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Michael Bots

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Robb Mann wrote:
Michael,

You actually missed the real frightening ebola news today -- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28827091

That breakout is actually covered in the Buzzfeed story up a bit
"Mob Destroys Ebola Center In Liberia Two Days After It Opens"
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jinamoore/two-d … in-liberia

do a Google image search -->   west point slum liberia
(70,000 people, no sewers, no running water - is where this happened - add a couple dozen cases of ebola to the mix in that environment)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHa-AvLk4no


These Photos Of An Ebola Isolation Ward Look Like A Sci-Fi Movie    (Germany)
http://www.businessinsider.com/surreal- … ard-2014-8


(Case numbers seem to be growing faster than 20% per week)
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Interesting background regarding the use of untested Monoclonal Antibodies (like ZMapp)

London Drug Trial Catastrophe – Collapse of Science and Ethics
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/LDTC.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGN1412
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article … po=87.5000

Warnings on FDA Approved Monoclonal Antibody Drugs
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/WOFAMAD.php

Adverse events to monoclonal antibodies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3827071/

Aug 17 14 09:57 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

AFL Ordered To Shoot Anyone Crossing Borders At Night
http://www.liberianobserver.com/securit … ders-night


Liberia `to shoot" people crossing border closed to halt Ebola
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakin … 41171.html

"Monrovia - Liberia's armed forces were given orders to shoot people trying to illegally cross the border from neighbouring Sierra Leone, which was closed to stem the spread of Ebola, local newspaper Daily Observer reported Monday.

Grand Cape Mount county had 35 known "illegal entry points," according to immigration commander Colonel Samuel Mulbah.

Illegal crossings were a major health threat, said Mulbah, "because we don’t know the health status of those who cross at night.""

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Cameroon closes all borders with Nigeria over Ebola outbreak
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/africa/Cam … ndex.html?

"Cameroon has closed all its land, sea and air borders with Nigeria in a move to help prevent the spread of the Ebola virus,"   

0 cases in Cameroon and they want to keep it that way.
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EBOLA KILLS 84 IN THREE DAYS: UN
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/89 … 5c4756f063

"The Ebola virus killed 84 people in just three days, bringing the global death toll to 1,229, the World Health Organization said Tuesday.
The death toll, which passed the 1,000-mark over a week ago, soared higher from last Thursday to Saturday.
The number of confirmed infections jumped by 113 over the three days, bringing the total number of cases to 2,240, the UN health agency said."

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*** Recurrence ***
Discharged Ebola Victim Returns Back In Lagos Hospital http://www.naijaloaded.com.ng/2014/08/1 … -hospital/

Persistent Infection with Ebola Virus under Conditions of Partial Immunity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC368745/

Aug 19 14 04:37 am Link

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Normad2

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San Francisco, California, US

Possibly maybe 1 in Sac?

hmm

Aug 19 14 09:49 pm Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Doctor interviewed --

Sunrise Daily: Dr. Akindele Akintayo Speaks On Ebola Virus PT1     
(of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PysaU6qad2I

- can spread infection 2 months after recovery - maybe longer
- says at one point that one of the people who is being treated became infected by simply touching a door handle

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WHO reports (lab confirmed) Ebola deaths now at 1,350 in West Africa.
Total cases at 2,473     ---- 106 dead & 230 new cases  in 2 days
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/ … AX20140820

Illness with Ebola-like symptoms kills several in Congo: locals
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/i … C620140820

Liberian police fire tear gas to disperse protest over Ebola quarantine
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/i … 7V20140820

‘Cured Ebola victims can be re-infected’
http://www.nigerianeye.com/2014/08/cure … ected.html
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Photographing An Ebola Riot: Put Your Fear Aside And Go Forward
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/aug/20/ph … ear-aside/

Aug 20 14 12:38 pm Link

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Fotticelli

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Rockville, Maryland, US

I work at the NIH (National Institutes of Health) and just a couple of hours ago they sent out a mass email looking for volunteers to take part in ebola vaccine clinical trials.

