Forums > Critique > Isn't this too dark ...HONESTLY

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

The first photo black and white....I love it !! But I really think its too dark. Photographers what do you think ???

ELENA

Comments appreciated smile

Jul 14 14 08:02 am Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

If you are referring to the first ( new ) shot in your port - I think its fine

It creates a different mood than the others

and it would be nice to see a few more in that style

Jul 14 14 08:04 am Link

Photographer

qwepoqwieqp

Posts: 28

Charleston, South Carolina, US

which photo?

Jul 14 14 08:04 am Link

Photographer

nyk fury

Posts: 2976

Port Townsend, Washington, US

Elena Antonia Pappas wrote:
The first photo black and white....I love it !! But I really think its too dark. Photographers what do you think ???

ELENA

it only looks 'dark' next to all the other bright ones. i think it is fine.

Jul 14 14 08:11 am Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Sam Walden Photo wrote:
which photo? [/quo


Sorry about that smile Its the first photo new..black and white top row smile

Jul 14 14 08:12 am Link

Photographer

GER Photography

Posts: 8463

Imperial, California, US

No, it's not too dark. There's plenty of detail in the photo. It is darker overall, like said above but on it's own merrits, it's a good shot.

Jul 14 14 08:13 am Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

No, not too dark at all. What ought be light....your face...is light.

Jul 14 14 08:16 am Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Garry k wrote:
If you are referring to the first ( new ) shot in your port - I think its fine

It creates a different mood than the others

and it would be nice to see a few more in that style

Thanks so much Gary.

Jul 14 14 08:16 am Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

GER Photography wrote:
No, it's not too dark. There's plenty of detail in the photo. It is darker overall, like said above but on it's own merrits, it's a good shot.

Wow cant believe how you all think its not too dark...THANK YOU smile

Jul 14 14 08:20 am Link

Photographer

sospix

Posts: 23775

Orlando, Florida, US

Nope, just has beautiful shadows and lots of attitude  .  .  .  course, what do I know  .  .  .

SOS

Jul 14 14 08:24 am Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Cherrystone wrote:
No, not too dark at all. What ought be light....your face...is light.

Wow just shows you !!!  I thought my face looked too dark with patches of dark on the cheekbone smile

Jul 14 14 08:25 am Link

Photographer

Dan Dozer

Posts: 664

Palm Springs, California, US

It's a little too dark for me viewing on a computer monitor.  However, I would bet that as an actual print, this might look great.  The challenge is maintaining the tonal differences between your dark hair, your dark jacket, and the black background and it's not easy to separate out those tones on a monitor.  Monitors also vary in quality on how images look.

For what it's worth, there are many different styles of black and white printing that photographers use and it's all due to their own perceptions and what they like the most.  Many photographers like the overall real dark feeling of this image while others might like to see a little more detail in the darkest tones.  I agree with the one person who mentioned that if your face were a little lighter, I think it would help the image.

Jul 14 14 08:33 am Link

Photographer

dcsmooth

Posts: 1349

Detroit, Michigan, US

I agree that it looks great, and is not too dark at all.

Jul 14 14 09:06 am Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Dan Dozer wrote:
It's a little too dark for me viewing on a computer monitor.  However, I would bet that as an actual print, this might look great.  The challenge is maintaining the tonal differences between your dark hair, your dark jacket, and the black background and it's not easy to separate out those tones on a monitor.  Monitors also vary in quality on how images look.

For what it's worth, there are many different styles of black and white printing that photographers use and it's all due to their own perceptions and what they like the most.  Many photographers like the overall real dark feeling of this image while others might like to see a little more detail in the darkest tones.  I agree with the one person who mentioned that if your face were a little lighter, I think it would help the image.

Thanks for your detailed critique smile

Jul 14 14 10:13 am Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

dcsmooth wrote:
I agree that it looks great, and is not too dark at all.

Thank you smile

Jul 14 14 10:14 am Link

Photographer

Nor-Cal Photography

Posts: 3720

Walnut Creek, California, US

dcsmooth wrote:
I agree that it looks great, and is not too dark at all.

+1

But just one worthless opinion.  smile

Jul 14 14 10:28 am Link

Photographer

Oubliette Media

Posts: 146

RESEDA, California, US

Not too dark at all. Great photo.

Jul 14 14 10:28 am Link

Model

Magda Kulpinska

Posts: 688

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Its a cool pic, but being a model I know what you mean and I understand your concern.

It looks somewhat arty. I have been told by industry pro's (and ignored the advice) that this kind of photo might not be the best to put in a portfolio. They'd probably be looking at something more commercial, i.e. seeing more of your face and your eyes looking into the camera.

