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Canon 50mm f/1.4 USM: the ideal portrait lens?
Finally got my 50mm f/1.4 USM lens. Man this thing is the most insane lens that's a non-L grade glass. On a digital SLR with the 1.6X crop factor, this lens is quite possibly the ideal portrait lens with such a wide aperture. The bokeh it produces is quite pleasing and the aperture is perfect for keeping only the face in focus! Also with this fast of a lens, lighting (as long as it's white) is a non-issue. Any other photographers here have any opinions? Nov 26 05 02:57 am Link I tend to like my 85 1.2L or TS 90 for headshots. The 135 2.0L is better but a little tight. My 200 1.8L is awesome, but I do not use it that much. Nov 26 05 03:07 am Link It's my absolute favorite lens ever. That I can afford. Once caveat; because it does not have true USM (it uses a slightly smaller, cheaper mechanism) the autofocus is prone to breaking. Mine went through a LOT of HEAVY use over a year and a half or so before it went out, then, after I had it repaired, it lasted another 6 months. At that point, because my budget was very tight, I decided that it would be more cost efficient to go for the 50mm f/1.8 than to get it repaired again. But I still love it. The 1.8 is a fine lens, and it's the best value in photography (well, it's neck and neck with the $1.48 Kodak's Most Basic Book of 35mm Photography, although that's most valuable in the beginning stages of learning photography) but I still love and miss my 1.4. Nov 26 05 03:10 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: Thanks... FYI, tip if you're going for the f/1.8. Dig around for the 50mm f/1.8 MK I (mark 1). They have metal mounts unlike the current mark II. They sell roughly $150 used (since they're discontinued and very hard to get). These rarely ever break. I had one until I upgraded to this one as the bokeh is soooo much sweeter. Nov 26 05 03:25 am Link John Pringle wrote: Yeah, I love those L's but with my budget I can only afford to RENT those multiples of $1,000 dollar lenses. Nov 26 05 03:26 am Link lol why are both of you NY'ers up so late anyways. I thought I was the only insomniac. Nov 26 05 03:29 am Link Bokeh is not one of those words I'm comfortable saying out loud in mixed company - but just between you, you, you and me, it really is punk on the 1.8. That's the only thing that keeps me wanting to borrow or buy the 1.4, but I can't talk myself into dropping the dough on another 50mm. Especially since the bokeh (and cereal box prize construction) is the only issue for me. If I avoid creating specular highlights, I'm perfectly content*. *that's patently false. I am not now, nor have I ever been, perfectly content with any piece of equipment I've been able to afford. Nov 26 05 03:33 am Link Still prefer the a longer focal length, around 100mm or so. The cropping factor doesn't change the perspective, and I like the prespective better on the 100 mm (or so). Just hate being backed up against a wall when in a tight space! I have the 50 1.8 and do use it when working with existing light or doing portraits in the old Hollywood style and want some narrow DoF. Agree though, 50 1.4 is a fantastic lens! Nov 26 05 03:40 am Link This thread is so awesome! I'm a Leica, Nikon, Minolta user yet I love and understand the interaction between you as you discuss lenses and bokeh. I am so glad you have done so. Thank you! We need more threads like this! NY'ers are always up- I write this at 445 Am ;-) Cheers! David Nov 26 05 03:44 am Link I dont have the 1.4 version. How sharp is your copy wide open? Nov 26 05 03:56 am Link FYI, here's an in-depth comparison of the EF 50mm f/1.4 and the f/1.8: http://photo.net/equipment/canon/ef50/ Nov 26 05 04:48 am Link Muevelo NYC Productions wrote: still too short of a focal length for my taste. I still use my 70-200 f2.8 on a monopod, or my 28-75 f2.8 (@75mm) for most of my portrait work. i have the 50 1.8, and barely used it. Nov 26 05 09:14 am Link Muevelo NYC Productions wrote: Its ok for full lenght shots but for headshots I use the 70-200 2.8 L Nov 26 05 09:19 am