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Anyone else have bad TF shoot experiences?
I have been on a couple of TF shoots with photographers I have never met before, & they seem really eager to work together & nice in person once we do shoot. Now, I don't have a problem if a photographer is going to take a while to get pictures delivered to me, but has anyone else experienced a photographer say they will deliver your pictures by a specific time & then never send them? & on top of that, they ignore you for long periods of time. WHY DO THEY DO THIS?! It's so unprofessional!! Nov 06 11 08:53 pm Link hmmm... I smell something fishy going on here.. or maybe the person is so unprofessional. I hope you get your pics soon.. good luck  Nov 06 11 09:06 pm Link Don't get me started.... Unfortunately there are ignorant, selfish, lazy, inconsiderate people everywhere, and sometimes you don't spot them until it's too late. Wish i could give you advise but there doesn't seem to be any sure fire methods. Nov 06 11 09:07 pm Link Erin x3D wrote: Sometimes things come up. I disappeared for a month due to illness and then immediately contacted all the models to let them know once I was back. Nov 06 11 09:09 pm Link I have had such problems. However, mine was due to working with inlaws. Then, my work isnt as important as other models. So I would get the "Well, I WOULD do yours now, but I just had another shoot and I want to do hers first." and then there was another shoot. And another. And another. And when she did have time, she didnt feel like it. I was lucky enough to be able to go over and take all the pictures unedited and just do them myself. My sister had a shoot with the same person, and never got her pictures. Some people just dont know how to prioritize, and then they end out never getting it done. Nov 06 11 09:15 pm Link Oh gosh, not ever, no. Nov 06 11 09:19 pm Link Damianne wrote: Whatevah are your secrets? Nov 06 11 09:20 pm Link this happens in all walks of life, professional, hobby, or otherwise. If the photog hasn't posted them in his/her own port then maybe just none of them turned out any good... sorry about your experience. I just did my first MM TF shoot and had a great time. Hit or miss, I guess... Nov 06 11 09:20 pm Link J Romo wrote: I'd have to agree with this ...maybe the shots turned out bad and he not a person that deals with confrontation. Just doesn't have the stones to tell ya. Nov 06 11 09:29 pm Link Erin x3D wrote: I just had one today. And I'm a photographer. Does that count? Nov 06 11 11:08 pm Link Cherrystone wrote: Always bring an escort, never shoot TF* or pay models, keep caution tape on my person at all times, Jesus, and nudes are for people that don't respect their bodies. Nov 06 11 11:10 pm Link Damianne wrote: HA! ^_^ Nov 06 11 11:21 pm Link Erin x3D wrote: Sometimes, photographers ignore models for long periods of time because of, being in prison or, in dead. You can verify either with a simple phone call to your local county jails and hospitals. Nov 06 11 11:23 pm Link my bald cap shoot was tf and I waited long for it but I was told I'm gonna wait a while. And the pics were definitely worth it If it takes longer than a month then you should start wondering. BUt otherwise just be patient. THey might have paid projects which are their main focus Nov 06 11 11:26 pm Link Erin x3D wrote: Oh God, yes. Nov 07 11 12:47 am Link Yeah, I'm sure everyone has had a bad TF experience. I never got photos back from someone. I emailed, MM messaged, they just stopped replying. Another one has said a couple times "yeah I'm working on them, you'll get them" but it's been quite a long time and I'm not holding my breath. Nov 07 11 03:37 am Link you'll find people like that everywhere yes, TF shoots is a risk sometimes, and I've had plenty of bad experiences. But it's still really fun to dom so it's worth it! next time, before you book the shoot, ask other models who have worked with the photographer what their experience is. especially when it comes to ''he doesn't deliver pictures'', it's my experience that those photographers do that all the time, so you will most likely hear that come back to you when you start asking around. don't let the bad experiences spoil the fun! Nov 07 11 03:44 am Link Just about everybody I know of who does TF on a regular basis have had at least one negative TF experience. Hell I've had several. It doesn't necessarily make TF a bad thing. Nov 07 11 03:47 am Link Damianne wrote: Bring your angel wings too and lets shoot!!! I live right near railroad tracks!! Nov 07 11 03:53 am Link Maggie Murder wrote: Oh, yes they do know how to prioritize, unfortunately for you, you were not a priority to them. Nov 07 11 03:56 am Link Erin x3D wrote: This isn't unique to TF. Nov 07 11 05:21 am Link I always deliver images within a week. I am awesome. Nov 07 11 05:27 am Link Hmm I'v had one since I started modelling in Feb which I don't think is too bad. My bad experience was working with a photographer that constantly tried to push my limits..'oh I'v had a fantastic idea..oh wait you don't shoot to those levels,' I definately would have described this photographer as subtly pushy, he wasn't mega pushy but it did make me wary of him. It was a home shoot at my house and my boyfriend had taken my daughter upstairs so me and the photographer could work on our ideas in piece..My boyfriend came downstairs to offer myself and said photographer a coffee which we accepted..he walked in front of the lights into the shooting space to get to the kitchen (we weren't shooting), the photographer gave 'the eye' and tutted..I wasn't thrilled but yeah, I got on with it. The shoot over ran 2 hours, we had sceduled for 2 we shot for 4, as the photographer had messed the lights up somehow or another..yet again, I got in with it. We finished the shoot and he went home. 4 months later, no pictures. 