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Looknsee Photography

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Portland, Oregon, US

I really believe that art (or the potential for art) surrounds us all the time, and there are some artful things that go unrecognized & unappreciated.  For example:

...  In movies, TV shows, and even commercials, I think there is an unnamed art form in selected the perfect song for the dramatic moment.  Think about all those long scenes without dialog -- someone selected & placed the music that enhances the scene.  That's art.

...  I think that ergonomics (engineering for humans) can be an art.  For example, I love my Sekonic light meter, but the "read the light" button is poorly placed, and configuring the meter is clunky & complicated.

...  I believe that there is art in the creation of spreadsheets.  A good spreadsheet should be easy to use, easy to understand, and should help users avoid any input errors.  The best ones can take lots of low level data & summarize it in a meaningful way.



What are some of your unnamed or under-appreciated art forms?

Aug 24 14 11:13 am Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

The first few minutes of the first episode of season three of The Walking Dead has no dialogue but perfectly conveys what's going on between all of the characters and sets the tone for the whole season. But there's no music either. It's brilliant.

Aug 24 14 11:53 am Link

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Bobby C

Posts: 2696

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

A lie.

Aug 24 14 12:01 pm Link

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roger alan

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Anderson, Indiana, US

In the making of a movie or TV program...employing various elements so as to appeal to a wide range of viewers divided  by gender, age, intelligence level, etc.

The most obvious example is casting of attractive people. I have noticed that when there are two hot babes in a program they will almost always have different hair color and very different personalities, to appeal to different types of guys I would guess.

Animated children's shows often include various type of humor that would not be understood by the kids but is there to entertain adults. Rocky and Bullwinkle, Bugs Bunny...I am sure the list would be long.

Aug 24 14 01:02 pm Link

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L O C U T U S

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Bangor, Maine, US

Bobby C wrote:
A lie.

very true

Aug 24 14 01:08 pm Link

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kickfight

Posts: 35054

Portland, Oregon, US

Sound mixing (especially for music, but not necessarily limited to music) is IMHO an underappreciated artform. Obviously there is great artistry in the writing and performing of great music, but there is a far more subtle art in making great music convey its greatness as effectively as possible.

Aug 24 14 01:10 pm Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Bobby C wrote:
A lie.

Lots of people think that they can tell a believable lie.
A few of them are right.

Aug 24 14 01:30 pm Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Maybe this doesn't qualify as under-appreciated, but I think voice acting (i.e. voicing a cartoon character or a Darth Vader), is a very impressive art form.

Aug 24 14 01:32 pm Link

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r T p

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Los Angeles, California, US


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Model MoRina

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MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica

Handcuffs

Shoes

Aug 24 14 02:12 pm Link

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Monad Studios

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Santa Rosa, California, US

Aug 24 14 03:27 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

Editing:


David Lean has described how the oldest of old chestnuts might
be treated.

Imagine two shots :

1. Laurel and Hardy running along a street in full-figure shot. After
running for 15 seconds or so, Hardy slips and falls on the pavement.

2. Close-up of banana skin lying on the pavement. After a few moments
Hardy's foot comes into picture, treads on the skin and slips.

Now where would you cut the close-up of the banana skin ? . . . The
answer is nothing to do with a smooth cut . . . Looking at these two shots
from a purely smooth cut point of view, it would seem that the best place to
cut the close up of the banana skin would be the point at which the foot
entered picture, carrying it on until halfway through the skid at which point one would cut back to the medium shot as Hardy crashes on to the pavement.
Both cuts would be very smooth and the audience would laugh as Hardy
fell, but they would not be getting the biggest laugh possible out of the scene.
The answer lies in a very old comedy maxim : Tell them what you're going
to do. Do it. Tell them you've done it. In other words the scene should be cut
like this :

1. Medium-shot of Laurel and Hardy running along the street.

2. Close-up of banana skin lying on pavement. (You have told your
audience what you are going to do and they will start to laugh.)

3. Medium-shot of Laurel and Hardy still running. (The audience will
laugh still more.) Hold the shot on for several seconds of running
before Hardy finally crashes to the pavement. (The odds are that the
audience will reward you with a belly laugh. Having told them what
you are going to do, and having done it, how do you tell them you've
done it ?)

4. A close-up of Laurel making an inane gesture of despair. (The audience
will laugh again.)


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The Technique of Film Editing
Karel Reisz

Aug 24 14 05:34 pm Link

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J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

Selective dog breeding.
Pugs are serious art.

Aug 24 14 05:37 pm Link

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scrymettet

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Quebec, Quebec, Canada

conversation

Aug 24 14 05:39 pm Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

scrymettet wrote:
conversation

This! ^^

And opera.

Aug 24 14 05:44 pm Link

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highStrangeness

Posts: 2485

Carmichael, California, US

Fractal art.  It wasn't really recognized until the mid-to-late 1990s, I think.

Aug 24 14 05:49 pm Link

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Lovely Day Media

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Vineland, New Jersey, US

I think an under appreciated art is what most people refer to as a slideshow.

It's true that they aren't that hard to do and anyone who puts in a little time can get one done. It's also true that anyone who owns a camera and knows how to press the shutter button can call themselves a photographer.  Are they really? It all depends on how good they are.

With slideshows, there is software that can do a pretty good job of putting it together, but what if someone wants something that's special or custom (not based on some algorithm)?  It seems most people think it's "easy" and a 5 minute finished video file took 5 minutes to put it together. 

If only that were true ...

Aug 27 14 09:08 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Lovely Day Media wrote:
I think an under appreciated art is what most people refer to as a slideshow.

It's true that they aren't that hard to do and anyone who puts in a little time can get one done. It's also true that anyone who owns a camera and knows how to press the shutter button can call themselves a photographer.  Are they really? It all depends on how good they are.

With slideshows, there is software that can do a pretty good job of putting it together, but what if someone wants something that's special or custom (not based on some algorithm)?  It seems most people think it's "easy" and a 5 minute finished video file took 5 minutes to put it together. 

If only that were true ...

I've never once seen a slideshow and thought, "That's a fine piece of artwork."

Aug 27 14 09:33 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

J Jessica wrote:
Selective dog breeding.
Pugs are serious art.

Breeding kills shelter animals. Selective breeding (inbreeding) causes genetic problems.

Aug 27 14 09:34 pm Link

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Lovely Day Media

Posts: 5885

Vineland, New Jersey, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
I've never once seen a slideshow and thought, "That's a fine piece of artwork."

Perhaps you've never seen one of mine. smile OR ... maybe you've never attempted to do it yourself so you had no idea just how much time, effort, energy, blood, sweat and beer goes into it (if one chooses to invest these things ... I don't personally do the blood or beer, but you get the idea).

Aug 27 14 11:31 pm Link