Anyone? I can hook you up. :-)

Aug 21 14 12:02 pm Link

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Cherrystone

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Columbus, Ohio, US

Fotticelli wrote:
I work at the NIH (National Institutes of Health) and just a couple of hours ago they sent out a mass email looking for volunteers to take part in ebola vaccine clinical trials.

Anyone? I can hook you up. :-)

Volunteers? Yeah right...lol

Aug 21 14 12:06 pm Link

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Ken Warren Photography

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GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

Michael Bots wrote:
- can spread infection 2 months after recovery - maybe longer

This is true, but...

You can only transmit it that long afterward if you are a male, and it can only be transmitted that long afterward in semen, i.e. it becomes an STD. Not surprising, really; without regular ejaculations (to clean the pipes, as it were, and empty the seminal vesicles) sperm stay viable for a couple of months after a vasectomy.

Aug 21 14 12:50 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Ebola first hand accounts from doctors          (more false negative tests)
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/vie … =5&t=12102


Suspect Ebola Case Dessie Quinn    (Ireland, fatal)
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/vie … =5&t=12101

Fri, Aug 22, 2014
Tests continue on suspected Ebola victim
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/t … -1.1904348

"Tests are continuing on a man found dead in Co Donegal who is suspected of having been infected with the Ebola virus while working in west Africa."
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Cases  2 615   Deaths 1 427    as of Aug 20

Aug 21 14 09:21 pm Link

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Tony-S

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Since there's been so much hysteria in this thread I think this article is an appropriate counterweight.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-americ … vey-finds/

Aug 23 14 12:32 pm Link

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KOLMANS STUDIOS

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Lüderitz, Karas, Namibia

And to add to that report,most from outside AFRICA,has, nt  got the slightest clue whats going really on in AFRICA. Its in most west- African countries mayor elections next year. This is the runup to get finance for compaigns. For some that benefitt from west african cuntries is again who to make sure stays in control and who would replace those who cost billions to keep in place. Makes one think about EBOLA from a total diffrent perspective. And its funny that it only starts from countries that is heavly dpendant from mining and oil. Other countries in AFRICA also have forests,Also have bats but no mayor foreign mining operations. Yet no EBOLA.

Aug 23 14 01:43 pm Link

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Tony-S

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KOLMANS STUDIOS wrote:
And its funny that it only starts from countries that is heavly dpendant from mining and oil. Other countries in AFRICA also have forests,Also have bats but no mayor foreign mining operations. Yet no EBOLA.

It's not just from mining activities. Bush meat and hunting of bats has also been linked to ebolavirus (and marburgvirus) outbreaks.

Aug 24 14 06:23 am Link

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KOLMANS STUDIOS

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Lüderitz, Karas, Namibia

I,m not linking mining operations to ebola. Mining operations is connected to the political situations. And that in turn is controlled by those who directly benefitt from the minerals and oil.
But in one look at AFRICA,then the outside world plays a huge role in whats said and done through various ways and means .

If bushmeat and bats is to be blamed,three quaters of AFRICA should have been dead by now. So,why not.

Aug 24 14 07:13 am Link

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Tony-S

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KOLMANS STUDIOS wrote:
If bushmeat and bats is to be blamed,three quaters of AFRICA should have been dead by now. So,why not.

1. It's only certain species (perhaps two) that transmit filoviruses.
2. These species only have specific and limited geographic distributions and migration ranges.
3. Transmission from bats to humans is a very rare event.
4. Person to person transmission is not efficient.

