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qphotonyc

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excerpt from an article by conservative columnist pat buchanan:

"The new Iraqi government, army and security forces are too weak and divided to prevent civil war without the U.S. presence, the indispensable pillar of the state.

"Our fate, it seems, is to be that of Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. As punishment, he was chained to a rock, as vultures ate at his liver. And so, too, are we chained – by our own responsibility for what is about to happen – to the rock of Iraq.

"If Bush should reduce our forces to 100,000 by year's end as planned, he risks the civil war that will destroy all we have accomplished and wash down a sewer everything for which 2,300 Americans died and 16,000 have been wounded. That sectarian war could spread across the Islamic world.

"It is impossible to see how Bush, who must know a pullout could bring chaos and civil war and convert into a historic defeat and debacle a war he launched, is going to do this. A stubborn man who yet believes in the cause, Bush seems certain to soldier on in the hope it will all turn out well, as it did for Lincoln.

"But while we retain the forces in Iraq to prevent a collapse, we do not have the forces to defeat the enemy. And as our allies depart, it is unlikely Americans will support more U.S. troops or many more billions to rebuild the country.

"Were this a financial investment, Iraq would have been written off and our losses cut a long time ago. But for Bush to write it off is to write himself off as a failed president who committed the greatest strategic blunder in U.S. history."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49095

Mar 05 06 11:27 pm Link

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BodyPainter Rich

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Sacramento, California, US

qphotonyc wrote:
"It is impossible to see how Bush, who must know a pullout could bring chaos and civil war and convert into a historic defeat and debacle a war he launched, is going to do this. A stubborn man who yet believes in the cause, Bush seems certain to soldier on in the hope it will all turn out well, as it did for Lincoln.

Note hear how Buchannan tries to make a favorable comparison here of Pres. Bush to Pres. Lincoln. The thing is, Lincoln sort of had a war forced on him on his home turf and the war was fought to preserve the very nature and composition of the United States as it was then known...it was a fight for survival.

In a fight for survival you should NEVER cut your losses!

That of course, is the problem...in IRaq many groups feel they are fighting for their survival and they will not give up fighting whether we are there or not...but we sort of have to stay since we broke it on our own terms and against the judgment of the majority of the world.

The war in Iraq is NOT a fight for our survival and Gearge Bush is no Abraham Lincoln.

Mar 06 06 12:43 am Link

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Lens N Light

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Bradford, Vermont, US

God, I get tired of you!

Mar 06 06 11:25 am Link

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BodyPainter Rich

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Sacramento, California, US

Lens N Light wrote:
God, I get tired of you!

1- Tired of who?
2- So what?

Mar 06 06 03:03 pm Link