Forums > General Industry > How long on MM until you received work?

Model

Lyssie B

Posts: 2

Durham, New Hampshire, US

Just curious, did most other models on MM receive messages from photographers etc. with a desire to work with you immediately after your profile was published? Or did it take a while?

Jul 09 13 04:37 am Link

Artist/Painter

Hunter GWPB

Posts: 2090

King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, US

Everyone has different experiences.   With your look, people would be falling over each other, if you said yes to nudes.  Even saying no to nudes, I am surprised you only have 11 friends listed and not many views on your pictures.  Not getting a lot of attention, isn't a bad thing though, if people who don't follow through aren't bothering.  You say you are experienced, which some may interpret that you expect to be paid, even though you do not say paid assignments only.  Maybe offering to do a couple of TF shoots to build your portfolio and get some more exposure.

This thread was your first post.  Perhaps you should introduce yourself in the newbie section.  You can use the forums to make yourself known a little bit but think very carefully before you speak.  You should read the forums and get a feel for what happens if you aren't careful. 

I think you are somewhat at a disadvantage being in New Hampshire.  You are in a rural state near big and very competitive markets.  You are going to have to market yourself a bit, through the forums, announcements, and by entering in the pic of the day contest.  If you are traveling any this summer, put in a travel announcement.   Use the casting calls.   Are you going away for college in the fall?  You might want to set up a profile for your college location now.

You certainly are attractive.  Most of your pics are good, but I have some comments that I will send in a PM.  It is a fine line, that I don't want to cross, between answering your question and critiquing.

Edit:
Also comment on pics and list pics of photographers and artists who are close enough to you to work with.

Jul 09 13 05:17 am Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8698

Olney, Maryland, US

You need to increase your visibility:  Post in forums.  Request a few friends in your area but don't necessarily overdo it.  Browse for photographers in your area.  Casting calls and availability notices.  Tag photographers in your area, comment on their images.

Jul 09 13 05:18 am Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8698

Olney, Maryland, US

Hunter Wald wrote:
Are you going away for college in the fall?  You might want to set up a profile for your college location now.

Or you can add a second location to your current profile and keep everything in one place.

Jul 09 13 05:21 am Link

Photographer

Images by MR

Posts: 8250

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

If the model is only 5' 2" and doesn't shoot nudes it's unlikely they would ever receive offers for paid work.

Just my thoughts ~ MR

Jul 09 13 05:29 am Link

Model

Lyssie B

Posts: 2

Durham, New Hampshire, US

I suppose when I posted this I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean the question at a personal level, I was simply curious. On the contrary, I actually received a flood of requests and already have 5 shoots planned, as my profile has only been approved for public display for a day. I do appreciate the responses though! Thanks much!

Jul 09 13 05:43 am Link

Model

Eedi Jennar

Posts: 2

Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia

I joined a couple of months ago but only completed my pic uploads and activated my account about 1 week ago. Don't sit & wait, there are thousands of model on MM so why would they come to us, a new & unknown. Put yourself forward and see what comes back. If you are genuine and committed don't give up !! Within a few days I have already picked up a TFP job and applied for several others.  Keep trying and Good Luck.

Jul 09 13 05:55 am Link

Photographer

JSandersPhotography

Posts: 1387

Topeka, Kansas, US

Alyssa Mann wrote:
Just curious, did most other models on MM receive messages from photographers etc. with a desire to work with you immediately after your profile was published? Or did it take a while?

A got a few messages within a few months of signing here, but it took over a year to actually work with an MM model.

Jul 09 13 06:08 am Link

Photographer

L Bass

Posts: 957

Nacogdoches, Texas, US

Alyssa Mann wrote:
I suppose when I posted this I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean the question at a personal level, I was simply curious. On the contrary, I actually received a flood of requests and already have 5 shoots planned, as my profile has only been approved for public display for a day. I do appreciate the responses though! Thanks much!

As a pretty girl of 18 years old (even with 9 of 11 port shots being basic head shots) you can expect a flood of incredible offers to pour in. My only advice would be.... be careful! You will soon learn that not all of these incredible offers have merit.

I wish you all the best!

