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ResoL101 wrote:
But do you understand what seemingly MADE a Tutsi different from a Hutu?... Yes, and it wasnt lightskinned versus darkskinned. 
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UnoMundo wrote:
You dahling ,
The Hutu and the Tutsi, many of them shared the same language, religion, intermarriage,etc, etc,etc. It is not like one was Christian and the other Muslim or the other green and the other blue.
It was now neighbor against neighbor depending on tribal origin. I was based on something smaller than that...the width of the nose.
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Like an open Rose wrote:
Yes, and it wasnt lightskinned versus darkskinned. You're obviously missing the point AND the connection.
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ResoL101 wrote:
I was based on something smaller than that...the width of the nose. Yep, them small nose mofos got wiped out the first day.
People make all fucking kind of distinctions.
I had one pompous ass photographer tell me I photograph "the not so beautiful"
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ResoL101 wrote:
You're obviously missing the point AND the connection. Ok. If you say so.
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UnoMundo
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ResoL101 wrote:
But do you understand what seemingly MADE a Tutsi different from a Hutu?... I posted a short sweet history earlier......See it came to power
"Rwanda was a tribal system
One group had 85% of the population.
The other (15%) was in charge (colonial history), they refused to give up power.
Elections were held, the group with 85% population won.
The new Prime Minister(mr 85%) was killed.
The 85% group got pissed and commenced a killing spree. "
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UnoMundo wrote:
Yep, them small nose mofos got wiped out the first day.
People make all fucking kind of distinctions.
I had one pompous ass photographer tell me I photograph "the not so beautiful" My point was that the "inner-racism" is almost identical to what happened in Rwanda.
Your origin or "tribe" was decided by the width of your nose in Rwanda...and so was the racism BORNE from that inner-race distinction.
Am I losing any of you?
Like the girl who was called "pass for white" in another thread...
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ResoL101 wrote:
My point was that the "inner-racism" is almost identical to what happened in Rwanda.
Your origin or "tribe" was decided by the width of your nose in Rwanda...and so was the racism BORNE from that inner-race distinction.
Am I losing any of you?
Like the girl who was called "pass for white" in another thread... No its totally different. Sorry. Its not hatred like that. You are completely lost. But if it makes you feel good I will leave
And btw check the thread and all the literature on the subject, I concur that reading is important
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UnoMundo wrote:
I posted a short sweet history earlier......See it came to power
"Rwanda was a tribal system
One group had 85% of the population.
The other (15%) was in charge (colonial history), they refused to give up power.
Elections were held, the group with 85% population won.
The new Prime Minister(mr 85%) was killed.
The 85% group got pissed and commenced a killing spree. " I get that...but my point was what made a "Tutsi different from a Hutu"...and the ridiculousness of that distinction...which alludes to some of the banter and the ridiculous comments of this topic post.
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Tommy-Gun
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priscilla18 wrote:
what is all this light skin is better than dark skin rubbish it's JUST a preference thing
it's not that big of a deal
it's not like it's an actual problem here in America
this is like a brunette complaining that blondes have all the fun!!!
it all depends on where you go in America too
it's a big country with alot of different views
"Some say the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice
I say the darker the flesh then the deeper the roots"
-Tupac
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Like an open Rose wrote:
Oh Honey, You have no idea.
You can have your victory. Enjoy it. More than you know...I've BEEN to places like this.
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ResoL101 wrote:
More than you know...I've BEEN to places like this. Well, then I guess that means you know, I have no problem with you knowing about a subject.
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Like an open Rose wrote:
No its totally different. Sorry. Its not hatred like that. You are completely lost. But if it makes you feel good I will leave
And btw check the thread and all the literature on the subject, I concur that reading is important "Not hatred like that"...Are you fucking kidding?...its still HATRED on ANY level...and the fact you "lighten it up" as not being that serious is an indication YOU need to read more.
You're part of the problem...not part of the solution...can't you see that?
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ResoL101 wrote:
"Not hatred like that"...Are you fucking kidding?...its still HATRED on ANY level...and the fact you "lighten it up" as not being that serious is an indication YOU need to read more.
You're part of the problem...not part of the solution...can't you see that? Ok. I don't agree with you in this area. Its not the same type of hatred that was blown out of proportion by outsiders. So lets just agree to disagree.
I read a lot, quite frankly its one of my special gifts.
Anyway my mans on his way home from work I got to clean this house up for he gets here !
bye
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CEEKuno
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This is like the 10th pointless thread I've seen from you...is this just to get veiws or something?? You did this same kinda thing last week...
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SimoneDanielle
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hmmm...that sucks
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Like an open Rose wrote:
Ok. I don't agree with you in this area. Its not the same type of hatred that was blown out of proportion by outsiders. So lets just agree to disagree.
I read a lot, quite frankly its one of my special gifts.
Anyway my mans on his way home from work I got to clean this house up for he gets here !
bye later
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priscilla18 wrote:
lol why though black is black Well this question can be answered in many different ways. It depends on who you ask. If your asking me I would tell you that mainstream America has projected an image using all media aspects to project and determine what "Beauty" is when it comes to women of color. In music videos, magazines and just simple pop culture and professional entertainment we have been lead to believe that any woman of color must compete and looks as close to a European standarized as possible. This will never change. Its always assume through media perceptions that "more fair skin and straigher hair texture women are more beautiful than the darker, more tightly curled hair tressed beauty." There's always one or two cliche darker beauty women. This has always been from my great grandmother to now.