Anyone has come across similar opinions?

Jul 14 14 10:36 am Link

Photographer

I Y Q

Posts: 36

Kansas City, Missouri, US

It is a matter of personal taste, if you like it, that is all that matters ... wink

Jul 14 14 10:43 am Link

Photographer

Santiago Alvarez

Posts: 91

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

It's perfect. It might be your screen that is too dark. It tends to happen.

Jul 14 14 11:08 am Link

Artist/Painter

Augustine

Posts: 1153

Los Angeles, California, US

No.

Jul 14 14 02:15 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Not too dark, in fact you might try adding more to even out your folio.
I like it, plenty of detail in the shadows and a great job by the model wink

Jul 14 14 02:35 pm Link

Photographer

International2014

Posts: 97

Ashburn, Virginia, US

No it's definitely not dark! Good range of lighting there. As someone also mentioned, your monitor or device just might be set too dim.

Also another note on the technical side: a lot of professional photographers have their monitors calibrated for purposes of print accuracy so what you're seeing on your screen is most likely a bit slightly different from what he's seeing on his.

Jul 14 14 03:09 pm Link

Photographer

J Millman Photography

Posts: 198

Norwich, England, United Kingdom

I have to go against the general opinion here, I think it is too dark.
But it's just my personal view.
smile

Jul 14 14 03:19 pm Link

Model

J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

It's sort of artsy.

Jul 14 14 03:35 pm Link

Photographer

ImOutOfHere

Posts: 2227

New York, New York, US

I think it's too dark.  It looks a bit flat.  I feel that there isn't enough range right now with how the picture was edited so a lot of things seem to blend together.

Jul 14 14 03:49 pm Link

Artist/Painter

Augustine

Posts: 1153

Los Angeles, California, US

If you take the very high end through a luminosity mask and brighten it it looks great.

You have to do it somewhat different amounts in some highlights than in others but if you make the high end pop it looks great.

Jul 14 14 04:09 pm Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

It's fine. 

You will get lots of different opinions because everyone's screen is different. big_smile

Jul 14 14 04:15 pm Link

Photographer

Doug Bolton Photography

Posts: 784

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

I don't think it's toooooooo dark, but I do think the lighting is somewhat poor.

Jul 14 14 04:25 pm Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
It's fine. 

You will get lots of different opinions because everyone's screen is different. big_smile

Thank you so much!!! After seen your work I definitely can see that mine is not too dark smile

Jul 14 14 10:30 pm Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Rik Williams wrote:
Not too dark, in fact you might try adding more to even out your folio.
I like it, plenty of detail in the shadows and a great job by the model wink

Thank you Rik smile My agency has already added it to my portfolio. AS usual...YOUR WORK IS STUNNING !!!!

ELENA

Jul 14 14 10:33 pm Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

International2014 wrote:
No it's definitely not dark! Good range of lighting there. As someone also mentioned, your monitor or device just might be set too dim.

Also another note on the technical side: a lot of professional photographers have their monitors calibrated for purposes of print accuracy so what you're seeing on your screen is most likely a bit slightly different from what he's seeing on his.

Thank you smile

ELENA

Jul 14 14 10:35 pm Link

Model

Elena Antonia Pappas

Posts: 946

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Magda Kulpinska wrote:
Its a cool pic, but being a model I know what you mean and I understand your concern.

It looks somewhat arty. I have been told by industry pro's (and ignored the advice) that this kind of photo might not be the best to put in a portfolio. They'd probably be looking at something more commercial, i.e. seeing more of your face and your eyes looking into the camera.

Anyone has come across similar opinions?

I really thought it was too dark, but my Agency added it to my portfolio immediately..Just shows you smile

Jul 14 14 10:38 pm Link

Artist/Painter

Augustine

Posts: 1153

Los Angeles, California, US

3068875 wrote:
No.

Okay, I changed my mind.

Yes! It's too dark!

Jul 14 14 11:41 pm Link

Photographer

Danny DD

Posts: 347

Baarle-Hertog, Antwerp, Belgium

The lines and glow in your hair still show, the shape of your head and body go over into the dark background pretty smoothly.  So not too dark I think.  Like someone else mentionned: it's different from the rest of your photos, so compared to those it is dark, but put it in a dark series and it isn't.  Hope that makes sense smile

Jul 15 14 12:01 am Link

Photographer

Pantelis Palios

Posts: 252

Maldon, England, United Kingdom

Tu! *while head moves up*

Jul 15 14 12:39 am Link

Photographer

Speakeasy Boudoir

Posts: 39

Chicago, Illinois, US

I like it. Definitely not too dark.

Jul 15 14 03:53 pm Link