Aug 24 14 08:29 am Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

DR Congo confirms first cases of Ebola
http://www.france24.com/en/20140824-dr- … ses-ebola/

New Outbreak? Two People Die of Ebola in Congo
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola- … go-n187921

Congo declares Ebola outbreak in northern Equateur province
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/2 … R520140824

"one of the two cases that tested positive was for the Sudanese strain of the disease, while the other was a mixture between the Sudanese and the Zaire strain"

"Ebola was first identified in 1976 in Equateur province in what was once the former Zaire"



Media reports describe the two confirmed Ebola cases in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) as a Sudan case and a mixture of Sudan and Zaire, raising concerns of a recombinant.   -- and different from the new strain that has appeared in west Africa, which is descended from the Zaire strain.
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Transmission of Ebola virus (Zaire strain) to uninfected control monkeys in a biocontainment laboratory.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8551825
(10 feet - no contact --> 2 out of 3 infected)
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Airline flight being treated as a suspect plague ship --
120 isolation beds being prepared

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ … -to-ebola/
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-m … a-2013632?
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Dogs Feed On Ebola Victims
http://allafrica.com/stories/201408260125.html

Aug 25 14 01:17 am Link

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Charles Howse

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Interesting aspect of the outbreak:

An app that predicted/detected the outbreak.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how … TRE684d531

Aug 26 14 12:27 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Still spreading.

Nigeria closes all schools until October
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28950347

Liberia: 4 West Point 'Looters' Tested Positive of Ebola    (already)
http://allafrica.com/stories/2014082715 … ptlgt-grid

Diagnoses at WHO lab - Canadian staff pulled from Sierra Leone as precaution
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ebola-outb … -1.2746945

WHO staff who was infected w/ Ebola was medically evacuated
https://twitter.com/WHO/status/50468973 … 00/photo/1

Inside the West African ebola towns where locals are quarantined at gunpoint
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … demic.html

Report: Dogs Eating Dead Bodies Of Ebola Victims On Liberian Streets
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/08/27/ … n-streets/

Germ-Killing Robots Deployed to Liberia to Battle Ebola
http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/newswidget … id/591047/

Ebola outbreak 'worse than we'd feared,' CDC chief says on visit to West Africa
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/ebola-outb … ibe/ng85M/


Change of tone with the World Health Organization

UN: EBOLA CASES COULD EVENTUALLY REACH 20,000
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/ap … 5b06cea2f4

"GENEVA (AP) — The Ebola outbreak in West Africa eventually could exceed 20,000 cases, more than six times as many as are now known, the World Health Organization said Thursday.
A new plan released by the U.N. health agency to stop Ebola also assumes that the actual number of cases in many hard-hit areas may be two to four times higher than currently reported. If that's accurate, it suggests there could be up to 12,000 cases already.
Currently, about half of the people infected with Ebola have died, so in the worst case scenario outlined by the WHO, the death toll could reach 10,000."

"In new figures, the agency said 1,552 people have died from the virus from among the 3,069 cases reported so far in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Nigeria. More than 40 percent of the cases have been identified in the last three weeks, the U.N. health agency said, adding that "the outbreak continues to accelerate." "

Aug 27 14 11:46 am Link

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Michael Bots

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Ebola Arrives in Senegal as Outbreak Accelerates
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir … k-25172474

Ebola virus has mutated during course of outbreak
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ … story.html

Ebola zone countries isolated as airlines stop flights
http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-zone-countr … 24031.html

Ebola in town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_WOR22-SnY

Ebola Is Rapidly Mutating As It Spreads Across West Africa
http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2 … est-africa

"the rapid change in the virus' genome could weaken the tools researchers have to detect Ebola or, potentially, to treat patients.

Diagnostic tests, experimental vaccines and drugs for Ebola — like the one recently used to treat two American patients — are all based on the gene sequences of the virus, Sabeti says. "If the virus is mutating away from the known sequence, that could be important to how these things work.""

Aug 29 14 01:07 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Some people show no symptoms from EVD infection. (can still spread it though)

Possibility of subclinical / asymptomatic infection

Human asymptomatic Ebola infection and strong inflammatory response
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance … S0140-6736(00)02405-3/fulltext

Disease modelers project a rapidly rising toll from Ebola
http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2014/ … toll-ebola
- 10,000 before the end of Sept (100,000 before year end) -- there is still no downturn in the rate of spread of new infections.
- 40% of all cases in the current outbreak are from the last 3 weeks.


