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Jan 31 13 01:16 pm Link Quantitative vs Qualitative. Quantitative: More people bought Ipads in 4Q 2012 than 4Q 2011. Qualitative: Among people who purchased tablets the percentage of people who chose the Ipad shrunk in 4Q 2012 vs 4Q 2011. Jan 31 13 01:39 pm Link In other news, Android surged from 53% to 70% of smartphone sales in the last year. Apple slipped to 19%. http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/28/androi … s-analyst/ Jan 31 13 02:07 pm Link 37photog wrote: Those are both quantitative. Nothing wrong with with having a shrinking share of a growing market when you sell more of your product than ever before. Jan 31 13 02:08 pm Link Let There Be Light wrote: ??? ummmm, yeah, ok :-/ Jan 31 13 03:19 pm Link Instinct Images wrote: I've read Google makes very little money from Android. Jan 31 13 04:19 pm Link What Fun Productions wrote: Why Google doesn't care about how much money they've made from Android Jan 31 13 04:38 pm Link 37photog wrote: Here's the way it works: in 2010 Apple sold 15 million iPads for the year and had a 75% share of the tablet market. In just the fourth quarter of 2012 Apple sold almost 23 million iPads, more than ever before and up 48% from the same period in 2011 yet their market share dropped to 43.6%. Which result would you rather have? Jan 31 13 06:03 pm Link Let There Be Light wrote: That depends on what my profit margin is on each. If it's the same then obviously I'd rather have the higher sales but often with competition comes pressure on margins. Jan 31 13 06:14 pm Link 37photog wrote: Why would that be a problem? Jan 31 13 06:15 pm Link you guys make this about "Iphone and Android", but let me unfog the smoke and mirrors for you: Apple and Samsung control 92% of the smartphone market (1). Tablets included. They also supply each other parts, production lines, and more Usually Department of Justice and the European Commission would step in and recognize and break up a clear monopoly, but they are powerless since Apple and Samsung sue each other over 2 week's pay (2)(3), dragging largely baseless claims through the courts that take just long enough to secure an unreversible monopoly read between the lines. (1) Samsung android has 70%, Apple has 22% (2) 2 billion dollar patent infringement lawsuit that BOTH sides appealed, who does that? (3) Apple made 54 billion in pure profit last year. More than 1 billion a week. Samsung is near that level of weekly earnings too. feel free to pick apart the trivia, but the facts still stand. this is not really a contest Jan 31 13 06:37 pm Link It's all a big pie, and corporations vie to get the largest chunk of it that they can. Verizon cares about two things, how much they made, and what portion of the cell phone market they own. Target cares about two things, how much they made, and how much they made compared to Walmart, Kohls, Kmart etc... It's the reason Nielson ratings rates TV in 2 categories "Ratings/Share". Ask anyone who's worked in sales "Share" is a huge grading component to a sales staff. Case in point, the Presidential Election brings in massive advertising dollars. If a Salesperson for the local CBS affiliate says to his boss "Hey great news, I just brought in an extra $120,00 from the Mitt Romney campaign" that would not be considered good news if the ABC, NBC & Fox affiliate all brought in $200,00 in ad sales. It's not "Wow, extra money. Great!" Feb 01 13 07:17 am Link Let There Be Light wrote: 37photog wrote: He does make a good point. There are price points to consider too. Android I believe has more offering from free (with contract) to a few hundred dollars. Feb 01 13 07:24 am Link Some things to consider: 1) How much did Apple make on the deal. 2) How much did Apple leave on the table. If Apple's marketshare is shrinking but what it left on the table is the low margin, low end machines, then it isn't a problem (Apple is unlikely to ever cater to the $300 10" tablet crowd). However, if they are starting to lose the marketshare of higher margin items, that might be a problem. Feb 01 13 07:28 am Link TrianglePhoto wrote: They're almost certainly not losing marketshare of the high margin items (at least not to samsung). The iPhones consistently outsell the top Galaxy devices.. and there doesn't seem to be any catching up in the near future. Feb 01 13 07:35 am Link Instinct Images wrote: They are selling at the same price. The margin is based on hardware costs and unless that competition is causing their hardware costs to go up... Feb 01 13 07:43 am Link Christopher Hartman wrote: It certainly can if consumer demand requires them to add features/functionality without increasing the retail price. Feb 01 13 07:45 am Link R A V E N D R I V E wrote: break what up? They both make really nice products. If you want to reduce their "control", ask someone like Sony to step up with some crazy proprietary stuff that is typical of Sony. Or get Ericsson, Blackberry, and others to step up their game. Feb 01 13 07:46 am Link Feb 01 13 01:01 pm Link |