Photographer
afplcc
Posts: 6020
Fairfax, Virginia, US
A lot of models (and certainly some photographers) have relied a lot on Facebook for networking, PR, and getting business. FB has thrown a big monkey wrench in to it would seem. Facebook is now demanding that people use their real names on their FB accounts or they're locking them out. It's started with drag queens and gay performers (who are having to "out" themselves in order to keep their account active). Read about it here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ … story.html I know of at least one very well known traveling model who's already been locked out of her account for this very reason. I think this sucks big time--it's just smart for every model (especially those that do nude or erotic work) to use a stage name. I used to use my full name on all of my photographic sites and business until a mom of one of the kids on the youth soccer team that I coached on the side noticed that "coach" was a pervert b/c he shot nekid girlies. Ed
Model
Laura UnBound
Posts: 28745
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Most of the girls who use "real sounding" names as their fake names will be okay unless someone gets a serious hair up their ass about making the models life miserable and reports her. The rest of us are kinda fucked 
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
I have a Fan Page, personal account, and stage name account. My stage name is pretty real (I Google'd my name once and found out it's not as unique as I thought). So I'm pretty sure I'm ok.
If not, I still have my fan page.
Photographer
Herman Surkis
Posts: 10856
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Anybody want to bet that you will be able to buy the ability to use a stage name.
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Just wait until Facebook finds out that escort use their site to gain new clients. I'm sure they're using stage names as well
Photographer
Canvassy
Posts: 209
Saint Paul, Minnesota, US
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Laura UnBound
Posts: 28745
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Canvassy wrote:
just use a fan page. That's what fb is trying to make you do. Except to be able to reach even a fraction of the number of people you're able to reach with a full blown account, you have to pay. You're also limited in the ways you can create posts (ex: I can make a status and tag a person in it, I can't tag a page)
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Laura UnBound wrote:
That's what fb is trying to make you do. Except to be able to reach even a fraction of the number of people you're able to reach with a full blown account, you have to pay. You're also limited in the ways you can create posts (ex: I can make a status and tag a person in it, I can't tag a page) I can tag pages, I do it all the time when I'm posting pictures and crediting the photographer and MUA. I also tag pages in statuses and depending how they have their page set up, it will appear on their Posts to Page section.
Photographer
JQuest
Posts: 2454
Syracuse, New York, US
It would seem to me that if the need for a stage name and a networking site is important to enough people that some entity will step in to fill the void. When people begin killing their accounts to protest the things that Facebook does, if there are enough they'll listen.
Until then, it's their ball and they make the rules, we choose to play by them or not.
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Lallure Photographic
Posts: 2086
Taylors, South Carolina, US
FB is not a very good site to use for much of anything. It is a mess.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Lallure Photographic wrote:
FB is not a very good site to use for much of anything. It is a mess. You probably don't know how to use it!
I am just coming home from a gig, I got via FB, that paid 1/2 my monthly rent... and I am living in an expensive area in New York City (Upper East Side, half a block from Sotheby's)...
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Chuckarelei
Posts: 11271
Seattle, Washington, US
It's time for Google Plus make a run and Myspace make a come back. But the idiots at those two places are just too stupid to figure things out. All they have to do is to copy everything Facebook does minus the craps that people complain about. What so hard about that? Just shows that you could be well off and educated, and still be stupid.
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Brian Diaz
Posts: 65617
Danbury, Connecticut, US
Chuckarelei wrote:
It's time for Google Plus make a run and Myspace make a come back. But the idiots at those two places are just too stupid to figure things out. All they have to do is to copy everything Facebook does minus the craps that people complain about. What so hard about that? Just shows that you could be well off and educated, and still be stupid. What's interesting about this is that Google+ just ended their 3-year ban on pseudonyms this summer. They finally figured out that it was an unreasonable policy, and now Facebook is utterly failing to learn the lessons from Google's mistake.
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 11727
Olney, Maryland, US
Fan pages, business pages, personal pages, timelines, full blown account, tag a person, like a page, tag an image, status, whatever! Facebook is beyond my ability to comprehend. I'm too old to care.
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DOUGLASFOTOS
Posts: 10604
Los Angeles, California, US
Oh No! What will happen to my friends...Agusta Wynd, Anita Dick, Sofonda Cox, Anna Rexxa, Rhea Listic, Charity Case, Major Boner, Ruth Canal, Dee Klein. These poor girls.
Facebook...another cluck move.
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Chicchowmein
Posts: 14585
Palm Beach, Florida, US
DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
Oh No! What will happen to my friends...Agusta Wynd, Anita Dick, Sofonda Cox, Anna Rexxa, Rhea Listic, Charity Case, Major Boner, Ruth Canal, Dee Klein. These poor girls.
Facebook...another cluck move. lol
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Llobet Photography
Posts: 4915
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US
So why do they need real names?
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Anybody knows the deadline?
I don't want to convert if there is a chance the decision will be reversed and pen names being allowed...