EBOLA:NIGERIAN DIPLOMAT, OLUBUKUN KOYE TO FACE MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES FOR INFECTING PH DOCTOR
http://naijalog.com/ebolanigerian-diplo … ph-doctir/


Liberia Lifts Ebola-Related Quarantine               (found to be unenforceable)
http://allafrica.com/stories/201408310002.html


Ebola virus disease in southern Sudan: hospital dissemination and intrafamilial spread
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article … 2-0107.pdf


Ebola Patient Flees Clinic In Search For Food
http://news.sky.com/story/1328891/ebola … h-for-food
pic   http://media.skynews.com/media/images/g … 42x530.jpg


CDC Director: Ebola Outbreak ‘Is Spiraling Out Of Control’
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/09/02/ … f-control/

Sep 01 14 01:04 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Death toll approaching 100 per day


Ebola death toll at more than 1900
http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8900831 … -than-1900

""As of this week, we are reporting 3500 cases confirmed in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia and more than 1900 deaths -- and the outbreak is rising," Margaret Chan told reporters in Washington on Wednesday.

The latest toll represents a significant increase from the 1552 deaths and 3069 cases reported by the Geneva-based organisation just days ago."

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Ebola-infected patient in Liberia escapes quarantine, enters crowded market
http://rt.com/news/184660-ebola-patient … s-liberia/

Video: Ebola patient escapes quarantine, spreads panic in Monrovia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-JZEaeOmfE

training
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J28vaK977RU
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 … apocalypse

Sep 03 14 06:45 pm Link

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ByGRH

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http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ebola-scams/

Great site in general, but very apt for this thread.

Graham

Sep 06 14 07:55 am Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Ebola Spreading 'Exponentially' as Patients Seek Beds in Liberia
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola- … ia-n198516

Ebola is surging in places it had been beaten back
http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-surging-pla … 04110.html

WHO: ‘Many Thousands’ of New Ebola Cases Expected in Coming Weeks
http://time.com/3307024/who-many-thousa … ing-weeks/
"Liberia taxis have turned into "hot sources" of transmission as infected people crisscross town in futile attempts to find hospital beds"
“As soon as a new Ebola treatment facility is opened, it immediately fills to overflowing with patients, pointing to a large but previously invisible caseload,” the WHO stated. “Many thousands of new cases are expected in Liberia over the coming three weeks.”


Growing concerns over 'in the air' transmission of Ebola
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423




"numbers are artificially low since they are based on patients in treatment...they aren't counting the many who are being turned away daily since all the beds are full...so without an increase in BEDS there can't be an increase in their numbers.....in other words, numbers from here out essentially meaningless...
Just assume the same trajectory as before the numbers "leveled out"..."


How deadly is Ebola? Statistical challenges may be inflating survival rate
http://news.sciencemag.org/africa/2014/ … ival-rate?


Pilot Flying Ebola Patients To U.S. Says LOTS More Sick People Brought To U.S. Than Being Reported!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM1essoRxt4

Sep 09 14 07:19 am Link

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John Photography

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Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

ernst tischler wrote:
At breakfast this morning, the ROMEO club (Retired Old Men Eating Out) were discussing the possibility of "weaponized Ebola" or "suicide Ebola terrorists".

How could you weaponize Ebola?

Sep 09 14 10:20 pm Link

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Robb Mann

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AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:

How could you weaponize Ebola?

There are a few ways, some less plausible than others (sick terrorist gets a job at McDonalds...). As the situation continues its a near-certanity cases will pop up in the US and across europe, even without ebola-laden Jhiadists. Our health care system, like many countries, can handle an outbreak of hundreds or thousands of cases.

The only thing that scares me is the news media telling us not to panic or worry about it. Thats very unusual.

Sep 10 14 02:08 am Link

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John Photography

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Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Robb Mann wrote:

There are a few ways, some less plausible than others (sick terrorist gets a job at McDonalds...). As the situation continues its a near-certanity cases will pop up in the US and across europe, even without ebola-laden Jhiadists. Our health care system, like many countries, can handle an outbreak of hundreds or thousands of cases.

