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Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

mmmmm

Good morning...

*yawn*

Sep 12 08 01:40 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

The Bald Photographer wrote:
Too late now, but GWC does to my mind have an association with 'beginner', sadly, even a legitimate one.

Would have been better as a CWC - Creep With Camera. Then it's just a definition of what makes someone a creep...

John
http://TheBaldPhotographer.com

That would have made it easier for everyone here

to determine the difference and meaning of GWC..

Goodness!

lol

Sep 12 08 01:51 pm Link

Photographer

ChrisCrimsonPhotography

Posts: 510

Chicago, Illinois, US

is there something wrong with a nude woman?

Sep 12 08 01:58 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

christopher mangulabnan wrote:
is there something wrong with a nude woman?

Isn't that either glam, artistic nudes, etc...

I guess so far a GWC, is a man using a camera to put the moves on his model...

So just hope that's not th case while shooting nude models..

eeek!

yikes

Sep 12 08 02:01 pm Link

Photographer

ChrisCrimsonPhotography

Posts: 510

Chicago, Illinois, US

i got dance moves for that.  my camera would get in the way.  plus way too expensive to accidentally drop.

is there something wrong with a guy having a camera?

Sep 12 08 02:04 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

christopher mangulabnan wrote:
i got dance moves for that.  my camera would get in the way.  plus way too expensive to accidentally drop.

is there something wrong with a guy having a camera?

lol

You tell me...

Dance moves eh???

Oh my!!

lol

Sep 12 08 02:05 pm Link

Photographer

ChrisCrimsonPhotography

Posts: 510

Chicago, Illinois, US

yes, i'd twirl you and show you my disco boogie.

can't they just make cameras that see thru clothes that way it's not a big deal for photographers to see girls naked and girls can keep their clothes on.

Sep 12 08 02:09 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

christopher mangulabnan wrote:
yes, i'd twirl you and show you my disco boogie.

can't they just make cameras that see thru clothes that way it's not a big deal for photographers to see girls naked and girls can keep their clothes on.

lol

Don't men already imagine women naked.

Isn't that apart of your genetics.

No seriously.

It said that in my biology book.

lol

Sep 12 08 02:11 pm Link

Model

Flip Ashley

Posts: 437

Dallas, Texas, US

Lots of GWCs out there,learn to identify and move on.

Sep 12 08 02:14 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Flip Ashley wrote:
Lots of GWCs out there,learn to identify and move on.

Everyone clearly has a different version of what they believe a GWC is.

Wow.

smile

Sep 12 08 02:16 pm Link

Photographer

ChrisCrimsonPhotography

Posts: 510

Chicago, Illinois, US

maybe they can just make see thru clothes more fashionable since women love wearing the latest fashions.  or they can fix my eyes so I can see thru clothes.

i think if men weren't frustrated losers we could see more naked women like those guys at topless beaches in europe.

Sep 12 08 02:18 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

christopher mangulabnan wrote:
maybe they can just make see thru clothes more fashionable since women love wearing the latest fashions.  or they can fix my eyes so I can see thru clothes.

i think if men weren't frustrated losers we could see more naked women like those guys at topless beaches in europe.

lol

Now I know where you're going next summer.

lol

What are you, a comedian?

lol

Sep 12 08 02:19 pm Link

Photographer

ChrisCrimsonPhotography

Posts: 510

Chicago, Illinois, US

mexico is closer, especially isla mujeres.

wanna come?

Sep 12 08 02:27 pm Link

Photographer

semyon

Posts: 273

PISCATAWAY, New Jersey, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
GWC = inappropriate sexual advances

I'm *dying* to hear about appropriate sexual advances. Please do tell!

BTW, I'd consider myself GWC, because I'm a guy and, well, I do indeed have a camera. Big one. With long lens. I also have a tripod, if it makes any difference, though I rarely use it.

Sep 12 08 02:30 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
GWC = inappropriate sexual advances

semyon wrote:
I'm *dying* to hear about appropriate sexual advances. Please do tell!

BTW, I'd consider myself GWC, because I'm a guy and, well, I do indeed have a camera. Big one. With long lens. I also have a tripod, if it makes any difference, though I rarely use it.

Based on some of the responses in this thread, that's a GWC.

::shrugs::

Is that definition of a GWC, wrong??

Seems to be common here.

I'm still learning.

smile

Sep 12 08 02:32 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

My favorite shot from your port!!

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080417/01/4806e584871fa_m.jpg

yikes

Love it!!

Sep 12 08 02:35 pm Link

Photographer

dantuyhoa

Posts: 874

Santa Rosa, California, US

Don't forget :

Guys  With Car !


I'm a no win case : Guy With Cookies ! big_smile

Sep 12 08 02:37 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

dantuyhoa wrote:
Don't forget :

Guys  With Car !


