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Photographer

Leighsphotos

Posts: 3070

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Kate Victoria  wrote:
What's your opinion on this..

I work in a learning centre and I'm looking to do a bachelor of education and teach primary school eventually. Is lingerie modeling therefore a bad idea? I personally don't think it's a problem - the kids wouldn't be looking up that kind of stuff and it's up to their parents to monitor them. But will it jeopardize my education career?

If you have to ask it probably is!

Put yourself in the shoes of a parent. How would you feel about that?

Apr 10 14 11:07 am Link

Model

Rockabella

Posts: 588

Bargara, Queensland, Australia

Yes, it could. Look up Cristy Nicole Deweese. That's a recent nightmare with modeling and the edu shystem. In all seriousness though, it could potentially damage your reputation. If you are to do it make sure it cannot be traced back to you. Use a pseudo name, or for images posted to the internet don't include your face.

Apr 10 14 11:08 am Link

Model

lynne g

Posts: 674

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Amelia Fae wrote:
Yes, it could. Look up Cristy Nicole Deweese. That's a recent nightmare with modeling and the edu shystem. In all seriousness though, it could potentially damage your reputation. If you are to do it make sure it cannot be traced back to you. Use a pseudo name, or for images posted to the internet don't include your face.

That's what I was wondering? Do you have your home town listed? Do you have your real name? Do you have discernible info on your profile? If you work anywhere that has an HR department I can't figure out why you would??? But hey!! To each his own. A photo with someone else's name and address has something called plausible deniability. Your local school district probably doesn't have enough money to budget in a full time nurse. They not well off enough to subpoena your emails and trace back the IP address. So long as you're not "sloppy", just have fun with it

Apr 10 14 05:00 pm Link

Photographer

Viator Defessus Photos

Posts: 1259

Houston, Texas, US

Amelia Fae wrote:
Yes, it could. Look up Cristy Nicole Deweese. That's a recent nightmare with modeling and the edu shystem. In all seriousness though, it could potentially damage your reputation. If you are to do it make sure it cannot be traced back to you. Use a pseudo name, or for images posted to the internet don't include your face.

facial recognition software may one day be the death of anonymity.

Apr 10 14 08:27 pm Link

Photographer

NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

Viator Defessus Photos wrote:
facial recognition software may one day be the death of anonymity.

One day soon.

Apr 10 14 08:33 pm Link

Photographer

Paul Grupp

Posts: 799

Santa Monica, California, US

The answer is: It might.

So the question is: Do you like gambling?

Apr 10 14 11:53 pm Link

Model

Abigail Rose Hill

Posts: 540

Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom

Even if, best case scenario, you COULD keep a teaching job and model/have previously modelled lingerie, you will most likely have to deal with a lot of judgemental people being assholes about it if they find out. A lot would also depend on the type of lingerie being shot - modest, fashiony type images? not much of a big deal. Glamour? you'd be more likely to land in hot water.

If I were a parent, so long as the two careers were absolutely kept separate and your professionalism in the classroom was top notch, it wouldn't really bother me. But then, I know the industry and I know the distinction between modelling lingerie in a fashion sense, and glamour modelling. Not all people do.

Personally, if it were me, I'd probably choose between the two just to be on the safe side, but it is entirely your decision.

Apr 11 14 04:11 am Link

Model

Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

Yes and well, can't escape it.

http://www.facefirst.com/

Plus, our innocent little children are not supposed to look at their teachers boobs and lusty faces/etc.

Please don't make me put the obligatory emoticon.

Apr 11 14 04:39 am Link

Photographer

UKcolin

Posts: 17

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

One person has already gave you an idea, go under an assumed / modelling name as if anyone types in your name it will pop up with photos linked to it.

I would think as most do and probably yourself as you are asking YES some folk are small minded.

It may seem harsh but a job paying regular cash is better than a part time one paying a little... and you cannot be sure where photos from years ago may suddenly pop up.

I think you know the answer, stay as a portrait model and have fun that way so if any small minded person manages to look at your new site with an assumed name it will be all above board.
I would do this asap and also check on your inspirational photos folder as some may be misconstrued as Glamour. I hope this helps !

Apr 11 14 05:09 am Link

Photographer

Another Italian Guy

Posts: 3281

Bath, England, United Kingdom

Abigail Rose Hill wrote:
I know the industry and I know the distinction between modelling lingerie in a fashion sense, and glamour modelling.

Would you care to explain what that distinction is?

