoo, how do you do it fill up and still see de details from the shirt??

this is what i am trying to do:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ … 7211_o.jpg

i am practicing ^^

Look up masking - Bert Monroy has great tutorial videos for beginners on masking and advance masking.

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Oct 28 13 08:23 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Five Retouching
Posts: 51
Des Moines, Iowa, US


Denice Lindeman wrote:
well then is my next question, how do you fill up a selection with a another (picture)??
because if i look to the images than is see, that they filled up the shirt again with his body from te picture before.
SOoo, how do you do it fill up and still see de details from the shirt??

this is what i am trying to do:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ … 7211_o.jpg

i am practicing ^^

Those are really cool. I'll have to give something like that a shot sometime, looks like a lot of fun.

Oct 28 13 01:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
cwwmbm
Posts: 442
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


I've done similar (albeit simplified) version of it in the past
http://andreyapopov.com/admin/uploads/a … 3_temp.jpg

It's nothing else but a lot of retouching, masking and a good make up.
Oct 28 13 07:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
drrdh
Posts: 42
Jesup, Georgia, US


I suspect that the illusion is created simply by careful shadowing.  No need for compositing. Just create the edges of the top layer of skin by painting in shadows and then paint the holes and lace in.

Ronny
Oct 31 13 01:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ruben Sanchez
Posts: 3,482
San Antonio, Texas, US


Denice Lindeman wrote:
well then is my next question, how do you fill up a selection with a another (picture)??
because if i look to the images than is see, that they filled up the shirt again with his body from te picture before.
SOoo, how do you do it fill up and still see de details from the shirt??

this is what i am trying to do:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ … 7211_o.jpg

i am practicing ^^

Oct 31 13 02:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Randall
Posts: 13,842
Chicago, Illinois, US


If I were doing this, I would put the camera on a tripod, and I would photograph the model in position wearing whatever type of garment it takes to make that lace up. Then, I would photograph her nude, while in the same position as the clothed image.

I would make sure her arms and body were in the same relative position by critical placement of C stands at the elbows, which she would rest her arms on, and markings on the floor for her feet. The position of the hands would be determined by the garment, and wouldn’t be critical in the composite, as long as the arms from the nude image met the wrists of the clothed image.

I would outline the laces and the eyelets for one mask, and I would outline the opening of the garment, which would reveal the shadows on the skin. I might pick up the cast shadows from the eyelets and lower lacing from the original photograph, or I might make my own shadows in post. That would depend on the level of texture in the garment.

I would probably use the dimension of the garment edges to create depth on the skin edge, simply by blurring away the texture in a mask on a curve layer.

The more texture in the garment, the more difficult the blends would be. If you have a choice in garments, you should opt for the smoother garment.

Your final masks should look something like this…

http://www.robert-randall.com/MM/SkinCorsett/skinmask1.jpg

http://www.robert-randall.com/MM/SkinCorsett/skinmask2.jpg


I’m sure there are a lot of different ways to accomplish this task; this is simply the way I would do it. It’s not the right way, and it’s not the wrong way.


Edit... I didn't put a mask in for the hands, I assumed that one would be understood.
Oct 31 13 02:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ruben Sanchez
Posts: 3,482
San Antonio, Texas, US


Ruben Sanchez wrote:

this is what i am trying to do:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ … 7211_o.jpg

Ah, if you look at the photo on the left, you can see a little bit of the seam, where the original lacing was layered on top of the actual skin.  You just need to learn how to replace the existing color on top, with the color of the skin on the body. 

Me, I think I would do it with a layer mask, and then just paint in the detail beneath.  I'm thinking it would take an hour or so to do a good mask.

Here's a good 7 minute tutorial, that I think would make it simple for you to learn and apply to what you're trying to do.  Good luck.   Sorry about the previous post.  Forgot the add the info.

Oct 31 13 03:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
drrdh
Posts: 42
Jesup, Georgia, US


Sticking with original image linked by Denice (OP), I feel that the basic idea of creating a second layer of skin is achieved by shadowing.  The image below is the original image with my poorly attempted proof of concept over her right shoulder blade. The other images linked in this thread, of course, are more complex and have flowers, and/or fabric composited in. 

http://www.pbase.com/rdharris/image/153 … iginal.jpg

Ronny
Oct 31 13 03:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Denice Lindeman
Posts: 3
Brunssum, Limburg, Netherlands


Hi everyone!,
this is my result for the first time wink!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ … 8356_o.jpg
Nov 06 13 05:11 am  Link  Quote 
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