I'm a no win case : Guy With Cookies! big_smile

Cookies??

I want some!!!

Chocolate chip?????????????

yikes

Gimme!

::snatches the cookies and jets::

Sep 12 08 02:39 pm Link

Artist/Painter

bruce macevoy

Posts: 145

Sebastopol, California, US

there's a confusion here.

as a behavioral category a gwc is anybody using a camera whose net investment in the activity is pretty much ... pointing the camera. no business scramble for clients, no tormented hours trying to get the white balance just right, no interest in learning about lighting, no hunger for better equipment, no concern for reputation.

as an epithet of contempt, anybody who does anything that anybody else thinks isn't something that anybody should do, especially if they do it wielding a camera.

Sep 12 08 02:49 pm Link

Photographer

Chad Ruin

Posts: 330

Tacoma, Washington, US

Just out of curiosity, is there a title for the model version of a GWC? In my experiance so far with MM, that's all I have been met with. Fakes and flakes who want me to churn out crap they can put on their myspace page. It is starting to get frustrating. If there is no name for them yet, I want to throw TWT in the hat... Tards With Tits:)

Sep 12 08 02:52 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

This thread reminds me... is GWC, the actual MM member still here? I tried the Browse feature and did not find his port. wink

Sep 12 08 02:57 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

bruce macevoy wrote:
there's a confusion here.

as a behavioral category a gwc is anybody using a camera whose net investment in the activity is pretty much ... pointing the camera. no business scramble for clients, no tormented hours trying to get the white balance just right, no interest in learning about lighting, no hunger for better equipment, no concern for reputation.

as an epithet of contempt, anybody who does anything that anybody else thinks isn't something that anybody should do, especially if they do it wielding a camera.

Now this is what I initially thought a GWC was...

It can be so confusing...

Goodness!

Sep 12 08 02:59 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Chad Ruin wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is there a title for the model version of a GWC? In my experiance so far with MM, that's all I have been met with. Fakes and flakes who want me to churn out crap they can put on their myspace page. It is starting to get frustrating. If there is no name for them yet, I want to throw TWT in the hat... Tards With Tits:)

yikes

Oh my....

Maybe a GWP = Girl With Profile.

lol

Sep 12 08 03:01 pm Link

Photographer

AUTONOMY

Posts: 3674

Hollywood Starlet wrote:

lol

Don't men already imagine women naked.

Isn't that apart of your genetics.

No seriously.

It said that in my biology book.

lol

Don't believe everything you read, be it in a text, blog or the Onion.

Sep 12 08 03:02 pm Link

Photographer

Chad Ruin

Posts: 330

Tacoma, Washington, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:

yikes

Oh my....

Maybe a GWP = Girl With Profile.

lol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nice!

Sep 12 08 03:02 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
lol

Don't men already imagine women naked.

Isn't that apart of your genetics.

No seriously.

It said that in my biology book.

lol

AUTONOMY wrote:
Don't believe everything you read, be it in a text, blog or the Onion.

lol

I was joking...wait no, I read it in Cosmo..

hahahaha

lol

Sep 12 08 03:04 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
yikes

Oh my....

Maybe a GWP = Girl With Profile.

lol

Chad Ruin wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nice!

Right right!!

lol lol

Sep 12 08 03:05 pm Link

Photographer

AcmeStudios

Posts: 4528

GWC's are working into the commerical arena as well.

Sep 12 08 03:07 pm Link

Photographer

afterdarc studios

Posts: 1196

San Diego, California, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
"What's with all the GWC's on OneModelPlace.com, lately?"

there are alot more on modelmayhem.  at least on onemodelplace you know they are serious because they have to pay for membership.

Sep 12 08 03:09 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
"What's with all the GWC's on OneModelPlace.com, lately?"

afterdarc studios wrote:
there are alot more on modelmayhem.  at least on onemodelplace you know they are serious because they have to pay for membership.

That was quoted from www.urbandictionary.com.

But there are more here?

Thanks for the insight.

Wow!!!

yikes

Sep 12 08 03:10 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Btw

This is hot!!

https://img4.modelmayhem.com/061025/20/4540155833380_m.jpg

Sep 12 08 03:11 pm Link

Photographer

Imagebuffet

Posts: 15842

Richardson, Texas, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
All photographers were once a GWC or FWC - Female.. minus perversion...

You gotta start somewhere, right?

smile

I don't agree with this usage of the term. If that were the correct usage of the term, I would disagree with the condemnation heaped on GWCs. I don't believe that a novice is exactly that same as a GWC. I don't believe that being a novice makes someone a creep.

I consider a GWC to be someone who has little interest in photography; he is a photographer only to gain access to attractive models. He is a self-centered, undisciplined jerk.

