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S3R4PH1M

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Modesto, California, US

What I thought was tendonitis or perhaps a muscle tear is dragging on.... looked at symptoms of rotator cuff injury and it was check check check.... ugh...

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Jul 07 14 02:47 pm Link

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Lumen Sky

Posts: 1802

Center Moriches, New York, US

sorry. chronic pain is no fun. Call a neurologist. Not sure why you havent already!

Jul 07 14 03:04 pm Link

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Koryn

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From the perspective of someone else who lives and breathes working out (I really have no life at all), injuries destroy your quality of life. People don't really understand that. They're just like, "Oooh, you're already skinny. So what? Why are you whining for?"

I can't imagine even wanting to get up in the morning, or wanting to go on living, if I can't be pushing myself and growing always as an athletic person. I know that sounds absurd, but it's how I feel.

I've not exactly had it easy, considering how broke I've been for most of my adulthood, but NOTHING -- absolutely NOTHING --- hurts my morale, my sense of who I am, my very being, most than having an injury and not being able to train at normal capacity.

It's truly, truly,horrible.

Jul 07 14 03:29 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Koryn wrote:
From the perspective of someone else who lives and breathes working out (I really have no life at all), injuries destroy your quality of life. People don't really understand that. They're just like, "Oooh, you're already skinny. So what? Why are you whining for?"

I can't imagine even wanting to get up in the morning, or wanting to go on living, if I can't be pushing myself and growing always as an athletic person. I know that sounds absurd, but it's how I feel.

I've not exactly had it easy, considering how broke I've been for most of my adulthood, but NOTHING -- absolutely NOTHING --- hurts my morale, my sense of who I am, my very being, most than having an injury and not being able to train at normal capacity.

It's truly, truly,horrible.

When my bursitis flared up and I couldn't dance I was ))):

I'm sure it'll be back any day now.

Jul 07 14 07:56 pm Link

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S3R4PH1M

Posts: 530

Modesto, California, US

Lumen Sky wrote:
sorry. chronic pain is no fun. Call a neurologist. Not sure why you havent already!

I'm one of "those" who has annoying combination of need for adrenaline, high pain threshold, and aversion to medication in general.

After about a month I did see a doc, and he gave me large quantity of pain meds to see if that would get me through (assuming it was tendonitis). I took the meds for several days until I felt like my brain was under a blanket at which point I stopped cold.

Several weeks later I'm still at square one with this.

The S.O.P. is to get it x-rayed next.

On the plus side - even if it is a worst-case-scenario in which I'd need the torn parts surgically repaired - the internet seems to indicate that full-strength recovery is the usual outcome ... albeit after physical therapy.

So whatever I've managed to do - I know it will eventually end. That makes me feel good. The process .... well that's to be seen.

Thanks for the replies and encouraging thoughts. Backrubs welcome lol.

Jul 07 14 09:33 pm Link

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S3R4PH1M

Posts: 530

Modesto, California, US

@ Koryn

Right there with ya. Thanks for understanding.

Jul 07 14 09:34 pm Link

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Keith NYC

Posts: 1735

Tampa, Florida, US

S3R4PH1M  wrote:

I'm one of "those" who has annoying combination of need for adrenaline, high pain threshold, and aversion to medication in general.

After about a month I did see a doc, and he gave me large quantity of pain meds to see if that would get me through (assuming it was tendonitis). I took the meds for several days until I felt like my brain was under a blanket at which point I stopped cold.

Several weeks later I'm still at square one with this.

The S.O.P. is to get it x-rayed next.

On the plus side - even if it is a worst-case-scenario in which I'd need the torn parts surgically repaired - the internet seems to indicate that full-strength recovery is the usual outcome ... albeit after physical therapy.

So whatever I've managed to do - I know it will eventually end. That makes me feel good. The process .... well that's to be seen.

Thanks for the replies and encouraging thoughts. Backrubs welcome lol.

If the meds weren't anti-inflammatories they wouldn't help the healing process of tendonitis, if anything just mask it and make it worse (so check to see what the pain med actually was). Not sure how long you've had the injury but tendonitis seems to linger around for a long time in general so you can't dismiss it just because it's still around. I had a case one and off for 3 years but that's long gone now. big_smile
If you're covered and really want to know what's wrong I would suggest an MRI.  X-ray will do very little to show a soft tissue injury.
If it turns out to be tendonitis I can give advice based on personal experience to help speed that recovery along. (Mine was in my elbow though, yours sounds to be in the shoulder?)

