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Do's and Don'ts for a 1st TF shoot
Hello my pretties, can you all recall your first shoot with a photographer. What are some do's and don'ts that you've learned since that experience. Also, what do you suggest bringing with you. Feb 07 11 12:36 am Link PaganBBW wrote: Interesting question. I'm new too! :-) Feb 07 11 12:42 am Link petite_one_M wrote: spend 2 hours on a make - up on the set Feb 07 11 12:56 am Link Crystal Perido wrote: *sigh* that was certainly helpful Feb 07 11 01:03 am Link OP, it's hard to generalize. Underlying all of it, though, is having some conscious understanding or what you'd like to accomplish and having the clearest perception possible of what the photographer is trying to accomplish. Be rested, be relaxed and you'll be fine. Feb 07 11 01:05 am Link Either ensure that the photographers has a concept in mind so that you can think of potential poses and expressions and makeup or, create some concepts to discuss with the photographer as a collaborative effort. If you are doing nudes, bring your own robe, the photographer many times does not supply one. Arrive a little early to be ready for the shoot and to check out the environment both physically and psychologically to make sure you feel comfortable with all aspects before you start. Be friendly and outgoing, we seldom like working with sourpusses. If you are unclear about images or turnaround time, check before you start so both of you are on the same page (will you get prints and digitals, how many, what kind) All of this should have been discussed before hand but if you are still unsure, clear it up before you spend your time and the photographer's time needlessly Feb 07 11 01:11 am Link Jack Kegley Photography wrote: Thank you for the insightful response. Feb 07 11 01:17 am Link Essential Form wrote: Thank you for the advice. Feb 07 11 01:18 am Link Be humble, modest, and down to earth. Feb 07 11 01:20 am Link Essential Form wrote: "sigh" that is helpful for a class in "psychology on the set" Feb 07 11 01:22 am Link bring a bottle of water and some candy bars in case the artist is a poor guest Feb 07 11 01:23 am Link Would really love some responses from the models.  Feb 07 11 01:23 am Link Jack Kegley Photography wrote: sigh - tell him you want his shirt - he'll probably oblige Feb 07 11 01:26 am Link Chuckarelei wrote: be self confident, bold and relaxed - the worst that can happen is that you lose a few hours of a lifetime Feb 07 11 01:35 am Link Know what looks good for you. Know our poses. Know how to fill space. Know your expressions. Do your makeup. Do your hair. Do your nails. Bring a few costume changes. Bring a few props. Bring snacks and drinks. Have enough time. Ask for a break before you take one. But take a break. Understand the shoot before you show up. Be on time. Treat it as a regular paid shoot. Feb 07 11 01:49 am Link and mind your back at all times  Feb 07 11 02:13 am Link  Moderator Warning!Crystal Perido wrote: You're getting awfully close to trolling and all that it brings on. Feb 07 11 02:19 am Link PaganBBW wrote: DO check references and tell someone where you'll be. Make sure you've discussed the general plans. Feb 07 11 02:27 am Link - Phil H - wrote: Phil Feb 07 11 02:34 am Link - Phil H - wrote: In Crystals defense, I think she was saying some things NOT to do at a shoot since my original question had been Do's and Don'ts Feb 07 11 02:40 am Link PaganBBW wrote: of course and please don't do your nails on the set either Feb 07 11 03:45 am Link sorry I am not a model, but here are some tips posted "a while ago" from some models and MUA and photographers ... Model Matters > models,dont do this... (Excerps from MM thread_id=77473) first-part by: Mary Female, MUA https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=1958 don't eat while we are doing makeup don't take smoke breaks, you smell when you come back, the clothes smell too. don't answer your phone while workiing...Hello! you are WORKING! You are not running a country, nothing is that important. don't show up with greasy hair or roots that need coloring (YUCK, it's so gross) don't ask me to change anything or tell me how you like your makeup (unless you are paying me and thats unlikely) be on time.... our time is money and we all get paid while we sit and wait on you, unless you're a supermodel, you're not worth waiting for. ----- These things are so simple, why is it that so many models need to be reminded of this? isn't this common sense? Agency models rarely commit these sins but unfortunately clients sometimes use non-agency "models" and 9 times out of 10 they just are not professional. if youre a webmodel that does nothing but TFP, I don't care what you do but when you are being paid you need to act like a pro. Sep 20 06 01:09 pm ----------------------- SINched I'll add to the list: Wear clear deodorant so you don't stain the clothes. Shave/wax/trim whatever you need to before the shoot. Sep 20 06 01:34 pm -------------------- Chris Ross Popping out for a smoke break and coming in is about the same as somebody popping into the toilet for a bit and coming out smelling like shit for the afternoon, not pretty. Sep 20 06 01:41 pm ---------------------- Cardillo Photography Here is a list of the tips that I send to models that I will be working with Tips for a model with an upcoming shoot 1) Arrive at the shoot on time or even a bit early. If you are late, this will take away from the time allotted for the shoot. This could also make it feel like the shoot is being rushed. 2) Get plenty of rest the day before the shoot. Get a good night's sleep. This will keep you from looking tired during the shoot. 