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Model

samanthablack5422

Posts: 3

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Hello again,

We are happy to inform you that you are one of the few models chosen out of the screening exercise performed for us by model mayhem, you have got the necessary Requirements we need for our Magazine update (www.hellomagazine.com) September 2014 issue, We here by decided as a committee to offer you this modelling pay job, I will be very happy if you could send me some of your work. My client wants to update her Catalog with her Midyear Release Fashion outfits and I'm interested in you for the professional shooting no nudity, fetish, bondage, escort and other adult content stuff. So if you are interested you can get back to me. The shoot will held at a rented photographers studio very close to your location, the shoot will be 2hrs daily, we would be responsible for your transport and feeding throughout the photo shoot, the invitation letter would be mailed to you, You have the opportunity to bring along an assistant which we would handle the expenses along with your own just for you to feel comfortable throughout the shoot.

JOB DETAILS:
Outfit will be provided by our wardrobe stylist on the day of the shooting and the shoot is just for 2 days and you will be paid $1100 for the whole project, the Job is Urgent so you are to get back to us as soon as possible so that we can arrange on how to get you the part payment, meet the stylists and other crew members. You would be paid the initial payment of $500 to guarantee your participation in the shoot, as part of our working policy and ethics of our company, we give part payment to any client before we proceed with any job and balance immediately after the work.As I told you earlier this project is very urgent we will be taking care of your payment, accommodation and other expenses. The part payment would be mailed directly to you along side with the wardrobe stylist allowance, shoes and costume fee for the shoot.Location, time and date will be made known to you soon, this is to ensure that we pick a convenient time and place for the shoot
NOTE: As soon as you get the payment, you will deduct $500 and send the remaining balance to the wardrobe stylist. The wardrobe stylist will contact you as soon as she receives all your information from us, if you are interested kindly get back to us with your details as follows:

MODEL'S INFORMATION
1. Name:
2. Studio name (optional
3. Years of experience:
4. Phone#:
5.Address:
6. Cities:
7. State:
8. Zip Code

PAYMENT INFORMATION
1. Name on check:
2. Complete Mailing Address:
3. Cities:
4 State:
5. Zip Code:

REQUIRED EQUIPMENT:
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I hereby represent and warrant that the above information is true and Kindly know that PO Box is not applicable.

Thanks
Durwin

Aug 24 14 06:49 pm Link

Photographer

Wicked LA Pix

Posts: 2418

Yucaipa, California, US

YUP- Definitely a scam. Can't believe people actually fall for this!!

Aug 24 14 06:55 pm Link

Model

samanthablack5422

Posts: 3

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Well I'm new so I didn't know.
But thanks....

Aug 24 14 07:02 pm Link

Photographer

KenMalPhotos

Posts: 6792

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Moderator Note!
samanthablack5422

This is a scam please contact the Moderators at this link


Contact-A-Mod https://www.modelmayhem.com/contactamod

Aug 24 14 07:40 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 11727

Olney, Maryland, US

"The shoot will held at a rented photographers studio very close to your location,"

So easier to bring their entire crew to you than to pay your transportation. LOL

"As soon as you get the payment, you will deduct $500 and send the remaining balance to the wardrobe stylist."

This is the scam.  Why would they send money to an internet stranger?  Their check will bounce and your bank will come after you for the full amount.

Aug 24 14 08:07 pm Link

Photographer

mophotoart

Posts: 2118

Wichita, Kansas, US

scam...notify....goes on and on

Aug 24 14 08:15 pm Link

Model

Raj Dave gqstyles

Posts: 35

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

These types of fakes send this typical email to all new models who join this website and the moderators should do something to block this.
I got exactly this same email & fortunately reported to moderators. The account gets inactivated and then they create a new account.
My problem is how they are able to create accounts on this site with so much ease!

Aug 24 14 08:39 pm Link

Photographer

Filles de Pin-up

Posts: 3218

Wichita, Kansas, US

If you are unsure about something, that is what the newbie forum is for. To ask questions others may consider silly. It is better to be safe than sorry.

Basically, they send you a fake bogus check. You deposit it, and write a valid check to them. They cash your check quickly, and their check bounces. The bank of course honors your valid check, but you might not have the money. Now you have a hot check for a large amount. Very bad situation. If you have the money in your account from other funds, then they get your money and run. You might be able to put a stop payment on the check, but I am pretty sure they run the check to the bank to cash it pretty fast.

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Aug 24 14 09:07 pm Link

Photographer

Top Gun Digital

Posts: 1528

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

According to your profile you have "no experience".  Realistically, no one is going to pay $1100 to work with a model that has no experience.  That was the first clue this is a scam.

If you had responded they would send you a check to cash and forward most of the money to someone else.  Their check would eventually bounce and you would lose the money you had forwarded.

Aug 24 14 09:13 pm Link

Photographer

Flex Photography

Posts: 6471

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

Nigerian Scam

Do not reply!
Do not give your email address!
Do not give other contact info!

