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How punctual are you? How often are you late? Does it bother you if/when you are late? How do you feel when people are late to meet you? What strategies do you use to encourage people to be on time? If Johnny Manziel shows up late to a scheduled team meeting, should he be punished? Aug 15 14 07:42 am Link My father was obsessive with regards to showing up on time -- indeed, he'd show up as much as three hours early. Being so early was very annoying, too. So, I am very punctual, and I am very rarely late, but I'm rarely early, too. I do get anxious if I think I'm going to be late. I was an early adopter of PDAs -- I had a pocket sized PC way back in 1995, and it had a calendar & a clock with an alarm. It was a great tool, and I don't think I was ever late when I had that thing strapped to my belt. I do admit that I get a little anxious when people are late for meeting me, but I'm patient, and I usually have something at hand to keep me busy & occupied. When I worked for a Fortune 50 company, I'd have a weekly status meeting first thing in the morning, where the key people on the project would share status & we'd develop plans. I usually brought bagels in for the meeting, but when the meeting start time arrived, I'd take the bagels away, so the stragglers wouldn't get any. (Nearly) Never Late. Aug 15 14 07:49 am Link I'll allow lateness as I know the subways and buses here cannot be relied on. I've left the house and hour early and I still get to the same destination late as if I left the house a half hour later. It really depends on the day and time of day to judge when you'll get to your destination and I recognize that the people I work with don't come out to my area everyday so they can't possibly know. If it's a time restricted project then I give ample warning and am perturbed if they are late. Aug 15 14 07:50 am Link I'm nearly always on time because I will leave early just in case of unforeseen events, like traffic, that way when that does happen, which is often I'm either 15 mins early or so or on time. I like to be 15 mins early. If I'm getting to a shoot or an appointment even just right on time my stomach is in knots because I don't want to be the cause of a delay, I want to be there and ready to go at the start time. If there isn't traffic and I end up being early I run errands until the time which really helps out because I rarely have the spare time for that. Being late is really obnoxious unless there's a very real reason for it. I hate being late, I really value my time and others. Aug 15 14 07:54 am Link I am never late, I always leave early in case something happens, traffic, or an unexpected need to stop (construction, gas, etc) Usually where I need to be 15 min early mostly a few minutes earlier. I have relative though that will be late to their own funeral, they were both late to their wedding, so no surprise, lol.. Aug 15 14 08:04 am Link Late was my middle name when going to school or work (i.e. morning wakeup) most of my life. (never resolved sleep problem) For times unrelated to waking up, it was kept down to a low roar usually. (15 min or less) Got a lot better in the last 15 yrs. Professional appts. such as doctor, lawyer, etc. I'm pretty much on time, I trick myself. If someone is coming to me (lets say model shoot) I'm ok with 15 or less. Anything more, someone better call. People who show up earlier than 5 minutes ahead of time, makes my head hurt. Depending on whom they are, and what the thing is, I've said leave and come back in 20 minutes, the time you're supposed to be here. I let people know that too, please do NOT show up more than 5 minutes early, if that. I'd rather you be 5-10 minutes late. Aug 15 14 08:12 am Link Im almost always late. Put my husband and I together and theres not a chance in the world we'll be on time. I tell our friends and family that if they want us somewhere on time they need to lie about when we need to be there by at least an hour, but nobody listens to me I only get upset when people are late if they're extremely late, or whatever is going on is extremely time-sensitive and I really need them to be on time, and *I* actually managed to be on time. I know its a bit hypocritical to be upset when others are late if Im always late, but I also feel like if *I* actually managed to be on time/not that late, since Im so fucking bad at it, then others should be able to handle it too, cuz Im kind of the queen of it. Most of the time though Im a little relieved if someone else is late, so that I dont have to be the bad guy. And I get to avoid them a little bit longer. Aug 15 14 09:22 am Link If you live in, or near, LA - and anybody is driving - you have to allow for a LOT of late arrivals. I spent a lot of my childhood waiting on a parent that was chronically late - and I know how much it affected me - so I personally overcompensate and am VERY detailed on being on time when ever possible. Aug 15 14 09:26 am Link I always like to be early being late is really embarrassing in my opinion. I hate my mother in law because she always is late for everything. I will tell her something is 2 hours earlier for her to arrive on time. Aug 15 14 09:39 am Link Laura UnBound wrote: I always lie to people like that about the time. I have an ex-bf who I lied to about a doctors appoint he offered to take me to by 2 hours and we got there just on time. Good thing or I would've had have paid for the missed appointment. It was funny he was all stressed