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Mark Reeder

Posts: 627

Huntsville, Ontario, Canada

So I'm considering selling my 85mm 1.8g. I know it's a great lens but being gelded is starting to annoy me.  I would rather have the versatility of using my 85 or any of my lenses on my film cameras as well. Not having the aperture ring, well kind of sucks. Anyone have/use the d version? Any other recommendations for an 85? I have few in mind but thought I would check in here and see what some of you have to say.

Thanks

Oct 24 14 09:50 am Link

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HV images

Posts: 634

Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom

The 85mm f1.4D is s fantastic lens if you want to have the aperture ring.

Oct 24 14 10:35 am Link

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You Can Call Me Pierre

Posts: 800

Loma Linda, California, US

Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZF.2 Planar T* or Otus 1.4

Oct 24 14 11:03 am Link

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Mark Reeder

Posts: 627

Huntsville, Ontario, Canada

ok so, 2 nice lenses, but I've seen/heard quite a bit about color fringing, etc with nikons 1.4d, and lets say I want to spend like half that. I do like the build quality of nikons 1.4d but the glass makes me uneasy. I was actually glad I went with the 1.8g after seeing comparisons.

Oct 24 14 11:29 am Link

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HV images

Posts: 634

Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom

If you don't mind the manual focus you can go for the Rokinon 85mm f1.4.

Oct 24 14 01:22 pm Link

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Thomas Van Dyke

Posts: 3233

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Mark Reeder Photography wrote:
Anyone have/use the d version?

Yep, totally love the 1.4D variant... that said I have both the 1.4D and 1.8G versions, each has there own unique strengths and limitations...  the 1.4D is more than just a lit' heavier... that has to be taken seriously for a 10 hour session... but it locks instantly while the 1.8G sometimes hunts... both are razor sharp, the nod in my humble estimation goes to the newer made in china glass... they really have an incredible tool here especially for such a low the price...

Since I'm so heavily into beauty/fashion I'll be keeping both for a very very long time... only using primes now...

As for film?  seriously happy not be be in the chemical smog of a darkroom...
but whatever works... works...

btw, film cameras don't do video... and the industry is moving to video at an exponential pace... (I'm only the messenger here) not many commercial shooters doing film that I'm aware of... pretty much the domain of hobbyist...

Also for video you'll be controlling exposure with ISO with a Nikon...
Aperture is set and forget for video...
enough said...

Oh, have a feeling the 85mm 1.4D will outlast many camera bodies... it's build quality is really that superb... You'll enjoy it I'm certain... smile

Oct 24 14 01:45 pm Link

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L O C U T U S

Posts: 1746

Bangor, Maine, US

Mark Reeder Photography wrote:
So I'm considering selling my 85mm 1.8g. I know it's a great lens but being gelded is starting to annoy me.  I would rather have the versatility of using my 85 or any of my lenses on my film cameras as well. Not having the aperture ring, well kind of sucks. Anyone have/use the d version? Any other recommendations for an 85? I have few in mind but thought I would check in here and see what some of you have to say.

Thanks

I like it.
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140416/00/534e2f9a1dd47.jpg

Oct 24 14 04:00 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Freaking Rockwell. The Apeture control is still there, it just moved to a wheel on the body. It's not "gelded" at all. Do you also miss having to stick you camera and head into a lightproof bag to change film between shots?

If you want a screaming bargain on an 85 f1.4 with an aperture ring check out the Samyang offering. It's an optical clone of the Nikon 85 f1.4d, but with modern optical coatings. DXO rates it very highly, and it can be had new for around $350. Of course, it's MF, but nikon offers an awesome digital rangefinder on most models that allows for very accurate focusing, even at f1.4.

Oct 25 14 06:39 am Link

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Mark Reeder

Posts: 627

Huntsville, Ontario, Canada

Robb Mann wrote:
Freaking Rockwell. The Apeture control is still there, it just moved to a wheel on the body. It's not "gelded" at all. Do you also miss having to stick you camera and head into a lightproof bag to change film between shots?

If you want a screaming bargain on an 85 f1.4 with an aperture ring check out the Samyang offering. It's an optical clone of the Nikon 85 f1.4d, but with modern optical coatings. DXO rates it very highly, and it can be had new for around $350. Of course, it's MF, but nikon offers an awesome digital rangefinder on most models that allows for very accurate focusing, even at f1.4.

The wheel on the body as in the camera body? That doesn't do any good when you want to use it on a manual film camera.

Oct 25 14 07:12 am Link

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photoimager

Posts: 5164

Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom

I used my 85 1.8D on FM2n, F4 and F100 and was happy. On DX digital it was OK but fringing and lack of sharpness wide open was evident. On FX I quickly stopped using it since the deficiencies were too obvious. Eventually I decided to sell it on and get the 1.8G. No regrets at all and I can still use it on my F100 ( would be F4 as well but I sold that on ).

It depends what film camera you have, G lenses will work with some of them.

Oct 25 14 12:15 pm Link

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Zack Zoll

Posts: 6895

Glens Falls, New York, US

There is a very large quality difference between the 1.8 D and G versions. The D is much smaller(which I love), but has more CA, is slower to focus, and has a much busier bokeh. It may be sharper, but that hardly matters - if you're buying that lens, stopped-down sharpness is not your biggest concern. I've heard this said, but never bothered to test it.

There is less difference between the 1.4 versions. The G has a little less CA, a little more contrast, and is sealed. If not for the sealing, I would prefer the D version. But for some folks, the sealing is a pretty big issue.

The Rokinon is not as good as the Nikon. Others have said it's the same design, and that may be true. But if that made it the same, there would be no difference between a master chef and a guy with some cookbooks.

Oct 26 14 03:58 pm Link