Nico K wrote:
I had a quick check to see if anybody has already posted this, but couldn't find any. Apologies if this is already up, but I thought this was rather interesting and would love to hear thoughts.

http://elitedaily.com/elite/2012/elite- … net-model/
Elite Obituary: The Internet Model

"These internet models are some of the more disingenuous persons in society: not only do internet models scream out for attention by demanding a place on the fashion scene, they also cheat their way onto the screens of millions of users. Meanwhile, the actual chance of these girls’ wistful dreams of fashion fame are near zero, even with digital surgery."

Jeez, where is all this hating coming from??
For me, the modeling that I do is not about wanting to get my foot in the door of conventional fashion modeling - far from it...
It's about creating and owning my own form of media and controlling my own image (at least the ones that I have rights to) and exploring my own creative means...

Nobody would write an article like this about amateur bands or photographers, so what the hell at models getting the bash like this

That article will have zero effect on the landscape of things so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Do they have an actual print edition?

Or are they just an "internet magazine?"

Presley ONeil wrote:
That was the worst, most uninformed piece of garbage I've ever read. If it is in print, better use would be for fire/heat. So rude.

Haha, I would love it if you posted those exact words on the link!
You might think it's a waste of time, but I had to leave a comment there directly to give the writer (or perhaps an "Internet writer"?) a piece of my mind.

Must have been a real slow day at the office.

Nico K wrote:
Jeez, where is all this hating coming from??

Same place this came from. This is that whole article written out in four lines:

"Interwebs models tend, more than actual living, breathing, walking and talking genuine models in the real world, to be self-delusional hubristic narcissist wannabes with grandiose egos and sense of self-worth, who somehow divine that if they label themselves as a "model" they are, as if by magic, transformed into one."

Basically for someone who claims to be an Internet model, it is likely that the "real world" is laughing behind your back... you just don't realise it.

Studio36

Dark Shadows wrote:
To be honest, fashion models have always sort of turned their nose up at other models such as glamour, fitness, nude ect. Fashion is sort of it's own little private fraternity.

Oh you don't have to tell me to convince me that... For me, with my body type and looks clearly not in the "desirable" category in the conventional fashion world, I wouldn't waste my time hoping to be picked up a local agency but instead enjoy creating my own works and images without worrying about market prospects and commercial values.

Fashion modeling is all about selling things, and I do not model to sell things. Period.

Dark Shadows wrote:
To be honest, fashion models have always sort of turned their nose up at other models such as glamour, fitness, nude ect. Fashion is sort of it's own little private fraternity. This was definitely true before the internet, although now that internet models are making money off newbie shooters, I guess they are a lot more visible and a larger target.

In the end, I don't think you'll cross paths too often. Your clients are generally very different than a fashion models clients.

It would be a reasonable assumption but I am afraid not altogether true.
Journeyman models regularly cross paths with top professional fashion models especially in places like London. Often you can be working on the same jobs. Especially if you work it fitting modelling. I haven't found any arrogant ones; the girls I did catwalk with have been really nice; and the same at fashion parties etc. And despite being on £5k a day from their Agencies a few of them also have MM ports.

The person who wrote the blog article clearly hasn't got a clue about the bulk of modelling work. They consider it only in the tiny percentage of modelling that is editorial fashion. That represents in turn only a tiny percentage of fashion work. Of course that is the most visible; so even people here make that mistake.

Rollo David Snook wrote:
The irony is that it's badly written by...

...an internet magazine!

There's no balance or human perspective to the story at all.

It places the writer at the very level she's protesting about.

It's just an attack, and not really very well thought out either.

Internet jounalism. The irony is indeed that they are not held acountable to the same kind of standards as a newspaper. And their crit of social networking of course can be levelled against the very blog they are writing as you say. But of course you get some fabulous net journaism and blogging - this isn't an example

Revenge Photography wrote:
Is it just me or have they now disabled the ability to leave a comment on that article?

When I left my comment there were a handful of others all negative,

I thought that after I posted my retort but then reloaded it and it was all still there.

Eliza C wrote:

I thought that after I posted my retort but then reloaded it and it was all still there.

I just liked your comment rather than add a reply in support.. because all those long words confused me haha

Anna Adrielle wrote:
the simple fact that they pretend like there is no other type of modelling besides professional fashion modelling shows that they have no idea what they're talking about

Professional top editorial fashion modelling at that. Catalogue, fitting, regional mag editorial, boutique and designer commerical work, showroom, etc didn't come up on their radar yet accounts for the vast majority of professional fashion modelling .

But yes essentially that is what I put in my retort.

Eliza C wrote:

Professional top editorial fashion modelling at that. Catalogue, fitting, regional mag editorial, boutique and designer commerical work, showroom, etc didn't come up on their radar yet accounts for the vast majority of professional fashion modelling .

But yes essentially that is what I put in my retort.

not to mention every other type of modelling: promo, glamour, fetish, art nude, figure study nude, parts, hair,...

digital Artform wrote:
"modeling is a viscous career?"

I need that on a T-shirt

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Do they have an actual print edition?

Or are they just an "internet magazine?"

I swear we need a "like" button...lol! Love it!

Rich Davis wrote:
Maybe we should lose internet bloggers that don't have anything better to do.

Some of us actually research the things we write about on our blogs though....

Loona Wynd wrote:
Some of us actually research the things we write about on our blogs though....

+1.
I just won an international award for mine

Eliza C wrote:

+1.
I just won an international award for mine

Good for you.  I don't think the problem is "amateur" writers or amateur models, after all we all start out that way before we have the practice and time behind to be "professionals".  I think the problem is more its easier to write based on quick scans and "fluff" info than it is to actually spend the time to research the topic at hand.

Drew Smith Photography wrote:
It's lazy journalism (if it can be called journalism). No reasearch, no inclination to attempt to gather from a representative viewpoint.

Whom so ever did it most likely just sat there and typed out pretty much their own opinion.

+1

It's more of a rant written by someone who probably wants to be a model, not journalism.