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Ralph Easy
Posts: 6426
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Robb Mann
Posts: 12327
Baltimore, Maryland, US
I notice the 50mp CMOS sensor isn't listed as being 'full frame' like the two CCD options. Same Sony crop sensor everyone else is using in their medium format offerings??
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martin b
Posts: 2770
Manila, National Capital Region, Philippines
tried phase one. not really impressed. 10% better quality for 1000% the price.
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Zack Zoll
Posts: 6895
Glens Falls, New York, US
I must say that I'm confused by this. It appears to be a new lens mount, but it's a 35mm lens? Isn't that equivalent to something like a 24mm on the crop, and an 18mm on the full frame? That seems awful wide for a kit lens, even from these guys.
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TBL Studio
Posts: 26
Coos Bay, Oregon, US
An interesting bit of marketing. Landscape shooters have been using this rig with shift lenses for years now.
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Artful Figures
Posts: 124
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Nothing really new here as far as I can tell. They're just coupling existing gear (Rodenstock lens and Alpa camera body) with Phase One digital backs. The only thing new here is the addition of an iPhone for Live view. I'd love to try one out, though!
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Fred Greissing
Posts: 6427
Los Angeles, California, US
This sort of camera has been around for a long time. Just a flange that connects a MF lens to a Phase One back. In this case it is a CMOS back with OK live view, but a small 44x33 sensor just a few millimeters larger than a FF 35mm dslr. Calling it Medium Format is a bit f an exaggeration...
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alessandro2009
Posts: 8091
Florence, Toscana, Italy
Glenn T Photo wrote: Nothing really new here as far as I can tell. They're just coupling existing gear (Rodenstock lens and Alpa camera body) with Phase One digital backs. +1
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R.EYE.R
Posts: 3436
Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan
Fred Greissing wrote: This sort of camera has been around for a long time. Just a flange that connects a MF lens to a Phase One back. In this case it is a CMOS back with OK live view, but a small 44x33 sensor just a few millimeters larger than a FF 35mm dslr. Calling it Medium Format is a bit f an exaggeration... +1 Alpa is a technical camera, nothing new really. They developed FPS camera before since Copal is driving prices up and likely to stop manufacturing leaf shutters. FPS actually takes Canon, Nikon and Mamiya lenses using adapted plate.
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Zack Zoll
Posts: 6895
Glens Falls, New York, US
Fred Greissing wrote: This sort of camera has been around for a long time. Just a flange that connects a MF lens to a Phase One back. In this case it is a CMOS back with OK live view, but a small 44x33 sensor just a few millimeters larger than a FF 35mm dslr. Calling it Medium Format is a bit f an exaggeration... Nan, they're playing technicalities. It's larger than 24x36mm, and smaller than 4x5. Juuuuust larger enough to market
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moving pictures
Posts: 679
Paris, Île-de-France, France
Fred Greissing wrote: This sort of camera has been around for a long time. Just a flange that connects a MF lens to a Phase One back. In this case it is a CMOS back with OK live view, but a small 44x33 sensor just a few millimeters larger than a FF 35mm dslr. Calling it Medium Format is a bit f an exaggeration... Fred, maybe you have the answer for this. With all these mirrorless cameras, how does one work them with strobes? If the iso,f-stop,and shutter speed is set for the intense light levels of a strobe going off, how does one use live view? And if you can't, what's the point of strobes and mirrorless cameras?
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Zack Zoll
Posts: 6895
Glens Falls, New York, US
moving pictures wrote: Fred, maybe you have the answer for this. With all these mirrorless cameras, how does one work them with strobes? If the iso,f-stop,and shutter speed is set for the intense light levels of a strobe going off, how does one use live view? And if you can't, what's the point of strobes and mirrorless cameras? I can't speak for the Phase One backs, but I can tell you how a DSLR does it. Let's assume your screen updates 30 times a second. It doesn't matter if it does - we just need a number. So we've selected 100 ISO on the camera, and f/11 on the lens. The camera still shoots at 100 ISO, but it boosts the ISO as high as necessary(probably all the way) if order to get a reasonably bright image at 1/30th of a second, and that's the image you see for Live View. When using a DSLR with an electronic lens, the Live View image is made at maximum aperture, so it's not usually too awful. Grainy, but serviceable. When using a lens with a manual aperture dial, this isn't possible. The image is usually too grainy for proper focusing. So, you do the same thing you'd do with a view camera. Put a bright light in the room,open the lens to focus, and stop down to shoot. Even without a leaf shutter, the exposure from the light in the room is neglegable. With a focal plane shutter, it might be just enough to alter your WB from 'true' flash colour. With a leaf shutter, it's extremely unlikely to have any measurable effect on exposure at all, unless it's well over 1000 watts.
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