Here's a book that I read
Willie Lynch Letters
It was a book I read about slavemasters using mental slavery vs physical slavery. Just to give you synopsis it basically states that if you but Blackman against Blackwomen,Young vs Old, Lightskin vs Darkskin etc that all slaves and their decendants will be enslaved to this thought process for the next 300 years. This was in the 1800s. Its not right and its true that not everyone thinks this way but its been so driven into the masses for so long that some of the youth are brainwashed. I've been a witness to hearing young men say how they want a "redbone" or "Brownin" and I've heard some say the wouldn't date a dark women because they don't want their babies to be to "dark" or they want their babies to have "nice" hair. Self hatered is a deadly disease that can be eventually reverse through self love and proper education. There are women of color across the world that's bleaching there skin to be lighter, using chemicals to straighten their natural hair or having nose surgeries to emulate their white counterparts. Even Cleopatra was altered to look like something she really wasn't. Its hard sometimes for a culture to understand what they are without knowledging and understanding WHO they are. If you need futher reading materail you can pm me
Peace and Love
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Aswad Issa - 35mm Film
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priscilla18 wrote:
i know there's not pretty is pretty but i heard its really bad in america though The lightskin vs. darkskin thing in America is worse than the Bloods vs. Crips...
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Aswad Issa - 35mm Film wrote:
The lightskin vs. darkskin thing in America is worse than the Bloods vs. Crips... and that's what my point was...
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Fifi
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It's just as bad in the Hispanic/Latin community....
My Grandmother is Brazilian. She's barely tan... but she still wasn't light enough in the eyes of my Grandfather and his family.
It's disgusting that it happens within my own family...
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Miss Fifi-Alexis wrote:
It's just as bad in the Hispanic/Latin community....
My Grandmother is Brazilian. She's barely tan... but she still wasn't light enough in the eyes of my Grandfather and his family.
It's disgusting that it happens within my own family... you're still hot as hell though....
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Like an open Rose wrote:
Ok. I don't agree with you in this area. Its not the same type of hatred that was blown out of proportion by outsiders. So lets just agree to disagree.
I read a lot, quite frankly its one of my special gifts.
Anyway my mans on his way home from work I got to clean this house up for he gets here !
bye Actually, it is... It's even worst because it comes from your family. My Mother is the darkest one in her family..... All her life, she was told that if she were to cut her hair, she wouldn't have any beauty left because she is too dark to be considered pretty. Her own mother told her this.... on the daily.... how is that not just as bad.
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ResoL101 wrote:
you're still hot as hell though.... According to my Grandfather's (may he rest in peace) family, I am too dark to matter.
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Miss Fifi-Alexis wrote:
According to my Grandfather's (may he rest in peace) family, I am too dark to matter. Honestly...how in the hell do you FIGHT that kind of racism?
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ResoL101 wrote:
Honestly...how in the hell do you FIGHT that kind of racism? I know a few friends who have the most "bitter" resentment towards their own race...floored me one day when I heard him going OFF on this teenager who was all gangstered out.
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CEEKuno wrote:
This is like the 10th pointless thread I've seen from you...is this just to get veiws or something?? You did this same kinda thing last week... YUP!!!
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priscilla18 wrote:
i know there's not pretty is pretty but i heard its really bad in america though At my school, there is tension between lighter blacks and darker blacks...actual Africans and 'African Americans'.
God I hate that term...
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*shrugs* I personally think dark skin is beautiful.
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My sister-in-law grew up with this prejudice in Indonesia. Over there, there is light skinned Indonesians and dark skinned. Her family was a mixture of the two. Her father was light and would say, to the light skinned children, "My beautiful children, sit on this side." It deeply affected her.
Though my brother is caucasian, when she came to the states she felt she fit in ore with the black community on a much deeper level.
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priscilla18 wrote:
what is all this light skin is better than dark skin rubbish As long as its skin. Ever been with a skinless person? people stare and its weird. So light, dark, as long as its soft and smells good and...brb
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ResoL101 wrote:
Honestly...how in the hell do you FIGHT that kind of racism? Well, I for one never knew my Grandfather.... My Dad and Grandma shielded me from him. They didn't even tell me when he passed away. They said if I had showed up to the funeral it wouldn't have been good.
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CagedGypsy wrote:
My sister-in-law grew up with this prejudice in Indonesia. Over there, there is light skinned Indonesians and dark skinned. Her family was a mixture of the two. Her father was light and would say, to the light skinned children, "My beautiful children, sit on this side." It deeply affected her.
Though my brother is caucasian, when she came to the states she felt she fit in ore with the black community on a much deeper level. That is very very interesting.
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Spike Lee's "School Daze" touches on this issue with the rivalry between the Wannabes and the Jigaboos (he got a lot of grief in some circles for airing dirty laundry). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlxI3-8BVKQ A more serious look can be found in Lawrence Otis Graham's book, "Our Kind of People: Inside America's Black Upper Class"
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Shon D Photography wrote:
Sigh. Double sigh.
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Miss Fifi-Alexis wrote:
Actually, it is... It's even worst because it comes from your family. My Mother is the darkest one in her family..... All her life, she was told that if she were to cut her hair, she wouldn't have any beauty left because she is too dark to be considered pretty. Her own mother told her this.... on the daily.... how is that not just as bad. You arent being killed or having your hand chopped off because you are dark, so I really dont think so.
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