Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > PSD-how to exclude a layer in clipping?

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

This might be simple, but I'm just too stupid to figure it out. I have a bunch of layers for composite work, on the very top are a few adjustment and masking layers and they clip all the composite layers below. Among all those composite layers, right at the middle of the pack, there is this one layer that I don't want it to be clipped by the adjustment/mask layers from the top. How do I exclude that layer from the rest?

Sep 06 14 02:45 pm Link

Retoucher

Ledo retouch

Posts: 1184

Lodi, California, US

move it to the top, then unclip.

Sep 06 14 03:21 pm Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

Ledo retouch wrote:
move it to the top, then unclip.

Nope, it is part of multiple composite layers. Moving it to the top will mess up the image/elemements placement.

Sep 06 14 03:47 pm Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

Actually, I shouldn't have used the word clip. Clip is only for the immediate layer below. What I meant is all the layers below the adjustment/mask layers; and need to make one excluded from the rest of the pack.

Sep 06 14 03:54 pm Link

Retoucher

CLICK retouch

Posts: 235

Denver, Colorado, US

Make a mask that stops those layers affecting the area. Simple.

Sep 06 14 03:55 pm Link

Retoucher

Ledo retouch

Posts: 1184

Lodi, California, US

it has to be unclipped from the adjustment layers

edit, yes use that layer as a selection and fill that part of the
adjustment layer mask

Sep 06 14 03:56 pm Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

CLICK retouch wrote:
Make a mask that stops those layers affecting the area. Simple.

That's true, if the images can be masked. Right now my images/elements cannot be masked. They are soft edges like cloud, water vapor, misty spray, and smoke. There has to be a way to exclude (or unclip) a whole layer.   ???

Sep 06 14 04:00 pm Link

Retoucher

The Invisible Touch

Posts: 862

Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain

could you please upload a screen grab of your layers.. not sure exactly what you mean

Sep 06 14 04:12 pm Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

The Invisible Touch wrote:
could you please upload a screen grab of your layers.. not sure exactly what you mean

https://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i179/Chuckarelei/Screenshot_zpsae820277.jpg

Sep 06 14 06:51 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

Here's a video I made that may help.

Or may not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcSQmd27KP0

Sep 06 14 07:13 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

Maybe put everything from the top adjustment layers to just above the red arrow layer in a folder and set the folder blend mode to NORMAL (not PASS THROUGH)

That will stop the adjustment layers from affecting below the bottom of the folder.

then have the red arrow layer under the folder

Then repeat the adjustment layers again for the rest. (this seems very awkward and error-prone to have two adjustment layers that need to be identical, but it should at least work. I think.)

Sep 06 14 07:17 pm Link

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Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Maybe put everything from the top adjustment layers to just above the red arrow layer in a folder and set the folder blend mode to NORMAL (not PASS THROUGH)

That will stop the adjustment layers from affecting below the bottom of the folder.

then have the red arrow layer under the folder

Then repeat the adjustment layers again for the rest. (this seems very awkward and error-prone to have two adjustment layers that need to be identical, but it should at least work. I think.)

That could be a way to work it with this particular layers arrangement. But I might be adding even more layers and more adjustment. So that could screw things up with more layers to deal and identify with. As you said, it could be error prone down the road.

All i really need to know if there is such way that I can just unclip a layer from the rest.

Sep 06 14 08:26 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

This is why I have always preferred a node-based tree system to Photoshop's.

Sep 07 14 10:35 am Link

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David Julian PhotoARTS

Posts: 1

Seattle, Washington, US

There are a few ways to solve this problem, if I understand it correctly.
Firstly, I need to see the actual art, not just the layer stack. Doesn't have to be finished work.
My experience is that there is ALWAYS a workaround to get the same end result desired.

I teach PS and LR all over the US, so you are welcome to send a 72px PSD to me via "art@(myname).com", or share your DropBox folder with the art in it with me. (turn off sharing later or delete folder.

I build very complex composites, so I can usually make anything work if the author or student allows it.
The PSD can be only 10"@72ppi, just enough to see the work. No Hrez files please.
Attach your phone# and after I see the stack and the art, I can call and walk you through it.

Dave

Sep 09 14 04:44 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

David Julian PhotoARTS wrote:
There are a few ways to solve this problem, if I understand it correctly.
Firstly, I need to see the actual art, not just the layer stack. Doesn't have to be finished work.
My experience is that there is ALWAYS a workaround to get the same end result desired.

I teach PS and LR all over the US, so you are welcome to send a 72px PSD to me via "art@(myname).com", or share your DropBox folder with the art in it with me. (turn off sharing later or delete folder.

I build very complex composites, so I can usually make anything work if the author or student allows it.
The PSD can be only 10"@72ppi, just enough to see the work. No Hrez files please.
Attach your phone# and after I see the stack and the art, I can call and walk you through it.

Dave

I don't think he wants a workaround. I think he wants to know if he can leave everything exactly as is and somehow exempt one of the layers from inheriting the adjustment layers far above.

Sep 09 14 11:00 pm Link

Photographer

ArtistRefuge

Posts: 129

San Francisco, California, US

Off the top of my head this the easiest solution I can think of.

Group all the layers you want to be affected and force the adjustment layer to only affect the group (like you did for "angie's hair"). Anything outside the group will not be affected.

https://www.illusiondigital.com/temp/PS_AdjusmentLayers.PNG

Sep 09 14 11:39 pm Link