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Photographer

Laura Elizabeth Photo

Posts: 2253

Rochester, New York, US

So I'm a photographer (duh) and I do mostly beauty work with my models so naturally makeup is a big part of that.  My looks can vary from really complex to soft and simplistic. 

This is all well and good but I honestly hate hiring a MUA for most of my shoots because they're not intended for publication and most of the time I can do the makeup myself and still have it look decent (or if it isn't prefect I can touch it up a bit in photoshop).  For example probably about 75% of the makeup in my port was done by me. 

That and there's only 2 MUA's that I really like in the area, one is only available on weekends and the other lives 45 minutes away and doesn't have a car hmm It just makes it more complicated to work with a MUA for something simplistic that I'm just shooting for a test or for fun.

So anyway to the point, I've been thinking about getting the MUFE flash pallette and a decent brush set to kinda help cover all the general needs when it comes to makeup.  I'm very much a painter so the idea of mixing color sounds awesome to me.  Plus I wanna avoid having to buy tons and tons of product for different looks/colors.  And naturally if there's something I really can't do with the pallete I'll hire a MUA.

It costs quite a bit though, and as a photographer I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to invest in a more advanced pallete hmm  Thoughts/ideas on what I should do?

Apr 01 14 07:45 am Link

Hair Stylist

rick lesser

Posts: 1116

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Have you considered driving to the makeup artist who is 45 min away?  Think of it as a location shoot.  I have a lot of photographers come to me.  I live in an urban area with lots of shoot options.  Gives them a different perspective.  And gets them out of their comfort zone.  Don't discount the power of hair and makeup.  Maybe look into a salon near you and offer a trade for their services for some images they can use?  Each time you work with an artist could be a good learning experience for you to pick up pointers.  Don't worry about investing in a lot of makeup.  Build a kit slowly.  Hit your local beauty supply store and check for discontinued products.  Brushes from an art supply store are a great option and cheaper.  R-

Apr 01 14 01:38 pm Link

Photographer

Laura Elizabeth Photo

Posts: 2253

Rochester, New York, US

rick lesser wrote:
Have you considered driving to the makeup artist who is 45 min away?  Think of it as a location shoot.  I have a lot of photographers come to me.  I live in an urban area with lots of shoot options.  Gives them a different perspective.  And gets them out of their comfort zone.  Don't discount the power of hair and makeup.  Maybe look into a salon near you and offer a trade for their services for some images they can use?  Each time you work with an artist could be a good learning experience for you to pick up pointers.  Don't worry about investing in a lot of makeup.  Build a kit slowly.  Hit your local beauty supply store and check for discontinued products.  Brushes from an art supply store are a great option and cheaper.  R-

That makeup artist basically lives in the boonies so there really isn't much out there other than fields and farm land.  Even if we did shoot outside in the woods or something I tend to give my more classic fashion shoots simple makeup, which I can easily do myself, I save my crazy makeup for the studio.

I totally try to book hairstylist when I need them but often I'll just need a models hair naturally straight, curled or pulled back because it's a test and that I can do on my own and most stylists don't need those kinda looks for the port (for example the girl with the blonde wavy updo, her hair was done by a stylist)

I will try contacting local stylists though that's great advice, I did just go to a local fashion show that had beautiful hair and makeup so many I'll be able to find people to work with through there.

Thanks!

Apr 01 14 02:10 pm Link

Photographer

S de Varax

Posts: 7313

London, England, United Kingdom

You're going to need more than the MUFE flash palette and it only offers one type of finish even though you can mix the colours.
Mary's site sells a basic makeup kit- but in general you'll need a selection of foundation shades (mix and match for different skintones), a neutral and colour eyeshadow palettes (Yaby might be a good choice for this), concealer shades, blush and lipstick shades, disposables etc the list goes on. some products can double up for contour/highlight, some eyeshadows can be used as eyeliners, and you can possible use the model's own mascara, unless you're shooting male models who are unlikely to have one.