Good luck man. Rest up to be safe and find alternate ways to train without aggravating the injury.

Jul 07 14 10:30 pm Link

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Lumen Sky

Posts: 1802

Center Moriches, New York, US

S3R4PH1M  wrote:
I'm one of "those" who has annoying combination of need for adrenaline, high pain threshold, and aversion to medication in general.

After about a month I did see a doc, and he gave me large quantity of pain meds to see if that would get me through (assuming it was tendonitis). I took the meds for several days until I felt like my brain was under a blanket at which point I stopped cold.

Several weeks later I'm still at square one with this.

The S.O.P. is to get it x-rayed next.

On the plus side - even if it is a worst-case-scenario in which I'd need the torn parts surgically repaired - the internet seems to indicate that full-strength recovery is the usual outcome ... albeit after physical therapy.

So whatever I've managed to do - I know it will eventually end. That makes me feel good. The process .... well that's to be seen.

Thanks for the replies and encouraging thoughts. Backrubs welcome lol.

from what you stated you can skip the cost vof the xray and go right to am mri. Xrays only really show broken bones

Jul 07 14 11:44 pm Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

S3R4PH1M  wrote:
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Backrubs welcome lol.

C'mere.  wink  big_smile

Jul 08 14 06:34 am Link

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S3R4PH1M

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Modesto, California, US

Keith NYC wrote:
If the meds weren't anti-inflammatories they wouldn't help the healing process of tendonitis, if anything just mask it and make it worse (so check to see what the pain med actually was). Not sure how long you've had the injury but tendonitis seems to linger around for a long time in general so you can't dismiss it just because it's still around. I had a case one and off for 3 years but that's long gone now. big_smile
If you're covered and really want to know what's wrong I would suggest an MRI.  X-ray will do very little to show a soft tissue injury.
If it turns out to be tendonitis I can give advice based on personal experience to help speed that recovery along. (Mine was in my elbow though, yours sounds to be in the shoulder?)

Good luck man. Rest up to be safe and find alternate ways to train without aggravating the injury.

1. Yes it was a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory ... I've been taking it again to help me sleep (side effect is drowsiness) through the night.

2. There wasn't one jarring moment when I knew it happened - it was a realization over a few days in late April that something was not right. So, really from the month of May until now. Nothing compared to your 3 year experience. Perhaps I should mention I have character flaws such as impatience.

3. Agree about MRI. But the SOP is to get x-ray first. My cynical side thinks this is a collusion between insurance and medical to waste as much time and money as possible before actually getting round to accomplishing something. But I'm not a doctor, so...

Would like to hear your input on exercise routines that helped you recover.

Thanks!

Jul 08 14 02:23 pm Link

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S3R4PH1M

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Modesto, California, US

Lumen Sky wrote:
Xrays only really show broken bones

My convo with doc went something like:

Doc: "take the meds and wait a few weeks. If the pain doesn't subside next step is an x-ray."

Me: "But if this is a muscle tear, an x-ray won't show anything - just bones, right?"

Doc: "Yes, but x-ray will eliminate a calcium buildup or bone spur. If it's clear, then we'll do an mri."


(me thinking: "waste of time and money")

Anyway - did the x-ray this week. Nurses said my bones were beautiful lol. I said it's not easy being a model and that's why we make bank lol.

Jul 08 14 02:28 pm Link

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S3R4PH1M

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Modesto, California, US

DivaEroticus wrote:

C'mere.  wink  big_smile

where? Arkansas or D.C.? Where did you land?

Jul 08 14 02:29 pm Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

S3R4PH1M  wrote:

where? Arkansas or D.C.? Where did you land?

It's not definite, yet, but Norfolk.  A few things need to be worked out in the next couple of days.

Jul 08 14 02:34 pm Link

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Lumen Sky

Posts: 1802

Center Moriches, New York, US

S3R4PH1M  wrote:
My convo with doc went something like:

Doc: "take the meds and wait a few weeks. If the pain doesn't subside next step is an x-ray."