Photographer
Jay Leavitt
Posts: 6745
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
afplcc wrote:
Facebook is now demanding that people use their real names on their FB accounts or they're locking them out. How does FB know my real name?
It's not Jay.
Model
D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
What about the famous Ben Dover?
Photographer
afplcc
Posts: 6020
Fairfax, Virginia, US
As for "deadline," they've already started locking some people out.
And here's the irony of it all--the model I know of who was locked out of her account, it was her real name (but she's just got a unique name).
Ed
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BeautybyGod
Posts: 3078
Los Angeles, California, US
i heard on some news report yesterday that they were already unthinking this idea and unlocked some accounts.
Photographer
DarrylPascoePhotography
Posts: 484
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I also read they had unlocked some accounts, but only temporarily giving them a week or two to put their real names on there. Just make the name sound real I guess, but its unfortunate that Facebook are doing that as it will affect many people negatively.
Photographer
NG Photos
Posts: 243
Cleveland, Ohio, US
This has been in their guidelines for a long time actually.
Just use a page and lock down your personal profile.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Nogawd Photography wrote:
This has been in their guidelines for a long time actually.
Just use a page and lock down your personal profile. Have you ever actually "used" a page???
Two months ago... they forced me to convert my profile to a page...
I am a freelancing photographer and painter... you can not separate me, the person, from me, the artist!
After conversion, I have lost every single contact I have carefully developed over the years... I lost over 2,200 business contacts.
I have lost every single post, "like", thread, comment I have ever made in my history with my FB profile (Udor Fotography). I have lost access to every group I have started, including NYC Casting Calls... and in addition... I also have lost every album I had created, many with images from client events or shoots.
As a page, with your artist identity... you can not post or comment... and you don't have a newsfeed... you are extremely limited to what you can do!
In my opinion... a "page" is useless (I have my websites to point people to!)...
A page is nothing more than a passive "tool"...
Photographer
Marco R
Posts: 313
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US
udor wrote:
Have you ever actually "used" a page???
Two months ago... they forced me to convert my profile to a page...
I am a freelancing photographer and painter... you can not separate me, the person, from me, the artist!
After conversion, I have lost every single contact I have carefully developed over the years... I lost over 2,200 business contacts.
I have lost every single post, "like", thread, comment I have ever made in my history with my FB profile (Udor Fotography). I have lost access to every group I have started, including NYC Casting Calls... and in addition... I also have lost every album I had created, many with images from client events or shoots.
As a page, with your artist identity... you can not post or comment... and you don't have a newsfeed... you are extremely limited to what you can do!
In my opinion... a "page" is useless (I have my websites to point people to!)...
A page is nothing more than a passive "tool"... So, your core business was based on a third party entity you did not have control or backup - sad.
Photographer
DollhouseDiamondscom
Posts: 289
Memphis, Tennessee, US
fb pages , g+ brand pages and anything like it are not the real you. neither is a reg account where you can't be yourself. the everyone's on it is why people stick with fb for now. as soon as the users get annoyed and something smoother comes they will run just as they did with myspace. instagram was about to be that place til fb brought them.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Marco R wrote:
So, your core business was based on a third party entity you did not have control or backup - sad. No, my core business is referrals... but... in the industry I am in, namely fashion and runway photography, THIS is were we all network... and I am member of some closed groups with just those individuals, who are members of the international press corps on FB!
I am guessing that YOU, based on your comment have your own platform*, as effective and wide spread via a platform that you have full control over... is there a "Marco R Book" I haven't heard about yet?
If so, please, enlighten me, a man of the unwashed masses what your alternative to FB is!
I am always willing to learn and if there is something that connects me with thousands of my peers and friends that I do not know about and gives me full control... I am more than eager to learn about it!!!
* Edit: Sorry... I checked your profile... and there is no way you can imagine what I am talking about... should have checked before responding! Sorry, dude!
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Herman Surkis
Posts: 10856
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Danielle Reid wrote:
I can tag pages, I do it all the time when I'm posting pictures and crediting the photographer and MUA. I also tag pages in statuses and depending how they have their page set up, it will appear on their Posts to Page section. I can't seem to tag a page either.
And when i try tag someone, FB gives me 4,000,000 possible choices, of which only 6 are visible, since it won't let me scroll down. So half the time it will not let me tag.
Somebody pointed out that putting a @ in front of the name can force things to work. And it works, some times.
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Marco R
Posts: 313
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US
udor wrote:
No, my core business is referrals... but... in the industry I am in, namely fashion and runway photography, THIS is were we all network... and I am member of some closed groups with just those individuals, who are members of the international press corps on FB!
I am guessing that YOU, based on your comment have your own platform*, as effective and wide spread via a platform that you have full control over... is there a "Marco R Book" I haven't heard about yet?
If so, please, enlighten me, a man of the unwashed masses what your alternative to FB is!
I am always willing to learn and if there is something that connects me with thousands of my peers and friends that I do not know about and gives me full control... I am more than eager to learn about it!!!