out because he thought we were 2 hrs late. He seemed to panic all of the time about being late for anything, yet he always was. Aug 15 14 01:19 pm Link I am never late to anything if I am not depending on someone else to go along or pick me up. Virtually every model I shoot comes out of the LA area and very rarely is one of them late. Most often they have been to Starbucks down the street killing time. Gotta love those Traveling Models. Aug 15 14 02:39 pm Link A-M-P wrote: I had a mother-in-law like that, but I cured her. Aug 15 14 02:44 pm Link I'm late sometimes and there's almost never an excuse. I try to get round it by giving windows. Instead of arranging to be somewhere at 10,30 I will arrange it for between 10 and 11. That's for work. Socially I get anxious if I am running late. Aug 15 14 02:46 pm Link I hate being late. I hate when my kids are late and especially when my ex is late(LOL). I hated being late so much in college I would just skip the class. Being late gets me all frazzled. Aug 15 14 02:49 pm Link If someone is chronically late for meeting up to me, I wouldn't lie in order to get them to be on-time. I would be direct & clear, letting them know that it's a big issue for me. If they continue to be late, I may structure things so that I'm occupied while waiting. But if, for example, I'm going to meet someone at the movies, and they are late, I just might get myself a ticket & go in alone -- they can do whatever they want when they show up. If I say I'm going to drive on a trip with someone, leaving by a certain time, I may give them a little grace period, but I just might go on without them. If this continues to happen, we just might not be making plans together. But I would not try to manipulate them with lies, and I would certainly hate it if they lied to me. That's just not something I would consider doing. So yes, chronic tardiness bugs me that much. If someone is often late for me, I'll eventually feel that I can't rely on them. And heaven help anyone who makes me late! Aug 15 14 02:56 pm Link If you are early, you are on-time if you are on-time, you are late if you are late, you are fired Aug 15 14 03:10 pm Link People who are habitually late have no regard for other people's time. I can't work with them. Aug 15 14 03:34 pm Link I'm usually late 90% of the time. I try NOT to be late but sometimes 15 left before I need to leave turns into oh shit I should have left 20 minutes ago! Disclaimer: When shooting, I'm usually the one sitting around waiting on the photographer to show up Aug 15 14 04:09 pm Link DougBPhoto wrote: That's bullshit for 99% of hourly jobs. You're not even allowed to clock in more than 5 minutes early. Aug 15 14 04:15 pm Link Ever since my daughter was born (in 1992), I've been late for everything except college classes, and any other musical performances, and modeling gigs. I have no explanation other than the things I enjoy, I prepare for, and the things I don't, I don't care. Fuck you, hated things! Aug 15 14 04:22 pm Link Alabaster Crowley wrote: I don't recall that the OP was asking about when you're supposed to punch in on a time clock. Aug 15 14 04:26 pm Link Looknsee Photography wrote: As a photographer, I have yet to be late when shooting location or at my home studio. I've done over 200 location shoots. Most of them are at Santa Monica and I live in Upland, CA. Aug 15 14 05:30 pm Link DougBPhoto wrote: Yeppers (and I've fired a few in my time). Aug 15 14 05:53 pm Link I have pretty terrible luck with timeliness. I swear the world likes me to be 5-10 minutes late. I leave 5 minutes later than I should have, 5-10 minutes late. I leave on time, 5-10 minutes late. I leave 30 minutes early, 5-10 minutes late. Luckily, in LA, 5ish minutes isn't usually even considered late. I always keep everyone informed. If it's something with strict time constraints, I get there literally an hour early and grab coffee or something beforehand. I don't get too annoyed when people are late because, generally I understand it's probably traffic or something and there are much worse things in life to worry about. If they are 15 minutes late and haven't responded, I start to get anxious that they might not show. If they are over 30 minutes late without a good reason and consistent communication, I start to get mad. In LA I've seen people show up over an hour late and just say, "Oh. Sorry." Aug 15 14 05:54 pm Link I'm typically on time or a few minuets early.. If I'm going to be more than 5 mins late I'll usually try to call or text to let them know I'm in transit.. As to others, I expect them to be the same way.. I feel you should figure how long it should take you to get somewhere and add a buffer.. To not do so is irresponsible. Aug 15 14 05:54 pm Link Alabaster Crowley wrote: Be very very happy that you've never worked for me. I've very happily gone to some extremes to help employees in a bind. I've also shit-canned them without a second thought for being late. Clock time, BTW, has NOTHING to do with being ON TIME. Aug 15 14 05:57 pm Link Danielle Reid wrote: Yeah, this ^^^ Aug 15 14 07:28 pm Link For the most part, I HATE when people are late. When you make plans with a friend, and they show up 30 minutes late, they're basically just shitting on you, unless there's some really, really genuine reason (like they stepped in dog shit on the way out the door, then had to go wash their shoes, then forgot their wallet next to sink and had to go back and get it). New Englanders are basically pretty punctual. I'm