Jul 09 13 06:50 am Link

Model

Julia Francesca

Posts: 2393

Maumee, Ohio, US

Pretty much immediately, it got so overwhelming that I had to take a break from modeling like a month after making my MM because it was just too much lol,

Jul 09 13 07:01 am Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 22968

Salem, Oregon, US

it took a long time for me to get to the point where models were asking me for shoots rather than the other way around. and i think that removing most of the full nudes helped with that. i have been asked about my rates but so far haven't been paid directly by a model (i've made some money indirectly through knowing models).

Jul 09 13 07:38 am Link

Photographer

Miss Photog

Posts: 287

VALLEY VILLAGE, California, US

yes, I started getting emails & TAGs right away to work with various photographers.

Jul 09 13 07:43 am Link

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Photographer

GPS Studio Services

Posts: 37844

San Francisco, California, US

Alyssa Mann wrote:
I suppose when I posted this I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean the question at a personal level, I was simply curious. On the contrary, I actually received a flood of requests and already have 5 shoots planned, as my profile has only been approved for public display for a day. I do appreciate the responses though! Thanks much!

FYI, whenever a new model signs up, she gets flooded.  There will be a lot of shoots, particularly a lot of TF shoots.  You have a great look so I expect your inbox to be full for a while.

The measure is going to be what happens six weeks from now.  You have a wonderful look so it will be interesting to see if the offers have legs down the road and how many turn into legitimate, paid gigs.

I wish you were closer, I would hire you.  In the meantime I wish you all the best.  Let us know how it works out and keep posting in the forums.

Jul 09 13 08:02 am Link

Photographer

David Nelson Photograph

Posts: 348

San Antonio, Texas, US

Once a week or so I do a search for models in my area and look for new members to see if they have a look I am after.  I've had just as many models contact me, something like, "Hi, I'm new to the area and I looked at your website and would love to do a session with you.  If you're interested let me know."  This gets my attention and I do a session with most.

Jul 09 13 08:03 am Link

Photographer

LeonardG Photography

Posts: 100

Los Angeles, California, US

There are members who constantly proposition any new model that gets approved. If you look at new profiles, you can see the same tags. That would translate also to getting messages from others who do the exact same thing. The new model's look seems irrelevant, and the same ones contact the female models, the same ones contact the male models.

The majority of models on MM know nothing about the nature of internet modeling and often have totally wrong assumptions about how things function; so they are ripe for all kinds of problems. While there are reasonable offers and decent photographers, picking through them takes a bit of smarts.

Jul 09 13 10:04 am Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8698

Olney, Maryland, US

Alyssa Mann wrote:
I suppose when I posted this I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean the question at a personal level, I was simply curious. On the contrary, I actually received a flood of requests and already have 5 shoots planned, as my profile has only been approved for public display for a day. I do appreciate the responses though! Thanks much!

Just be sure not to deposit a check and then send money to a third party.

Jul 09 13 11:15 am Link

Photographer

SayCheeZ!

Posts: 18369

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Images by MR wrote:
If the model is only 5' 2" and doesn't shoot nudes it's unlikely they would ever receive offers for paid work.

Just my thoughts ~ MR

Geez, not this bullshit again.

I know MANY small models that get work on a continuing basis, through licensed and legitimate agencies without gettin' naked.


GPS Studio Services wrote:
FYI, whenever a new model signs up, she gets flooded.  There will be a lot of shoots, particularly a lot of TF shoots.  You have a great look so I expect your inbox to be full for a while.

I totally agree with GPS.  The only real caveat is be very selective of the first set of offers that you get. 

I don't know who the first set of photographers that contacted you were, I hope they're all pretty good ones, but with that said there are some 'photographers' that practically do nothing all day except wait for a new model to appear on MM.  They'll contact one new member after another (provided that they're attractive females, or to some people... attractive males).

Usually those guys have portfolios that lack in quality, so be selective and don't feel like you must shoot with the first people that contacted you.