Because it could be (mis)construed as possibly less than charitable towards glamour models and I'm sure that isn't what you meant, right?






Just my $0.02 etc. etc.

Apr 11 14 05:59 am Link

Photographer

I M N Photography

Posts: 2350

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Unfortunately there is a certain stigma or double standard when it comes to women looking beautiful and sensual vs. women that need to be taken seriously in the workplace.

It isn't limited to something as private as lingerie.

Just look at something as simple as the haircuts sported by most of  the successful women in the corporate world.

As all other things in life, careers evolve, and in 20, 15, or even 5 years, you may find yourself pursuing aspirations you never dreamed about.

Or

You might find yourself NOT considering them, because of some "tame' photoshoot you did in the past.

You might be "OK" with it right now,, but it will bite you in the end...

Apr 11 14 06:21 am Link

Model

Josie Lee

Posts: 768

San Diego, California, US

For most people its not worth the risk.
Maybe modeling lingerie for a prestigious, upscale (somewhat conservative)
lingerie company catalog, might possibly be okay. But with some random
photographers shooting you in provacative non-commercial poses where those images
show up on the Internet, it will be found no matter your alias used.

Modeling is only for finite number of years, teaching can be a lifetime career. If you ruin your chances for teaching, you'll need a backup plan.

Good luck!

Apr 11 14 06:24 am Link

Photographer

Seste Proleterske

Posts: 106

Sarajevo, Federacija Bosna i Hercegovina, Bosnia and Herzegovina

take a pose so your face is not on it. cover it with something or similar so no one can identify you.

but you never know.

Apr 11 14 07:02 am Link

Photographer

Timothy

Posts: 1618

Madison, Wisconsin, US

This thread got me thinking...

I actually went back and deleted a few risqué shots from deviantArt and here on MM. They were taken years ago (but still looked good). They weren't really helping me get work and they might actually hurt the model in a hunt for a job or whatever.   

I've never had a model email me and request for a photo/s to be taken down. If it ever happened I would take it down without any regret though since my port. has more than enough shots already.


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Timothy
www.th-photo.net

Apr 11 14 07:02 am Link

Model

Kyzn

Posts: 28

London, England, United Kingdom

If you really want to go ahead with your career with absolutely no worries of your past 'coming to get you' then why don't pick another genre apart from lingerie modelling, you do have a nice look about you that could go with other genres.

That's just my opinion,

Good luck on your future choices.

Apr 11 14 02:28 pm Link

Model

fluffycakes

Posts: 446

Chicago, Illinois, US

I'm going for a double major in business and education to open my own home/private school.


1. It doesn't come cheap
2. thats why my name's fluffycakes
3. Yes absolutely. <--- to actually answer your question

Apr 11 14 02:49 pm Link

Photographer

A. KAYE

Posts: 317

Richardson, Texas, US

LIKELY
EDUCATORS HAVE BEEN FIRED FOR LESS

Apr 11 14 02:54 pm Link

Photographer

Azimuth Arts

Posts: 1490

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Another Italian Guy wrote:

Would you care to explain what that distinction is?

Because it could be (mis)construed as possibly less than charitable towards glamour models and I'm sure that isn't what you meant, right?






Just my $0.02 etc. etc.

My take on this is that if a model shoots in lingerie for the Sears catalog where the goal is to sell clothing it is different than a glamour model in a mens' magazine where the goal is to sell sex (or at least titillation).  While the moral character of the models are quite likely exactly the same a commercial or fashion model who happened to appear in lingerie might be able to argue the high ground if brought in front of a review board that the INTENT of the images was not for sexual purposes.

I don't know that this argument would work, as the "fear" often expressed by over-zealous parents is that their children might get the wrong idea from the images of their teacher in underwear - the boys will fantasize about their teacher in a sexual way and girls will think it is acceptable to be seen in public in your underwear.

I think the OP should probably avoid posing for any photograph that could possible be misconstrued if a career with children is her ultimate goal.  Unless she can reach super-model status and the income from a few years of modeling can outweigh a lifetime as an educator. 

Just my $0.02

Apr 11 14 03:05 pm Link

Photographer

I M N Photography

Posts: 2350

Boston, Massachusetts, US

So... what's the verdict?

"Hot for Teacher" or "Ms. Geist'?

Apr 11 14 04:52 pm Link

Photographer

Photozay Studios

Posts: 16

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Hey you got it, flaunt it!  Everyone really knows accusations get started only cause someone very jealous who couldn't be a model is envious.

Apr 12 14 02:10 am Link