Link Gary L. wrote: If you're looking to get rid of it I'm in the market! I've been looking to get some good primes. Nov 26 05 09:33 am Link Gary L. wrote: Gary, is your 28-75 2.8 the Tamron XR DI? (I have one and like it a lot). Nov 26 05 09:43 am Link raveneyes wrote: At $75, there's no reason not to get it. Nov 26 05 10:23 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: Thanks for the link Brian, but do you know the difference between the US version and the Gray market lens? Nov 26 05 10:26 am Link Craig Thomson wrote: The grey market version was made for sale outside of the US, so it's cheaper, but it doesn't come with a manufacturer's warranty. But that's okay because Adorama (and other reputable sellers like B&H) cover it for you. Here's what they have to say about it: Nov 26 05 11:00 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: Thanks, I guess I'll get one in a few mins (eBay actions ending soon) Nov 26 05 11:02 am Link It's a great lens, good for body shots especially but it's really pretty versatile...very crisp and very fast focus, it's something I think most photographers need in their bag. Nov 26 05 11:11 am Link Personally in 35mm format I prefer my 50 and 85mm f/1.4 Zeiss Planars, for Hasselblad the 120mm f/4 Makro-Planar, the 140 f/2.8 Planar on Contax and the 165mm f/2.8 on the Pentax 6x7 (this one doesn't get enough press). Yeah, I use a Canon 50mm f/1.4 on my EOS 3 and 10D as well. It's a pretty good lens. Nov 26 05 12:25 pm Link Muevelo NYC Productions wrote: Almost 100% of what I posted on Model Mayhem is shot with that same lens. Even when I try not to use it, it still ends up the star of the shoot. Nov 26 05 12:33 pm Link Perspective is a bit wide for portraits, least for my tastes. Try the 85 1.8. The USM version. For the price it is a great lens. Since shooting full frame again, I am preferring the 135 f2. I got one used for a good price and it is awesome. Sharp as hell wide open. The 50 1.4 is nice too. I need to get one ( I used the 1.8 ). The last 1.4 I had wasnt sharp enough until f2, but for night work and low light work, and things where sharpness isnt a factor, its a great lens. Chip Nov 26 05 12:34 pm Link Notce that not ONE model has responded to this thread? "I love images of me that were shot with the 50mm f/1.4 lens!" Nope. You never hear that, do you? P.S. I have the 50mm f/1.8 and love it. I'm sure the f/1.4 is the shit AND the bees knees. Nov 26 05 12:36 pm Link I'm usually pretty quiet on the makeup and pilates threads... Nov 26 05 01:02 pm Link I thought I was sort of an oddball in this arena but I guess I'm not. For testing and just about anything I do where someone is getting charged I use almost exclusively my 85mm 1.2/L or my 50mm 1.8. $1700 lens and a $75 lens, it's wierd when you think about it. Granted, I can tell the difference, and I don't dare open the 50mm up all the way (does great at 2.2 though), but the client generally can't. Seems kinda wierd when you think about it, it's interesting to see there are a fair number of other shooters doing the same or similar thing though. Andy Nov 26 05 01:08 pm Link RobHowardStudios wrote: Mine is split Nov 26 05 01:13 pm Link A. H A M I L T O N wrote: Single sharpest lens I own is the 45mm f/2 Planar for Contax G series. It's less than about $400 new and I got used mine with a body and a flash for $400 total, and it weighs a few ounces. Sharper than any of the $1000 to $2000 and up (and much larger) lenses I've got. Nov 26 05 01:52 pm Link Marko, Dont make me have Contax G withdrawls. Those lenses are phemomenal. But, Canon Glass is near as good, and most people cant tell the differene anyhow. I have had some stuff published using a cheap Canon 50 1.8. Some with the Expensive 85 1.2L. Gotta keep in perpective, you can shoot pure junk with expensive glass easy. You can shoot pure beauty with a holga too, if you do it right. Tools they all are. Nov 26 05 02:25 pm Link Craig Thomson wrote: yes, i have the Tamron lens, and it's bloody sharp and I love it to death. I use my 70-200 f2.8 outside, where i have the space. The Tamron is used for inside