Sep 12 08 03:18 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Imagebuffet wrote:
I consider a GWC to be someone who has little interest in photography; he is a photographer only to gain access to attractive models. He is a self-centered, undisciplined jerk.

You quoted me from a comment I made early in the thread.

There are several definitions provided.

I'm learning.

Quote another definition lol

lol

But the second part of your definition is common in this thread.

Sep 12 08 03:21 pm Link

Model

Janice Marie Foote

Posts: 11483

I thought GWC meant "Guy With Cock"...

Sep 12 08 03:21 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Pg 1 Response

www.ehow.com

"HOW TO HANDLE A GUY WITH CAMERA"

"A GWC is just a guy with a camera. He is not a professional business person and he probably is not looking for business but looking for a more personal relationship with someone. He has found out that his expensive cameras seem to attract young men and women and he uses that equipment to reel them into his web. Be careful. Read the tips and warnings section and finish reading this article after this email and comment box. I welcome any comments, questions and criticisms of this or any articles that I write."

Click Here

I don't know, this was all I could find.

Maybe you'll find a better link.

::shrugs::

Sep 12 08 03:22 pm Link

Photographer

Imagebuffet

Posts: 15842

Richardson, Texas, US

Hollywood Starlet wrote:

lol

Don't men already imagine women naked.

Isn't that apart of your genetics.

No seriously.

It said that in my biology book.

lol

I have never looked at a woman and imagined her naked. That might be because I lack imagination (though, my Mom always complained that I have too much imagination). As it happens, even when I see a woman naked, there is some sort of shield in my mind that keeps me from really appreciating that fact. I don't really understand that. On the one hand, a beautiful, sexy nude can take my breath away. OTOH, I can look at a nude woman all day and not really notice it. That's part of my fascination with nude modeling, I think.

Sep 12 08 03:22 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Janice Marie Foote wrote:
I thought GWC meant "Guy With Cock"...

lol

I tell ya, how many GWC's are there??!!

lol

Sep 12 08 03:23 pm Link

Model

Janice Marie Foote

Posts: 11483

Hollywood Starlet wrote:

Creative Art and Light wrote:
I know I'm a newbie so I'm placing myself at risk of ridicule here, but I think that sometimes the term is used to loosely. There are guys out there who buy cameras just to photograph women. They range from perverts to Playboy photographers. However, I think your definition is probably the closest to how I perceive the term.

A couple of years ago I contacted a model to ask if she was interested in working on some photos for our portfolios. I don't know what I said wrong but I assure you all I made no sexual references, no insinuations that I was looking for a date, nor was I even wanting to do nudes or even swimwear. She emailed me back and said that I was just a GWC and to leave her alone. Not being very savvy, I didn't know what a GWC was so I asked the question on another popular forum. Man, did I open up a can of worms! I was roasted in there! I earned the GWC name and could not shake it. The only reason it stuck is because I had just quit my job as a photojournalist and wanted to branch into commercial photography. I had worked with three models and only had three photos posted at the time. So, because I did not have an extensive portfolio I was labeled a GWC. I had worked as a pro photographer for years but in another field.

So I think that we might ought to take it easy on the beginners and not throw that label out too quickly. Models should always be on guard to stay safe and if something does not feel right, don't shoot with a photog. But don't label him with that unless it is clear he deserves it.

Sorry for the rant, but I'm glad to see the issue discussed. Thanks for posting that.

Glenn C
All photographers were once a GWC or FWC - Female.. minus perversion...

You gotta start somewhere, right?

smile

I think The Divine Emily Fine would openly debate you about the female minus perversion part!!!

Sep 12 08 03:24 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Imagebuffet wrote:
I have never looked at a woman and imagined her naked. That might be because I lack imagination (though, my Mom always complained that I have too much imagination). As it happens, even when I see a woman naked, there is some sort of shield in my mind that keeps me from really appreciating that fact. I don't really understand that. On the one hand, a beautiful, sexy nude can take my breath away. OTOH, I can look at a nude woman all day and not really notice it. That's part of my fascination with nude modeling, I think.

Professional!!

Driven and focused???

That must be it.

Sep 12 08 03:25 pm Link

Model

Hollywood Starlet

Posts: 5487

Beverly Hills, California, US

Janice Marie Foote wrote:
I think The Divine Emily Fine would openly debate you about the female minus perversion part!!!

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Hollywood Starlet wrote:
All photographers were once a GWC or FWC - Female.. minus perversion...

You gotta start somewhere, right?

smile

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
Are you saying that FWC have no perversion?  lol

lol

No, I meant for both, just making sure everyone knew what the "F" meant.

No confusions.

big_smile

Sep 12 08 03:26 pm Link