Me: "But if this is a muscle tear, an x-ray won't show anything - just bones, right?"

Doc: "Yes, but x-ray will eliminate a calcium buildup or bone spur. If it's clear, then we'll do an mri."


(me thinking: "waste of time and money")

Anyway - did the x-ray this week. Nurses said my bones were beautiful lol. I said it's not easy being a model and that's why we make bank lol.

perfect example of why I loathe insurance companies. and then when you actually NEED procedures they want to deny you

Jul 08 14 03:16 pm Link

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Erin Holmes

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Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

That sucks sad It seems like you're a very active person. That would be like something happening to my ankle, right now I'm in the middle of a 10k training program. I'd be pretty bummed. I hope you get better soon.

Jul 08 14 06:04 pm Link

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Gryph

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Phoenix, Arizona, US

Dude, I'm thinking I have shoulder tendonitis.  My left shoulder just hurts when I move my arm in certain places, and even when I lift small objects.  I'll need to see a doctor to be sure though.

This has been ongoing for a few months but no idea how it happened since I don't workout or lift heavy things.

I definitely feel your pain.

Jul 08 14 08:30 pm Link

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Isis22

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Muncie, Indiana, US

I had shoulder surgery last year. It was bad for maybe 2 years but I waited until it hurt to even turn off my light next to my bed. An x-ray actually will show more than a broken bone. Mine showed a bone spur. Unfortunately that information didn't help at all because physical therapy made me worse so I quit after 2 sessions. My MRI showed the bone spur, tendinitis, bursitis, arthritis and just the beginnings of a rotator cuff tear. If you need surgery just make sure you get physical therapy afterwards. My surgeon said I didn't need it. I ended up with a partially frozen shoulder. I am going in for my second round of physical therapy next week. I really screwed up my ankle so I am doubling up on therapy and trying to fix that as well. I wish you the best, it really sucks to be in pain.

Jul 09 14 03:11 pm Link

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Keith NYC

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Tampa, Florida, US

S3R4PH1M  wrote:
1. Yes it was a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory ... I've been taking it again to help me sleep (side effect is drowsiness) through the night.

2. There wasn't one jarring moment when I knew it happened - it was a realization over a few days in late April that something was not right. So, really from the month of May until now. Nothing compared to your 3 year experience. Perhaps I should mention I have character flaws such as impatience.

3. Agree about MRI. But the SOP is to get x-ray first. My cynical side thinks this is a collusion between insurance and medical to waste as much time and money as possible before actually getting round to accomplishing something. But I'm not a doctor, so...

Would like to hear your input on exercise routines that helped you recover.

Thanks!

Alright good! Yeah I'd stick with them and see if they have a chance to work for you. As for the impatience, I hear you on that. That's why it lingered around for 3 years lol. When all it really needed was a good 6 weeks of me doing the right thing. It sounds like it's a chronic injury if you can't really pin point when it happened. Any sports, motions, or something in your training routine that you think could have lead to it? Figuring out what caused it will be the only thing that can help prevent it in the future. As for the MRI I'm pretty sure that's the only thing that will allow you to know with certainty what is actually damaged so it would be tough coming up with a rehab plan yet until you can pin point it =/

With my tendonitis in the elbow (I actually had both tenis AND golfers elbow) so the means the tricep and bicep side were both messed up.

First thing I did was eliminate anything that acted it up, then I would soak the elbow in epsom salt ice water for 20 minutes at a time multiple times through out the day. I'd try to get atleast 2 20 minutes sessions both before and after work. I also removed foods in my diet that cause inflammation and added ones that reduce it. I would also take a multivitamin and message the area to get more nutrient rich bloodflow to the area (I believe one of the reasons tendons take so long to heal is because of the lack of blood flowing there, so massaging it will encourage the blood there)

And last but not least I would stretch the forearm in attempt to lengthen the tendons.

I put A LOT of time in rehabing it, but I'd rather the few weeks of dedicating everything I had to fixing it over the 3 years wasted walking on eggshells around it.

That being said, the shoulder will have a different recovery route, but you should be certain of the injury first before some of the things (for instance you're not going to wanna be stretching a tore RC)

Good luck man!

Jul 09 14 08:40 pm Link