6 months later I got 3 pictures back..my red lips had been re touched to look flaky and the same with my skin..I couldn't use the pictures. Nov 07 11 05:34 am Link I've had many models break their commitments both for TF and paid shoots. I've only had a few times where the shoot itself didn't go well. Unfortunately, there are many here who do not stick to their commitments. Either accept some will people will not follow through, or take the appropriate steps to ensure you are shooting with someone who will follow through. Nov 07 11 05:35 am Link C L A V I C wrote: *slow clap Nov 07 11 05:35 am Link Maria Michaela wrote:
Nov 07 11 05:40 am Link A few reasons 1: I am behind on editing at mo, so 4 to 6 weeks if you shoot with me currently, full time job just saps up all my free time, but I always deliver. 2: Maybe the photographer did not do well and is not happy with the results and is to embarressed to say I cocked up, sorry. Then you will probably never get the images. 3: Photographer is just a ass, who regulary does not deliver or communicate. Nov 07 11 05:41 am Link Damianne wrote: Cherrystone wrote:
Nov 07 11 05:53 am Link Agree with the other photogs. Sometimes paid work takes priority, sometimes life gets in the way. You also have to remember that if they are particular, editing can take a super long time. Either way, give him/her some time and give them the chance to follow through. Nov 07 11 05:56 am Link The Alternative Image wrote: this Nov 07 11 06:00 am Link Maggie Murder wrote: never work with family or 'friends'. they assume a lot of 'latitude' and forgiveness. it looks bad on their character and sours the relationship. I lost $16,000 on a business deal with some 20yr+ close friends. It was very ugly in the end. Nov 07 11 06:09 am Link Meh, it happens. I'd rather have a photographer take his/her time and do great editing than feel like they have to rush and get so-so results. Nov 07 11 06:09 am Link I hate having editing pending, but sometimes life gets in the way and sometimes it just takes a long time. Sometimes I'll do all the edits, wait a day and hate them all and do it al over again. Either way, it's not nice to not reply to contacts. Nov 07 11 06:15 am Link Erin x3D wrote: always do your very best get something in writing with a signature on it as to what and when you will receive images. I use a model agreement that gives a date that the model will have their CD delivered to them. If I get held up, I message the model asap and let them know--then update them frequently. I have missed very few delivery dates and as far as I know--have never been blackballed by a model. for me--its a matter of professional standards, maturity, and character. dependability is proven, not just talked about. Nov 07 11 06:17 am Link  Nov 07 11 06:20 am Link Erin x3D wrote: That's almost like asking "Anyone else have any TF shoot experiences?". Nov 07 11 06:25 am Link Nearly every conflict I've ever seen discussed here can largely be prevented. First.. a very careful screening process. If the person you are about to work with seems then DON'T even consider working with them. In short.. don't be desperate. Be selective. Second: Spell out all terms before you get together. Times, dates, expectations, delivery of images, number of images, etc, etc, etc... Third: Kindness begets kindness. Always put your best foot forward. People will normally respond similarly. There is no guaranteed formula, and I fully recognize this, but these three things will get you very close to a 'no issues' shoot. I've been creating images with MM models for two years, and I have yet to have a problem once someone makes it to my studio. Nov 07 11 06:26 am Link My editing takes me about 2hrs or more sometimes. I go crazy with the healing brush. :-) And the few times I did shoot I had a vacation planned right after so my delivery of images took some time. I told the models this. My first TF* MM shoot did not go well. My style and the models style did not mesh at all. But yet I did not get discouraged and persisted to shoot with other models. I had a huge dry spell and all of a sudden I did a workshop with 7 models and shot with 2 other models on top of that. Needless to say I am overwhelmed right now but slowly getting the images out. When it rains it pours. Nov 07 11 06:37 am Link I think that bad experiences are a given at some point in this industry as you are working with people you don't know and who may be working with different ideas and standards from your own. I've had fantastic experiences and some where I would never work with the individual again. Gotta take the good with the bad and keep on moving! Best of luck!! Nov 07 11 06:41 am Link I have recently run longer than expected in editing photos, but I have stayed in contact with my clients the best I can. I hate falling back on the "life gets in the way" excuse, but real life does pop up in the TF world from time to time. Paying gigs coming up, working out marital issues will factor in the order of editing. I may not be a professional in the true sense, but I try to conduct myself as much as possible and truly respect the effort put out by the models I have worked with. That being said, I hope the OP has more positive experiences than negative. Nov 07 11 06:58 am Link |
