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Star

Posts: 17966

Los Angeles, California, US

As a make-up artist or hair stylist how long were you working before you felt you could make a decent living at it? And by it I do mean the genre of work you are doing it in. So as an example maybe one person was working for 7 years before they felt they were really "making it" as an onset film make-up artist. Or 2 years to "make it" as a bridal hair stylist.

Jul 25 14 01:24 pm Link

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Danielle Blazer

Posts: 846

Los Angeles, California, US

The first round when I was young and things were different: after years of apprenticing once I struck out on my own 2 years in print, 1 in theater and film. The second round, many years later after a break to have some babies: back in theater immediately, back to print and getting published internationally again regularly in 2, just dabbling in film again because there's not as much of it where I live. But I'm coming back to LA in a couple months permanently!

Jul 25 14 02:39 pm Link

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MUA Janine

Posts: 242

San Francisco, California, US

I guess that really depends on the region that you work in. There are a ton of pro MUAs/hair stylists in LA "making it" full time between sets and salons. Same for makeup artists...but I feel like freelancing 100% full time is something that not everyone is lucky enough to do.

Jul 30 14 02:07 am Link

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Jenni Defalco

Posts: 456

Stevenage, England, United Kingdom

4 years in bridal x

Aug 06 14 01:37 am Link

Hair Stylist

Keila Sone

Posts: 129

Harrison, New Jersey, US

1 year as freelance bridal hair stylist.

Aug 06 14 08:25 pm Link

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Thomas Van Dyke

Posts: 3233

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Star wrote:
As a make-up artist or hair stylist how long were you working before you felt you could make a decent living at it?

Star you're possibly querying in the wrong place... Get yourself down to the finest Mall in LA and visit the counters of Nordstrom, Saks and/or Lord & Taylor... It is there you will actually find career persons...

While I was in training two of my instructors worked these high end retail counters... it was AMAZING the commissions they pulled in over a good weekend... serious amazing...  though I licensed and have worked salons I never did the high end retail scene... it is where the "lifers" reside...

The steady work is in sales... Mary's CRC is on-line (high volume, low margin) while the Nordstrom crew are low volume high margin... only you can decide which works best for you...

Have done it all and my fav is still agency gigs for corporate shoots/video... primarily male grooming (yes there is a glass ceiling), very few female corporate CEO's  (at least that's been my experience)

I'm about done with Bridal... weary of the abuse... enough said...

Wannabees... tenured wisdom: get your estheticians license if you are even remotely serious about pursuing agency representation (also holds for high end counter work)... ignore this and enjoy life as a freelancer... 

Hope this helps...

All the best on your journey...

Aug 09 14 01:52 pm Link

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Alannah The Stylist

Posts: 1550

Los Angeles, California, US

Thomas Van Dyke wrote:

Star you're possibly querying in the wrong place... Get yourself down to the finest Mall in LA and visit the counters of Nordstrom, Saks and/or Lord & Taylor... It is there you will actually find career persons...

While I was in training two of my instructors worked these high end retail counters... it was AMAZING the commissions they pulled in over a good weekend... serious amazing...  though I licensed and have worked salons I never did the high end retail scene... it is where the "lifers" reside...

The steady work is in sales... Mary's CRC is on-line (high volume, low margin) while the Nordstrom crew are low volume high margin... only you can decide which works best for you...

Have done it all and my fav is still agency gigs for corporate shoots/video... primarily male grooming (yes there is a glass ceiling), very few female corporate CEO's  (at least that's been my experience)

I'm about done with Bridal... weary of the abuse... enough said...

Wannabees... tenured wisdom: get your estheticians license if you are even remotely serious about pursuing agency representation (also holds for high end counter work)... ignore this and enjoy life as a freelancer... 

Hope this helps...

All the best on your journey...

Very dismissive to the other Mua's and hairstylist that replied on this post.....

Aug 09 14 10:47 pm Link

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TheMakeupMan

Posts: 3799

Los Angeles, California, US

Star wrote:
As a make-up artist or hair stylist how long were you working before you felt you could make a decent living at it? And by it I do mean the genre of work you are doing it in. So as an example maybe one person was working for 7 years before they felt they were really "making it" as an onset film make-up artist. Or 2 years to "make it" as a bridal hair stylist.

hmmmmmmm, 30 years in the industry ......... ill let you know when ive made it lol

id say around 5 years to build enough sustainable clients , that being said , I still dont feel like ive made it , yes I make a living at it "full time" but I dont work full time, sometimes I feel this is the best deal ever , other times im wondering why I didnt get a career with a steady paycheck and benifits, sometimes Im super busy, other times im wondering if Illl ever work again 
There are easier ways to make money , I really believe one does makeup becouse thats what one has to do in order to be happy

it ebbs and flows ..............

Aug 12 14 08:17 am Link