Jul 09 13 11:46 am Link

Model

Erin Holmes

Posts: 6580

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

Once I started posting travel notices advertising myself for nudes, pretty much instant. Now that I shoot nearly only clothed, the number of paid offers is about zero lol

Jul 09 13 11:51 am Link

Model

Vi Synster

Posts: 284

Milledgeville, Georgia, US

1) It depends on what you have ticked off. If you have lingerie ticked off (and your comfortable with it), I've noticed photographers flock to you like bees to honey (same deal with nudes or partial nudes)
2) Depends on the quality of photos in your port
3) Do you respond to the people who write "comment for comment"? If anything, it helps get your port more traffic
4) Sometimes tattoos (or other body modifications) can influence how quickly people write to you

Don't let height/weight discourage you. A lot of photographers will shoot any height/weight smile

Jul 09 13 01:18 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 27527

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I had offers for shoots within a few days. They weren't necessarily ones I wanted though.


I didnt start charging for several years, and generally any offers I got for paid work before then weren't for shoots I was interested in being a part of, even for money.

Jul 09 13 07:18 pm Link

Photographer

Chronos Creations

Posts: 353

Benidorm, Valencia, Spain

I've never received paid work from MM, but I use this site for practicing new ideas so that people who aren't models can pay me for it.

Jul 09 13 07:29 pm Link

Model

Snuff Elles

Posts: 593

ADGER, Alabama, US

I received messages almost immediately it was quite a nice way to kick off being on MM as I wasn't sure how many people in my area would be using it.

Jul 09 13 09:38 pm Link

Model

_bri_

Posts: 290

Doylestown, Pennsylvania, US

I made my account back in 2011, barley knowing what I was doing. I remember getting a few messages, but I had no idea how to respond to them (as in, what to do when setting up, etc). I just signed up for the site, not expecting to actually *do* anything right away. So I didn't log in for maybe over a year and started using it again last year. I got a few messages again after being active. Some of them were probably scams, but I know I got photo shoot offers, but not necessarily paid work offers that were legitimate...but it's not like I can remember.
It does help to be more active in the forums, comment and list others' pictures, etc. I think my profile is viewed/found often because I tend to log in every day.

Jul 10 13 03:43 pm Link

Model

Ag 47

Posts: 605

San Francisco, California, US

I received so many messages/offers within my first few weeks of being on MM that it was hard to keep up with.

I'm sure many others have had a similar experience.

Jul 10 13 11:19 pm Link

Photographer

Images by MR

Posts: 8250

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Call Me Caitlin wrote:
I received so many messages/offers within my first few weeks of being on MM that it was hard to keep up with.

That's because you shoot nudes & are open to TF.

Jul 10 13 11:26 pm Link

Model

Paige Morgan

Posts: 4058

New York, New York, US

There were offers after about 3 or so days, but it took a few weeks for the stuff I actually wanted to move toward started to pop up.

Jul 10 13 11:29 pm Link

Model

no-one

Posts: 95

London, England, United Kingdom

Everytime you set up a new profile... iv'e had tons , you tend to to get billions of
offer's .

kinda good if you need the work !smile

Jul 11 13 06:33 am Link

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Model

Koryn

Posts: 37145

Boston, Massachusetts, US

The first year, I got a lot of offers for trade nudes that would not benefit me, and a few reasonable ones. I didn't get paid work for closer to two years.

Jul 11 13 06:46 am Link

Model

Love_mya

Posts: 277

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Yeah, i signed up back in late 2011 but it took me like 3 weeks to actually put a photo up that was worth anything, and i was getting offers for shoots that was out of my requirements such as fashion shoots where i was not the right height for in their casting etc..

and some told me my portfolio of photos were awesome when i only had like a few camera phone shots up!

Edit} cos i was comfortable shooting nudes and had ticked it, i did get alot of offers for it, not always the best types, but i decided the best way to get more paid work  was to put my own travel notice up and go find it myself.. and its taken me about 1year to fully make a name for myself... or get myself off the ground!..

Jul 11 13 07:13 am Link

Model

no-one

Posts: 95

London, England, United Kingdom

Images by MR wrote:
If the model is only 5' 2" and doesn't shoot nudes it's unlikely they would ever receive offers for paid work.