Aug 24 14 09:31 pm Link

Model

samanthablack5422

Posts: 3

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

I just got this one too
[email protected]

Hey Samantha,

How are you doing today? Fine i hope. Thanks for the prompt email. My name is Brian Fortney, and i am the recruiting agent for the upcoming photo shoot. Well the magazine "CRASH MAGAZINE" is just a new magazine in the United States with it's 1st edition to be out in a couple of months time and we would want you to be in the first launch of the magazine. It is not a must that you are experienced, but all we need is a good posture of you to give a better shoot.

DATE AND TIME:
This exposition is going to be held on the 13th of September in Tampa, Florida. The photo shoot will commence at 12:00 PM noon and end at 3:00 PM which would take you complete 3 hours.

PROJECT DETAILS:
This project is organized by the magazine company and is basically a photo shoot to display latest European & American fashions and designers for commercial purpose and be informed that it is an outdoor show and will be publicized.

JOB PAYMENT:
The company are going to pay you the sum of $400 as hourly shooting rate which means your shoot for the 3hours will be $1,200 and the payment will be paid to you immediately you are done with the shoot.

COMPENSATION FEE:
You will be given a compensation fee of $200 with your payment immediately after the shoot in case of any inconveniences.

ESCORT
As a matter of choice, you can bring along any one of your choice to the shooting venue as your escort and the company will be responsible for their well being and flight ticket also.

MAKE UP ARTIST AND PHOTOGRAPHER:
The company has personal photographers and makeup artist, so we have made all necessary arrangement for your good looking on that day and also our photographers are available to give you best directive.

REQUIREMENT(S):
You are not required to do any make up on your own because the company has provided a make up artist to cover that aspect and you are to attach along your good looking photo, at least one(1) photo.

TRAVELING EXPENSES:
All traveling Expenses like Food/Accommodation/ with the flight ticket to-and-fro will be covered by the company and arrangements will be made immediately your details is received.

(PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY)
Please be notified that you would be mailed a paycheck which will cover your flight expenses, and the check would also include payment for the Wardrobe Manager/Makeup Artist so as to get the makeup stuff you will be modeling with ready before the shoot.  So after deducting your flight payment the remainder will be remitted to the Wardrobe Manager. If you agree with this and you are ready to carry out this exercise kindly get back to me with the information below and we also want you to take your time and read the instructions carefully because we are not here to make a hoax of our job and we wouldn't want a model that received our payment say he/she is no longer interested and if such a thing happens, we shall hand it over to the Local Authorities because they are involved and follow us for security purpose.

PAYMENT INFORMATION:

Full Name to be written on check :...
Residence address (Not Po. Box) :....
City :...............................
State :..............................
Zip Code :...........................
Mobile Phone Number :................
home phone Number :..................
Nearest Airport :....................
Health Condition :...................
Age :................................
Other Occupations :..................
Experience :.........................
Shoe Size :..........................
Bust :...............................
Waist :..............................
Hips :...............................
Height :.............................
Your Email in Use:...................

Regards!

Aug 25 14 08:22 am Link

Photographer

PANHEAD PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 1648

San Francisco, California, US

I notice a pattern here

Seems like who ever is sending
Out these email scams
Simply filters newbies

Wouldn't it be smart
If the Mayhem would just
Inform newbies about this
For the very beginning

Something along the lines of

Congratulations you've been excepted to model mayhem
Expect a email scam shortly
Nobody's going to pay an amateur model
A ridiculous amount of money.

And then make them read every scam post in the forums oh 1 million of them

Aug 25 14 08:32 am Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 11727

Olney, Maryland, US

samanthablack5422 wrote:
I just got this one too
[email protected]

.. .

You didn't learn from the responses to your first post?

PANHEAD PHOTOGRAPHY  wrote:
Wouldn't it be smart
If the Mayhem would just
Inform newbies about this
For the very beginning

I think that MM should send a Forum Guide or an Admin to every new model and beat them with a 2x4 until they read this warning at the top of the Newbie forum:

NEW MODELS; Learn about scams
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=575330

Also the red "Avoid Scams" button on the "my stuff" page.

Aug 26 14 01:04 pm Link

Photographer

DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Wicked LA Pix wrote:
YUP- Definitely a scam. Can't believe people actually fall for this!!

It is a UK magazine...but why? would? they? call? me?

Aug 26 14 01:08 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 11727

Olney, Maryland, US

Wicked LA Pix wrote:
YUP- Definitely a scam. Can't believe people actually fall for this!!

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
It is a UK magazine...but why? would? they? call? me?

"The shoot will held at a rented photographers studio very close to your location."
They are going to transport their team 1/2 of the way around the world!  LOL

Aug 26 14 01:15 pm Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

PANHEAD PHOTOGRAPHY  wrote:
Seems like who ever is sending
Out these email scams
Simply filters newbies
Wouldn't it be smart
If the Mayhem would just
Inform newbies about this
For the very beginning

No, it should be on the members or members want to be responsibility.