The only thing that scares me is the news media telling us not to panic or worry about it. Thats very unusual.

Yes but you'd have to then be a carrier....... But it requires contact with bodily fluids though directly doesn't it?  Scary stuff

Sep 10 14 02:41 am Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Dying at the Hospital Door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUBpoyKxArU

What We’re Afraid to Say About Ebola
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/opini … ebola.html
"Liberia has only 250 doctors left, for a population of four million"
"virologists are loath to discuss openly but are definitely considering in private" - "transmissible through the air"


US State Dept orders 160,000 Hazmat Suits for Ebola
http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking … for-ebola/


Ebola threatens to destroy Sierra Leone and Liberia
http://www.dw.de/ebola-threatens-to-des … a-17915090
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/09/12 … 5-million/   5 million?


The terrifying mathematics of Ebola
http://blogs.channel4.com/tom-clarke-on … ebola/1329
"leading epidemiologist is studying the spread of the virus in Monrovia, where the outbreak is now most intense. He has told Channel 4 News that based on the current rate of spread and lack of power to control it, it has the potential to infect the majority of the population of the country"


new suits
http://www.awesomecapital.com/awesome-b … -for-ebola

Sep 12 14 12:39 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

CDC issues Ebola checklist: 'Now is the time to prepare'
http://washingtonexaminer.com/cdc-issue … le/2553396

State Department orders 5,000 BODY BAGS and 160,000 hazmat suits for African Ebola outbreak as Obama sends 100 CDC experts
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … perts.html


Computer model results --
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function," says modern Malthusian Albert A. Bartlett in a 1994 video lecture entitled "Arithmetic, Population, & Energy"

Early Epidemic Dynamics of the West African 2014 Ebola Outbreak: Estimates Derived with a Simple Two-Parameter Model
http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/arti … ter-model/

"Based on models fit to available cumulative incidence data from August 2014, we project that in the absence of more effective control interventions, this epidemic will increase to affect tens, and possibly hundreds, of thousands of individuals. Given the high case fatality ratio associated with Ebola virus infection, such an occurrence would be nothing short of catastrophic"


Cuba to send doctors to Ebola areas
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29174923


Ebola Deaths Jump by Almost 200 People in a Single Day as Pandemic Explodes
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/955520- … um=twitter


Obama to Deploy Troops Against Ebola in West Africa
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama- … id/594557/
"Offshore ship hospitals have been ruled out over fears that the virus could spread rapidly though the vessels." (too dangerous)

Tent hospital but no staff.

Sep 15 14 02:00 pm Link

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Lightcraft Studio

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The US is planning to send US troops over there to help out.

Not sure if that's a good thing or not.

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/US-T … 97631.html

Sep 15 14 02:07 pm Link

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Vivus Hussein Denuo

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New York, New York, US

Until now, we haven't worried or done much about other countries' public health issues.  Now, maybe we should re-think that approach.

Sep 17 14 05:26 am Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Wake me for the end of the world
I slept though the last couple ones

Sep 17 14 05:33 am Link

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Jay Edwards

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Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Vivus Hussein Denuo wrote:
Until now, we haven't worried or done much about other countries' public health issues.  Now, maybe we should re-think that approach.

I suppose that depends upon what ''worried or done much'' means.

''Congressional support for global health programs has been increasing, particularly during the George W. Bush Administration. Combined global health funding from State-Foreign Operations, Labor-HHS and Defense appropriations rose from $1.7 billion in FY2001 to $8.9 billion in FY2012.''

http://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R43115.pdf

Sep 17 14 07:02 am Link

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Michael Bots

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WHO situation reports: Ebola response roadmap
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/si … eports/en/



September 18: 5,335 cases, 2,622 deaths
   
(up by 1,000 cases per week from earlier in the month)


Ebola Worst-Case Scenario Has More Than 500,000 Cases
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-1 … cases.html

"The Ebola outbreak in West Africa could spread to hundreds of thousands more people by the end of January, according to an estimate under development by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that puts one worst-case scenario at 550,000 or more infections."