work. Nov 26 05 06:59 pm Link Chip Willis wrote: So true. Nov 26 05 07:02 pm Link I shoot most of my stuff with my 85 f/1.2L and I love it. I shoot a lot at 1.2, I love the tight focus and sharpness. I wouldn't say all, but most of my photos here on MM are shot with that 85 1.2L. I would also add that the 50 1.4 does suffer a little bit from barrell distortion, especially when used on a full frame body. I didn't noticed this problem on the 20D but did on my 1DsMarkII I used to love that 50mm 1.4 when I was shooting with my 20D, but when I upgraded to full frame and 1DsMarkII, I don't find them a good match and the 85 1.2L is really the best one for it for portraits and a lot of fashion. Exceptionnally I do some portraits with the 70-200 f/2.8L, it is a pretty good lense as well, but I would admit that since having the 85, I don't use that 70-200 much anymore. Nov 26 05 07:15 pm Link Craig Thomson wrote: Gary L. wrote: Thank you for clearing that up. Nov 26 05 08:43 pm Link It's ok for a 1.6 format camera.. My favorite for portrait / head shots is my 135mm f2.0 L The "working distance" is perfect for me.. not too far away, not too short.. ' Right now, I am shooting mainly full frame for that kind of work... so when I was shooting the 1.6 format, the 85mm f1.8 was the more "ideal" for that shooting situation, but when compared to a full frame and the 135mm lens,...even though the area of coverage is darn near the same, the 85mm doesn't come close.. The 50mm on it's own, on a FF body, is one of my favorite lenses for full length & 3/4 in my studio.. however, when I am on location, I go as long as I have room and "communication" between me & the model.. those long lenses can set you back a ways from them, but the results are stunning! 50mm f1.4 on FF body https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=436d721d01545 135mm f2.0 L on 1.6 format body https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=42ffb9e8b9722 135mm f2.0 L on FF body https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=4365396e3b639 300mm f2.8 L on 1.6 format body https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=42f6a8522ed99 Regardless,...the 50 f1.4 is a darn good lens to have in your bag! JP Nov 26 05 10:11 pm Link I got my 50mm f1.4 a couple of days ago, I'm taking it for a test drive on a beach shoot tomorrow morning. If I get a chance I'll try to shoot the same pose with the 50mm f1.8 for comparison. P.S I'll be selling my f1.8 which is about 2 months old. Nov 26 05 11:42 pm Link Charcoal Artist wrote: keep it as a backup. Are you in desperate need for $50? That's how much a 50 1.8 like new lens is worth. Nov 27 05 09:02 am Link easyonthe eyes wrote: I know what you mean man... This review made me a believer: Nov 27 05 01:09 pm Link Bruce Muir wrote: Extremely. I comared it to my friend's zoom L lens at 50mm and it's nearly impossible to compare as they look identical, except that the 1.4 will give you much better bokeh! Nov 27 05 01:10 pm Link Gary L. wrote: Muevelo NYC Productions wrote: still too short of a focal length for my taste. I still use my 70-200 f2.8 on a monopod, or my 28-75 f2.8 (@75mm) for most of my portrait work. i have the 50 1.8, and barely used it. Yeah, if I need to get longer focal length, I can revert back to my Sigma 70-300 APO DG which is what I used for the B&W headshots in my portfolio. But I wanted something where I didn't have to be 15 feet away to take a nice headshot. LOL Shooting in NYC is annoying because people are jerks and will literally walk in front of you even if they can clearly see that you're shooting photos. Craig Thomson wrote: 28-75 2.8 the Tamron XR DI is next on my to buy list... Nov 27 05 01:22 pm Link Muevelo NYC Productions wrote: It's the only lens I shoot with and everything in my portfolio is taken with that lens. It worked fantastic on my 20D. I have a FF now and would LOVE an 85mm f/1.2L but I'm not likely going to drop 1.5 grand on that anytime soon. Nor am I willing to sacrifice a full stop by purchasing an 85mm f/1.8, (stopped down that lens would do great though). Nov 27 05 03:50 pm Link |