I have been saying in the 'post suggested new features that all new members must read and pass a test/qizz on 'how to avoid scam' before their profiles approved. If they don't want to read that, they simply have no business to be here.

Aug 26 14 01:42 pm Link

Photographer

Kent Art Photography

Posts: 3588

Ashford, England, United Kingdom

Mark Salo wrote:

samanthablack5422 wrote:
I just got this one too
[email protected]

.. .

You didn't learn from the responses to your first post?


I think that MM should send a Forum Guide or an Admin to every new model and beat them with a 2x4 until they read this warning at the top of the Newbie forum:

NEW MODELS; Learn about scams
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=575330

Also the red "Avoid Scams" button on the "my stuff" page.

I would nominate for the job Filles de Pin-up, who posted a few posts above you, and who seems to regularly post good stuff for Newbs.

Aug 26 14 01:59 pm Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

RE: having a MOD or FG contact newbies, would that we could, but if we did, we'd literally have no time for our own lives, let alone discharging our other MM duties.

Frankly this is an area where the membership as a whole can do a much better job than the administration, simply because there is a certain amount of "they're just a bunch of old poops" inevitably assigned to the administration by a lot of newbies (especially if it comes in the form of unsolicited advice), whereas advice, warnings, good suggestions from you, the membership as a whole, the guys in the trenches, if you will, what you're all doing right now, as a matter of fact, is often more acceptable and therefore more beneficial to the newbies than all the stickies, edu articles and Mod or FG notes in the world.

So please, keep on doing what you're doing and keep getting the word out.  Kudos to all of you!  You really are the backbone that keeps MM upright.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Aug 26 14 02:18 pm Link

Photographer

Filles de Pin-up

Posts: 3218

Wichita, Kansas, US

Rays Fine Art wrote:
RE: having a MOD or FG contact newbies, would that we could, but if we did, we'd literally have no time for our own lives, let alone discharging our other MM duties.

It could be programmed as part of the gatekeeper approval process so that as soon as the approval goes through, it sends a welcome to the mayhem message with information about scams. It could at least tell them how to contact a mod if they get something phishy.

Rays Fine Art wrote:
Frankly this is an area where the membership as a whole can do a much better job than the administration, simply because there is a certain amount of "they're just a bunch of old poops" inevitably assigned to the administration by a lot of newbies (especially if it comes in the form of unsolicited advice), whereas advice, warnings, good suggestions from you, the membership as a whole, the guys in the trenches, if you will, what you're all doing right now, as a matter of fact, is often more acceptable and therefore more beneficial to the newbies than all the stickies, edu articles and Mod or FG notes in the world.

Unfortunately this is reactionary. People have a strong emotional response to getting a message that says they have been discovered and unfortunately their brain shuts off. After sending a bunch of info, the euphoria passes and they realize it is too good to be true. Then they post here after some damage is done. It would be nice if recognizing fraud was covered in an economics course in high school. Fraud is pretty common on the Internet.

Rays Fine Art wrote:
So please, keep on doing what you're doing and keep getting the word out.  Kudos to all of you!  You really are the backbone that keeps MM upright.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Aug 26 14 07:58 pm Link

Model

LaurenElyse

Posts: 70

Lee's Summit, Missouri, US

gqstyles wrote:
These types of fakes send this typical email to all new models who join this website and the moderators should do something to block this.
I got exactly this same email & fortunately reported to moderators. The account gets inactivated and then they create a new account.
My problem is how they are able to create accounts on this site with so much ease!

I know right! You would think a site like this would have some type of blocker or that they would be able to weed out scams and more closely look at suspicious accounts. Hopefully, people report scams. They have similar scams on Craigslist that don't have anything to do with modeling, just any job you're looking for. They send you a check and tell you to deposit the money for some job then you cash it into an account, but the money's not really there, so it can overdraft your bank account. I think they try to prey on people that want a job or modeling gig the most. They think you'll be desperate enough to do it.

Aug 31 14 03:09 pm Link

Photographer

Flex Photography

Posts: 6471

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

samanthablack5422 wrote:
I just got this one too
[email protected]

Hey Samantha,

Yadda, yadda, yadda...

Of course you did!! Once you replied by email to the first one, your email is now out there in "scammerland"!
You will get more!! Don't reply to them!!

Aug 31 14 06:44 pm Link

Photographer

Light and Lens Studio

Posts: 3450

Sisters, Oregon, US

Ahhhhhhhhh   

Don't you just love the smell of fresh scam in the morning.  Better than Napalm, actually.  Alas, my personal preference is for burning gunpowder.  To each his own.

I believe these are variants of the Nigerian Scheme.   Your scam detectors should be buzzing like crazy when you see one of these lush offers that require you to send them money.   

Glad you didn't fall for these to the point of actually sending them $$$. 

Welcome to the Mayhem.  All in all, it's a pretty good place.  Just learn to separate the wheat from the chaff and how to check out photogs that offer you work.  Do your homework and it will be positive experience.

Best.

Aug 31 14 07:02 pm Link