Apr 05 14 12:48 pm Link

Photographer

KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

I'd start with a basic foundation palette first not a flash palette. I would also read up on KJB's website inmykit.com. Compares products and can save you a lot of money in the long run.

I look things up on there and then go to CRC first and see what they have -- they have great prices for professionals and you can get product shipped right to your door.

An invaluable source when starting a kit. I am lucky to have done trade for a lot of the product in my kit with a manager of a cosmetics store and also received editorial gratis -- My first foundation palette was the Graftobian HD creme foundation Super palette which I purchased from CRC.com.

I have also used Cinema Secrets and I know a lot of people swear by the RCMA foundation palette as well.

Your beauty work is really good -- maybe you could look into getting additional product by mentioning some product lines in some published beauty editorials and getting some gratis.

Most of my kit was built from trade and editorial gratis.

As far as eyeshadow palettes go I LOVE my yaby world of pearl paints palette. So many colors and great pigment.

Some people think it's expensive but I think it's a great value.

http://camerareadycosmetics.com/product … lette.html

Apr 05 14 01:45 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Dana Faces

Posts: 22

Nashville, Tennessee, US

If you're going to do makeup yourself, I would recommend learning sanitation procedures before you start. They're reallllllly important when working on multiple faces even if it's not on the same day. Having the models bring their own mascara is a great idea.

Also- you'll want to buy some foundations palettes, a surface to mix everything, palette knife, sponges, and loose powders. I could go on but it doesn't sound that you're interested in pursing makeup professionally.

Apr 05 14 02:01 pm Link

Photographer

KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Dana Faces wrote:
If you're going to do makeup yourself, I would recommend learning sanitation procedures before you start. They're reallllllly important when working on multiple faces even if it's not on the same day. Having the models bring their own mascara is a great idea.

Also- you'll want to buy some foundations palettes, a surface to mix everything, palette knife, sponges, and loose powders. I could go on but it doesn't sound that you're interested in pursing makeup professionally.

I should reiterate I did take classes ( and got certified for whatever that is worth lol).

Also had been watching MUA's work for years but sanitation is so important. I did invest in a palette knife and some of my palettes actually have built in palettes as well.

I love my beauty blenders -- and I always want more brushes. I would invest in disposable spoolies and lippies ) but I prefer a lip brush myself.

Also since I came from a fine arts and a painting background I found custom mixing foundations and matching skin tones to be second nature. Also having a working knowledge of color theory helps which I am sure you have.

Apr 05 14 02:27 pm Link

Photographer

Thomas Van Dyke

Posts: 3233

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Laura Bello wrote:
...I do mostly beauty work...

I enjoyed your commercial portal, yes beauty is elegantly showcased by your squarespace.com layout, very nice indeed...

Laura Bello wrote:
I honestly hate hiring a MUA for most of my shoots because they're not intended for publication and most of the time I can do the makeup myself and still have it look decent (or if it isn't prefect I can touch it up a bit in photoshop).

Laura coming from a print oriented lens person this is totally understandable, that said tenured makeup artists possibly may not cherish this mindset and attitude... While I appreciate your agenda here and congratulate your taking control of your visual statement... much wisdom latent within... would urge you to embrace makeup artistry as more than prep for print... In my humble estimation it is a fine art form that embraces a broad diversity of mediums, events and the like... 

Laura Bello wrote:
...I've been thinking about getting the MUFE flash pallette and a decent brush set to kinda help cover all the general needs when it comes to makeup...

Have to smile smile  btw, have you considered coming out of the gate with a foundation palette? Possibly RCMA or Cinema Secrets...

Laura before you bring a brush to the MUFE Flash Pallette please be aware of it's health risks to clients...
Precautions:
Do not use following colors near the eyes :002 - 005 - 017
Do not use following colors on the lips :003 - 010 - 014

Laura Bello wrote:
Thoughts/ideas on what I should do?

The suggestion above for a CRC starter kit has much wisdom... this has worked well for several my my assistants...

Really great to see another tog embracing the art of makeup... just please don't forget to include the science also... Skin care, sanitation practices etc...

All the best on your journey...

Apr 05 14 04:34 pm Link