* Edit: Sorry... I checked your profile... and there is no way you can imagine what I am talking about... should have checked before responding! Sorry, dude! So you lost over 2000 contacts and blamed FB, now you are angry at me. Seriously! You don't get - it is not about getting control over FB dude - it is getting control over you stuff - Get real.
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Herman Surkis
Posts: 10856
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
udor wrote:
You probably don't know how to use it!
I am just coming home from a gig, I got via FB, that paid 1/2 my monthly rent... and I am living in an expensive area in New York City (Upper East Side, half a block from Sotheby's)... Could you educate us.
I for one agree with Lallure.
But better ways are possible.
Photographer
DollhouseDiamondscom
Posts: 289
Memphis, Tennessee, US
there are fb groups that are secret and private that only those who know each other will be invited to. unless you can come back onto fb with a name they know you buy then its hard to get into such groups. In if you only remember a few names you may can get that person to find you again to to add you back. but, your not going to find a lot of reg people setting up a wordpress with a membership pack and try to keep them going there on a daily basis
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Marco R wrote:
So you lost over 2000 contacts and blamed FB, now you are angry at me. Seriously! You don't get - it is not about getting control over FB dude - it is getting control over you stuff - Get real. "Angry" at you???
Why should I get angry?
Sorry, something is getting lost in translation, it's probably me, since I am not a native English speaker!
Do your thing, Marco... you can't know what I am talking about since we are in completely different situations and locations!
Be well!
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Herman Surkis wrote:
Could you educate us.
I for one agree with Lallure.
But better ways are possible. Not sure what there is to educate, Herman...
I use FB to maintain a social media profile as a photographer and artist... I post frequently... I am in contact with members and friends on different groups... and I get approached by people who hire me for gigs, because they either see my profile/comments or being referred to me via my profile, as in the recent client I just spoke about.
It's networking... it works for some... it doesn't for others... in my case... it works.
Not to forget that clients that are being referred to me in real life, connect and communicate via FB with me as well.
One of the first things that happen in person to person meetings is that we connect via FB... if that is not Lallure's experience, that is okay... but my reality is apparently different.
Photographer
Canvassy
Posts: 209
Saint Paul, Minnesota, US
udor wrote:
Have you ever actually "used" a page???
Two months ago... they forced me to convert my profile to a page...
I am a freelancing photographer and painter... you can not separate me, the person, from me, the artist!
After conversion, I have lost every single contact I have carefully developed over the years... I lost over 2,200 business contacts.
I have lost every single post, "like", thread, comment I have ever made in my history with my FB profile (Udor Fotography). I have lost access to every group I have started, including NYC Casting Calls... and in addition... I also have lost every album I had created, many with images from client events or shoots. It's my understanding that they convert everything over? Your friends are converted to fans, and your posts and stuff should have stayed. I started out with a page, so I never went through it personally, but that's how I was told it worked.
As a page, with your artist identity... you can not post or comment... and you don't have a newsfeed... you are extremely limited to what you can do! You CAN post and comment. There's a little triangle menu at the top right, Use Facebook As Udor Photography.
Yo DO have a newsfeed. It's not filled with your friends, it's filled with other pages that you can like or follow. Local models here have pages, and I follow them and comment all the time as my page.
The one thing I think they're missing, is the ability to join a group as a page. It would be much better for me to be able to join a model group or a photography group as my page.
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Blue Cube Imaging
Posts: 11883
Ashland, Oregon, US
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Canvassy wrote:
udor wrote:
Have you ever actually "used" a page???
Two months ago... they forced me to convert my profile to a page...
I am a freelancing photographer and painter... you can not separate me, the person, from me, the artist!
After conversion, I have lost every single contact I have carefully developed over the years... I lost over 2,200 business contacts.
I have lost every single post, "like", thread, comment I have ever made in my history with my FB profile (Udor Fotography). I have lost access to every group I have started, including NYC Casting Calls... and in addition... I also have lost every album I had created, many with images from client events or shoots. It's my understanding that they convert everything over? Your friends are converted to fans, and your posts and stuff should have stayed. I started out with a page, so I never went through it personally, but that's how I was told it worked.
You CAN post and comment. There's a little triangle menu at the top right, Use Facebook As Udor Photography.
Yo DO have a newsfeed. It's not filled with your friends, it's filled with other pages that you can like or follow. Local models here have pages, and I follow them and comment all the time as my page.
The one thing I think they're missing, is the ability to join a group as a page. It would be much better for me to be able to join a model group or a photography group as my page. That might come in future updates seeing as they made it available to post comments as your page on other pages and posts.
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Michael Kerrek
Posts: 1427
Orlando, Florida, US
DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
Sofonda Cox I have never heard of this one before.
You just made my day.
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Abbitt Photography
Posts: 13564
Washington, Utah, US
The white pages doesn't allow me to use a stage name either...
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J Jessica
Posts: 2431
Coconut Creek, Florida, US
I've been using facebook for a while and have a regular account with a pretty obvious "stage name" named after a popular dessert.
I'm well over 200 friends and i'm fine.
o__O
My other account for 'business' is just as unreal sounding.
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