3) Keep jewelry to a minimum. Seeing the same necklace with different outfits takes away from the impact of the images. I ask that jewelry be used in 1 set of pictures, or better still, not in any of them. This is true of watches also. 4) Try to wear solid colors. Nothing detracts from a model's face or figure more than an outfit covered in busy patterns and prints. 5) Make sure that your outfits fit well. While this seems obvious, too many times I have heard of a model wearing ill-fitting clothes that do nothing, but divert from the attention of the portfolio viewer. Swimsuits should fit snug, with no gaps showing when you move. They shouldn't be too tight. 6) Please make sure that the swimsuits you will be wearing cover up any tan lines that you might have. A suit that is too small for your tan lines will result in undesirable photos. 7) If you plan on using a roll-on or solid deodorant, please use a clear one not a white solid. Or even better use a spray deodorant. A solid can leave a residue that can be seen or get on clothing. 8) If you are having skin problems, such as sunburn or peeling from sunburn, please call and reschedule. 9) Regarding makeup: Bring several colors and styles of makeup. Try to keep makeup light and but not overdone. Be prepared to change makeup styles during the shoot, you do not want to get locked into one look. 10) Bring examples and/or tear sheets from magazines. We can try to simulate or copy from them. They also give a good idea of what you want to try and do. 11) Come to the shoot wearing loose fitting clothing. This will minimize tight clothing lines and marks. If at all possible wear the smallest undergarments you have or wear none at all. Smaller garments make smaller lines that might be able to be covered up. 12) Please trim or shave private areas the day before the shoot in order to avoid stubble or razor rash. For underarm areas, you might try to use some kind of hair removal cream that is designed for underarm or bikini areas. Either way, you should bring a razor and some soap or cream just in case. Sep 20 06 01:54 pm -------------- Mary re: smoking on the shoot ... makeup artists have to be in your face...Photographers dont. Trust me, if you smoke you stink. as for nerves quieted by smoking .... If modeling makes you that nervous it may not be the job for you. to add....... When you are wearing clothing brought in by a stylist you'll be in heaps of trouble for smoking in them or putting them on a body that reaks of smoke.... Mary (MUA) in addition to my rant....I used to smoke, I did for many years, I didnt know I stunk because I was so used to it....nobody told me I smelled because people are too nice...I know now how bad I smelled to everyone around me...when I smoked my senses were dulled to this stench Sep 20 06 02:08 pm ================== and now some of my own ideas ... Professional conduct ... Check your email EVERY day!!! Always respond, in a timely fashion, to any call/email/etc. Always say what you mean, and mean what you say. Always give ADVANCE notice if something happens and you cannot meet your committment. Pre-Shoot Preparations & Supplies ... Unless you are going to be doing a paid shoot where all of the clothing and make-up artist are supplied (check that all clothing is cleaned and the makeup artist is a pro, so you do not get someones bacteria) .... you must bring allyour own supplies and clothing, and be ready to pose. (A) Supplies include: 1) full makeup kit, including Derma-blend makeup(covers bruises/etc) as well as brushes and combs and various hair-styling clips/etc, 2) sewing supplies for any sudden tears or lost buttons and such, 3) feminine hygene supplies, 4) bottles of water, 5) makeup and nail removal supplies. 6) general medical: tylenol, sudafed, band-aids, lens-cleaners, special-meds she may need, waterbabies-spf45 sunscreen, etc. (B) Clothing depends upon the kind of photoshoot assignment 'Model' is booked for. I.E. , fashion, sports, gymnastics, swimwear, aerobics, etc. The photographer should have some ideas as to what selections of clothing is needed for this particular shoot. (C) model preparations: 1) fully rested, 2) makeup kit and clothing cleaned, coordinated, ready to wear, 3) breakfast!! (D) model safety: ALWAYS ... 1) get work-references from the photog -and- CHECK each one!!, 2) take a companion with you, and leave someone complete info on where/when you are, 3) use the 'phone-call' system ... arrange (and tell photog) to call a friend a) just as you park your car, b) 15-minutes later, c) 40-minutes later, d) at the shoot-end, -and- e) after you get into your car. ---------------------- hope this helps! Feb 07 11 04:52 am Link Harry Young wrote: well done Harry Feb 07 11 04:58 am Link The biggest piece of advice I can add to the list is to ask the photographer questions as you go. Since it would be your first, maybe ask if he/she can show you some images in camera so you can see how you are doing. Ask for advice on how to pose your body to look your best. Feb 07 11 04:59 am Link and then don't forget the most important DO HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feb 07 11 05:10 am Link PaganBBW wrote: Depends on the theme of the shoot/whats preset, but from my point of view: Feb 07 11 05:16 am Link Essential Form wrote: This plus be as sure as possible you can pulll off concepts discussed, and have proper wardrobe and/or props if needed to make them happen... and enjoy Feb 07 11 07:36 am Link I guess it depends on the shoot! Since I don't know what is the shoot, I'll go with my experience (commercial/fashion shoots) : Here the "DO" list : - Sleep well the