Just my thoughts ~ MR

maybe not/... but i don't think she asked that anyway....

she's super pretty.. so im sure she'll still
get tons of shoot offers smile

Jul 11 13 07:15 am Link

Photographer

Yan Tan Tethera

Posts: 4184

Biggleswade, England, United Kingdom

SayCheeZ!  wrote:

Images by MR wrote:
If the model is only 5' 2" and doesn't shoot nudes it's unlikely they would ever receive offers for paid work.

Just my thoughts ~ MR

Geez, not this bullshit again.

I know MANY small models that get work on a continuing basis, through licensed and legitimate agencies without gettin' naked.


So let's throw this ' Geez not this bullshit again ' back at you.

Are these MANY small models getting work on a continuing basis earning say $20,000 a year. Or more . Cos I'm really happy for them if they are.

But I actually doubt that.

But feel free to tell me I'm wrong.

Start quantifying how MANY models you're talking about.

And an average income.

Or even a median income.

Or any income !!

Jul 11 13 12:31 pm Link

Photographer

Yan Tan Tethera

Posts: 4184

Biggleswade, England, United Kingdom

Once again the quote function doesn't work.

No wonder everyone in the UK has gone over to Purpleport.

Jul 11 13 12:34 pm Link

Photographer

SayCheeZ!

Posts: 18369

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Yan Tan Tethera wrote:
Are these MANY small models getting work on a continuing basis earning say $20,000 a year. Or more . Cos I'm really happy for them if they are.

But I actually doubt that.

But feel free to tell me I'm wrong.

Start quantifying how MANY models you're talking about.

And an average income.

Or even a median income.

Or any income !!

I've stated and proved the same thing many times before.
Here's a few exerpts to save me from typing it all over again, although some of the info is now dated.

Smaller models are used OFTEN in advertisements for hotels, restaurants, furniture companies, airlines, cars, and other stuff because they make the product they are with appear larger, roomier, and more comfortable.

My "ex-significant other" is less than 5' tall and has appeared in many print ads for casinos, furniture, and recently on a commercial for a payday loan company.  When she left Las Vegas she picked up right where she left off through an agent in Seattle.

One of the most successful models that I know easily made a 6 figure income every year and was featured on one of the most popular commercials ever produced for a casino here in Las Vegas.  Not only is she short, but she's also in her 40's and probably doesn't fill out an A cup.

The two people mentioned above are only a fraction of the smaller size models that I've met that make a substantial income from modeling THROUGH AN AGENCY.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6578/kimmoneytreesmallvd4.jpg

4'10"
(she had to stand on a box in that commercial).

Icon Models and Talent http://www.iconlv.com

* 5'5" http://www.iconlv.com/cgi/model_detail.cgi?id=32
* 5'4" http://www.iconlv.com/cgi/model_detail.cgi?id=168
* 5'3" http://www.iconlv.com/cgi/model_detail.cgi?id=198
*

Jul 11 13 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

Jonasyphoto

Posts: 3

San Francisco, California, US

I never did commissioned work with anyone unless I knew him or her for a while. 

That's why we do test shootings.

Jul 12 13 02:48 pm Link

Photographer

Jason Haven

Posts: 38378

Washington, District of Columbia, US

It's been almost 8 years and I still haven't been paid. wink

Jul 12 13 02:50 pm Link

Model

Shihan Sky

Posts: 40

Los Angeles, California, US

None so far. You do the math.

Jul 12 13 04:18 pm Link

Model

Amber Dawn - Colorado

Posts: 6252

Castle Rock, Colorado, US

First day I got messages

Jul 12 13 10:10 pm Link

Model

Jay Dezelic

Posts: 4877

Seattle, Washington, US

Shihan Sky wrote:
None so far. You do the math.

I've had a portfolio here for seven years and never had an unsolicited request to do a serious shoot. Posting or responding to relevant casting calls work great though.

There's just not much demand for old guys like us. smile

You, at least, have a commercially usable look.

Jul 13 13 12:23 am Link

Model

Sierra McKenzie

Posts: 711

Seattle, Washington, US

Immediately.

I was also an 18 year old willing to shoot nude though.

Jul 13 13 11:55 am Link

Photographer

F-1 Photo

Posts: 1103

New York, New York, US

I've been on here for over 8 years and I'm still waiting!

Jul 13 13 12:03 pm Link