grateful for that. When I lived in North Carolina, time was totally arbitrary. I stopped making plans to meet people at specific places, at specific times, because they'd always be an hour late, and I'd miss half the show I planned to see, waiting on them. Either that, or if you went over to their house, to carpool to some kind of outing, someone would want to "pregame," by having a few drinks at home, then pregaming turned into breaking out the bong. Then, breaking out the bong turned into watching Futurama episodes, then no one went anywhere, and I fucking.hated.that.shit. Especially because I'd always gotten showered and dressed, and had tickets, and was excited about actually doing something fun. When I lived in NC, I'd just go out alone, and hoped that some time during the night, maybe one friend would show up eventually. Aug 15 14 07:28 pm Link Being on time is paramount for me. I'm usually a little early if anything. Friends should be respectful of MY time. I don't appreciate the hurry up just to wait vibe unless I am being paid. Film production is notorious for the hurry up and wait factor. One time I was meeting a guy for the first time. I was in the city and took a train to the shore. I had my headphones on, all excited... I get off the train (1.5 hours away) and he wasn't there. The feeling that came over me was awful. I called him and he lost track of time. He picked me up and being the person I am, quickly let it go. When I arrived at his house, it was clear that he wanted to impress me with the atmosphere. It would have been cool if the date started 'on time' than me internally thinking to myself, 'oh shit'. Aug 15 14 10:00 pm Link Lohkee wrote: It has everything to do with my pay check though. Unless that extra 10 minutes of sitting in the parking lot wasting gas will be added to my pay check then I'll spend it else where Aug 15 14 11:21 pm Link i'll admit it. when i saw the thread title, i was like "mousseline is at it again." and i'm always early to appointments. i learned 'vince lombardi time' as a 5yo, and it stuck. unfortunately, i can't set my smartphone clock to 15 minutes ahead. now i have to do that math in my head. i hate not being able to wear a watch anymore. Aug 16 14 12:35 am Link I'm very seldom late and when I am it's almost always out of my control, for example, road works or an accident delaying traffic. I try to be about 15 to 20 minutes early. This gives me a cushion, in the event of something unexpected happening. My ex wife liked to be late. She loved the idea of people waiting for her and then making the grand entrance. It was the cause of many arguments and one night when I complained, she asked why I didn't go away without her, so I did. It's a bit odd turning up an your in-laws, without you wife and her arriving on an hour and a half later, by taxi but it got the point across. I did it twice more and after that she was almost always ready on time, especially if it had something to do with her family. I don't mind people being a little late or only late once in a while, anything can happen and delay them but someone who is late all the time shows no respect for the people he's meeting. Aug 16 14 05:19 am Link i think any model or photographer should be on time, it's only right and proper, leave enough time to get to your appointment on time, not a good thing to be late, that goes for any job Aug 16 14 05:37 am Link Alabaster Crowley wrote: You must not have worked many hourly jobs. Aug 16 14 07:35 am Link Koryn wrote: Reminds me of a story -- I went to grad school in UNC (Chapel Hill, NC). There was a day when a recruiter from a great company was on campus conducting interviews, and everyone in the department signed up. At the time, I lived in a farmhouse a few miles out of town. Aug 16 14 08:56 am Link Alabaster Crowley wrote: Cherrystone wrote: The hourly "clock in" type jobs I've had, you had to wait until the computer said EXACTLY the time you were scheduled for, and then you could punch in. Aug 16 14 09:26 am Link There is more to a job than just clocking in. I've owned businesses with hourly employees. People are just about never ready to work the moment that they walk in the door. For example, I used to have an employee that we called Miss Bare Minimum because she made something of an art form of the doing the bare minimum amount of work required to keep her job. She needed to clock in at 10AM, so she timed her commute so she would walk in the door at 9:59. After clocking in at 10, she would start her daily routine of personal, but paid rituals beginning with a ten minute stay in the bathroom immediately after clocking in. Then the 5-10 minute preparation of her first cup of coffee and organizing her purse followed up by a personal phone call or two. It was unusual that she did any actual work before about 10:20. Taking time to decompress from a commute and taking care of personal business before clocking in is one of the reasons that employers like to see people show up 10 or 15 minutes early. Aug 16 14 10:04 am Link Danielle Reid wrote: Well, I disagree. Even freelancers can easily loose clients by not being punctual. Loosing clients affects your paycheck, right? Aug 16 14 10:14 am Link Koryn wrote: Alabaster Crowley wrote: The hourly "clock in" type jobs I've had, you had to wait until the computer said EXACTLY the time you were scheduled for, and then you could punch in. Yes, those types of attitudes are more common... Aug 16 14 10:21 am Link MDWM wrote: This. Aug 16 14 10:34 am Link |