This Ebola Outbreak 'Has Broken All The Rules'
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/20/350083174 … -the-rules

"Laurie Garrett covered the Ebola outbreak in Zaire in 1995. She talks with NPR's Scott Simon about the U.S. mission to send military and monetary aid to Africa to help control Ebola in the region."
(NPR audio link)

--- Case numbers doubling about every 3 weeks - no slowdown.

CDC Estimates As Many As 500,000 Ebola Cases By End Of January
http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-outbreak-c … ry-1692525

Sep 18 14 08:35 am Link

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Lightcraft Studio

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First case of Ebola reported in the United States. This person is not a medical worker.

http://wgntv.com/2014/09/30/first-case- … ed-in-u-s/

This is not good at all.

CDC to do a press conference in about 20 minutes from now.

Yesterday, the CDC issued guidelines for US funeral homes on how to properly handle Ebola bodies:

http://www.cbs46.com/story/26657838/cdc … eral-homes

Sep 30 14 02:02 pm Link

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Lallure Photographic

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First diagnosed case in the U.S. today. We all knew it was coming. They allowed travel to continue, in and out of the infected areas.

Sep 30 14 02:32 pm Link

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Lightcraft Studio

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Lallure Photographic wrote:
First diagnosed case in the U.S. today. We all knew it was coming. They allowed travel to continue, in and out of the infected areas.

He's been in the US for 10 days... then wandered into the ER in Dallas. He's probably been in contact with several people in that time.

Sep 30 14 02:37 pm Link

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Lightcraft Studio

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Those evil bureaucrats at the CDC refuse to disclose the patient's condition, or any info on what flights he's taken or anything else that might help people who have been in contact with him.

I wonder if he has kids in school right now.

Sep 30 14 02:59 pm Link

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Lohkee

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Lightcraft Studio wrote:
Those evil bureaucrats at the CDC refuse to disclose the patient's condition, or any info on what flights he's taken or anything else that might help people who have been in contact with him.

I wonder if he has kids in school right now.

Given the potential one would think they would want to broadcast this type of information. Oh well, hang on to your chair and hope for the best.

Sep 30 14 04:45 pm Link

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Robb Mann

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It's an unwelcome development, but not an unexpected one. Not sure what we're doing air-traffic wise, but hopefully we take this case seriously.

Sep 30 14 05:43 pm Link

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Robb Mann

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Ok, we live in a society where the media exists to scare the hell out of us. Trans fat will kill you. high fructose corn syrup will give you diabetes. McDonald's will ruin your health. 3" of snow might fall and trap you in your house for days... The media is always over-hyping every perceived threat to the hilt for maximum ratings.

Then there is Ebola. A serious disease and potential epidemic. The media's response? "don't worry, be happy". I don't get it.

http://gizmodo.com/why-you-shouldnt-fre … sarahzhang

Sep 30 14 06:00 pm Link

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IrisSwope

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Lightcraft Studio wrote:
Those evil bureaucrats at the CDC refuse to disclose the patient's condition, or any info on what flights he's taken or anything else that might help people who have been in contact with him.

I wonder if he has kids in school right now.

I'm pretty sure we can contain it. We have running water and working drains, soap, etc. We'll be fine

Sep 30 14 06:05 pm Link

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Koryn

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I just don't think our healthcare system is as comprehensive and great as everyone makes it out to be.

I have a lot of uninsured friends who live in the Southeast, where it's not only difficult to find full-time jobs since the economic collapse, many people still cannot access any type of decent medical care (due to lack of insurance), or refuse to go to the ER because it will cost them thousands of dollars for one visit.

While yes, we have a better sanitation situation than some of the places in Africa, large portions of the US populations do not just walk into a clinic for treatment when they get sick. They are under-served, outside the system, and deeply lacking in medical care.

That's not suddenly going to change just because ebola cases start showing up in the states. Those people, if exposed, are just going to die in their beds at home - after contaminating their closest family members.

Assuming this will not spread in the States is also assuming that every person living here has equal access to quality healthcare.

Sep 30 14 08:13 pm Link