day before; - Make sure you have every information about the place you are going and have the phone number or the photographer (you can confirm the shoot a couple of days before to make sure everything is ok); - If you need to do your makeup, bring your makeup and come in with a natural one on, you can play with it when you'll get to your shoot; - If you need to make your hair, bring what you need to do it properly (products, hair iron, etc.) - If you need to bring wardrobe, make sure you have discuss it with the photographer as you don't want to bring ALL of your clothes...! Bring a couple of outfits (6-10) with which you can play with easily and accessories that are great; - Get there on time; - Be professional at any time during the shoot (if you are not comfortable doing something, don't do it - stay true to yourself without being unprofessional); - Bring the basics if you're not bringing your own wardrobe : nude underwear (bras, panties), black underwear, black tights, nude tights, clear nailpolish, moisturizer, etc. I'm sure I forgot plenty of stuff, but if you ever need more infos, don't hesitate to PM me or ask on here a specific question! Hope it helps! LC Feb 07 11 11:08 am Link LC Mtl wrote: Great advice. Feb 07 11 11:23 am Link Things I wish someone had told me: Trust your instincts You know what clothing looks good on you, what make up looks good on you, etc. Bring some options that you like and trust as far as clothing and apply your makeup in such a way that makes you feel best. Practice your poses and expressions in the mirror. Don't be afraid to look silly. Wake up early. I know that sounds kind of ridiculous, but my first few shoots ended up looking quite silly because I wasn't confident in what I was doing. Oh, and make a list of all the things you want to bring. Pack the night before as well. Best of luck! Feb 07 11 12:03 pm Link PaganBBW wrote: Don't flaunt or mix religion with photography. Unless it's a shoot embracing a religion, it doesn't belong. Let yourself become known for your great modeling, not for being the "Pagan BBW". Feb 07 11 12:18 pm Link Freddie Faith Keller wrote: My screen name here is just kept the same as my email and DA accounts, I kept it the same just because I like it and I'll remember it Feb 07 11 02:19 pm Link Discuss everything in advance. Hair, makeup, wardrobe, location, escort rules, shoot length, start time, your limits, the approximate number of images you'll get, if they'll be edited, how long you can expect to wait for edited images, how you'll be getting them (CD, email), photographers off-MM contact info... EVERYTHING. That said, here's an article I wrote on what you should do for your first shoot: http://www.examiner.com/modeling-in-chi … new-models And here are my "bring it" lists, which many models have found helpful: http://racheljay.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/bring-it/ http://racheljay.wordpress.com/2008/09/ … it-ver-20/ Feb 07 11 02:28 pm Link Rachel Jay wrote: Great advice Rachel! Feb 07 11 02:33 pm Link Rachel Jay wrote: Best Advice Ever! I can't stress the importance of discussing things ahead of schedule. Communication is an important factor. My advice for the OP is to be on time, come ready to shoot and have fun. Feb 07 11 02:42 pm Link 1 - Sign a model release before you shoot. 2 - beforehand know what you are going to shoot and make sure you feel comfortable, if not don't shoot 3 - check references, other models in the port for their experience 4 - I give a cd immediately after the shoot of proofs so that the model can choose what she likes pre-retouching and that we can work together to get what we both want from the TF shoot. TF means you are working together for a final result that you both use. Good luck! Feb 07 11 02:45 pm Link -Do nails and toes the night before, preferably in a nude or clear color. -If I'm doing my own hair and mu, I do the basics before I get there then add on once the photographer is with me to get his opinion, that way I don't waste time doing things I'd have to do anyways, like foundation and smoothing out my hair. -Try not to use your phone, be attentive, even if you're bored. -Try not to wear restrictive clothing as it can leave indents in your skin -Bring a robe, it'll be nice to covor up and keep warm when you can! -Bring mints, not gum. -Bring snacks with you. -Bring your port or zed card (if you have one) with you, it's always nice for people on set to flip through to see more of your work -Make sure you mapquest and look at google earth of where you're going! Nothing is worse than being lost and running late, you want to be as relaxed as possible! -Bring a lint roller and wrinkle release with you. -Have fun!! You're going to do great! Feb 07 11 02:46 pm Link Jack Kegley Photography wrote: This is really important. If you have specific demands, like wanting a CD with all of the images, make sure the photographer knows that before the shoot. Feb 07 11 02:57 pm Link P1Photography wrote: Not everyone does this and it's not the "right" way. It's all about what you negotiate. Just make sure you know clearly what the process will be if it's important to you. Feb 07 11 03:00 pm Link I don't know if this has been said before but I'll add it to the huge list we have goin on here. DO ask to see the whole reel, so you can see what did or didn't work so that you can grow as a model. DON'T post proofs, I hear photographers get real angry about that. and DON'T edit your photo's without permission, and only if it's good. Nothing worse than a new model that has guassian blur and badly done liquify in her port. More natural the better when you start. Feb 07 11 04:30 pm Link |
