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Katherine R

Posts: 27

Spartanburg, South Carolina, US

I have this problem with eye sensitivity every time I shoot outdoors. Do I just tell the photographer to shoot me with my back to the sun, close my eyes and then open them or what? Also when I squint my eyes, I frown and that just ruins the whole photograph. Does anyone have any advice on this?

Apr 04 14 01:49 pm Link

Photographer

Ken D Photography

Posts: 698

Marietta, Ohio, US

For what it's worth, whenever I shoot with a model whose eyes are sensative to light or wind, I have them close their eyes and open them at the count of three. But, then I don't shoot at 8 frames per second. My suggestion is to tell the photographer that your eyes are sensative to light and see what they suggest. smile

Apr 04 14 02:28 pm Link

Model

K I C K H A M

Posts: 14689

Los Angeles, California, US

Telling the photographer how to shoot you might not bode well.

I don't have super sensitive eyes, but I have a few tricks on those very difficult days.

1. If it's way too much, I say, "I'm having trouble keeping my eyes open. Can I have a three count?"

2. I've learned to squint attractively and good closed-eyes poses. Sometimes it's the best you can do, and sometimes it gets great photos.

3. Pay attention to the rhythm. A lot of photographers have it. Click, 2, 3, Click, 2, 3, Click, etc. If you can time your blinks, you can survive it without having to say anything. Some people just shoot rather randomly, though, so it isn't failsafe.

Apr 04 14 02:56 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Ruddick

Posts: 117

London, Ontario, Canada

I had a blinker one time. We just went to a three count and got some great images.

Apr 05 14 08:34 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Lohr

Posts: 510

Los Angeles, California, US

Katherine R wrote:
I have this problem with eye sensitivity every time I shoot outdoors. Do I just tell the photographer to shoot me with my back to the sun, close my eyes and then open them or what? Also when I squint my eyes, I frown and that just ruins the whole photograph. Does anyone have any advice on this?

OK, here is my trick.

Just prior to the shot, close your eye and then look directly into the sun. What ever you do, DO NOT OPEN YOUR EYES.
With your eyes closed look at the sun for about 30-45 seconds.

This will fully dilate your pupils. This should allow you to fully relax once you are back in normal light.

Apr 05 14 08:59 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Lohr

Posts: 510

Los Angeles, California, US

Mark Ruddick wrote:
I had a blinker one time. We just went to a three count and got some great images.

Here is my trick for blinkers.

I had a model that literally blinked on every shot. Thing is, I was using strobe. One can't blink faster than the speed of light. So I finally figured it out. Some models may unconsciously blink on the movement of the trigger finger. The brain figured out that this tiny movement is what is responsible for the big flash of light.

Simple solution. Simply press the finger half way down. Just hard enough to make the blinker blink but not hard enough to trigger the shutter. If you see the person is keying off your finger then keep doing it at a faster and faster rate. The brain will at some point realize that there s a whole lot of blinking for nothing. Once you get it out of the rhythm you should be good to go.
For severe blinkers this may have to be repeated a few times. I would say this works about 80-90 percent of the time.

Apr 05 14 09:11 pm Link

Model

GingerMuse

Posts: 369

STUDIO CITY, California, US

K I C K H A M wrote:
Telling the photographer how to shoot you might not bode well.

I don't have super sensitive eyes, but I have a few tricks on those very difficult days.

1. If it's way too much, I say, "I'm having trouble keeping my eyes open. Can I have a three count?"

2. I've learned to squint attractively and good closed-eyes poses. Sometimes it's the best you can do, and sometimes it gets great photos.

3. Pay attention to the rhythm. A lot of photographers have it. Click, 2, 3, Click, 2, 3, Click, etc. If you can time your blinks, you can survive it without having to say anything. Some people just shoot rather randomly, though, so it isn't failsafe.

Some good advice.
But honestly, I have incredibly sensitive eyes and sometimes even the 1-2-3 eyes open trick doesn't work after a while. It's really the best option though if the photographer doesn't want to move you. When I do photography, I have had people with super sensitive eyes and I always adjust the shot as best as I can to accommodate them. As a photographer, I would want to know if that's an issue; especially ahead of time if we are doing an outdoor shoot.

Apr 05 14 09:19 pm Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

I'm not quite sure how you can tell the photographer this but, quite frankly, having the model look directly into the sun is usually not the best use of the light.  A slight adjustment can usually solve the model's problem and often improve the picture.

I once did a commercial where the director insisted, for some reason, on shooting with the sun directly in my eyes--take after take after take after take, the crew was ready to kill him and so was I.-- I never saw it aired so I assume the client (a major network) rejected it.

But I got paid so it wasn't a total loss.

Apr 07 14 09:11 am Link

Photographer

Sleepy Weasel

Posts: 4839

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I've been doing the 3-count as well when the sun is an issue. Seems to work pretty well. Shooting a high FPS is a good idea (for photographers) I hadn't really considered before.

Apr 07 14 09:20 am Link

Model

No longer active-

Posts: 281

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I usually look away and ask the photographer to count 1,2,3 then take I look. It works for a period of time, same with like jumping shots, hair flipping etc..

Apr 07 14 09:42 am Link

Model

Rockabella

Posts: 588

Bargara, Queensland, Australia

I have very, very sensitive eyes. I usually never plan shoots for the middle of the day due to this. The one experience I have where I had no choice but to plan for the afternoon was probably the worst photoshoot ever. I knew how to 3-count, but this photographer was a student and still learning.. I'm pretty sure he caught me blinking in most of the pictures.
If you're with a pro, this shouldn't happen. My advice to you, is to plan shoots early morning or near dusk if you're going to be outside. Make sure you communicate with the photographer that you have sensitive eyes and if things get too bright, just tell them you need a minute and get your eyes adjusted; tell them you need to 3-count if you have to.

Apr 07 14 12:10 pm Link

Photographer

Jonathan Adler

Posts: 47

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

I tell the model to keep her eyes closed...then open them when I say "ACTION"

Works really well.

Apr 07 14 05:40 pm Link

Photographer

Andre DF

Posts: 10

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Definitely don't TELL the photographer HOW to shoot you, but certainly advise them that you have very sensitive eyes. Before any of that I would recommend you see an optometrist or your family physician just to make sure that your sensitivity isn't a symptom of something that can be made worse by consistent exposure to looking towards the sun or being in the presence of strobes and hot lights. Modeling is great fun but it's not worth your health. If you go blind, I'm fairly certain your modelling career will be limited. You've got some great advice here so far, the 3 count works nicely for some and I've used the closed eyes pointed towards the sun myself, which has also work for some models. Best of luck!

Apr 09 14 10:18 am Link

Model

Love_mya

Posts: 288

Rockbank, Victoria, Australia

I have this condition and get treatment every 3months... there isn't anything else i can about it, but it doesn't effect the shots, sure u do get a few shots where the eyes is closed or half shut, but its no big deal. Those images can be deleted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blepharospasm

I find that the 1,2,3 works and also the eyes shut and open is good too...but no one ever has a problem with it... 

i also find that if i am tired, or un relaxed it causes me to blink more..

Apr 10 14 05:27 pm Link