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How not to hire a Flake?
I am looking for tips when going through a modeling profile and questions asked and answered on what would be giveaways for models that have good chance on flaking on you. Don't worry models: I have the counterpart questions on working with a photographer. Jul 12 13 08:57 am Link if they say something like "I LOVE YOUR WORK  xxxooo ToxicGirl" i'd suggest running away from the stalker. lol.Jul 12 13 09:33 am Link +1 I am in love with your work. I can't wait to work with you. Then its a no show. Lies lies lies! Jul 12 13 09:39 am Link Paul Grofton wrote: find people that truly love your work. let them know they are important. communicate/confirm the day before the shoot. Jul 12 13 10:05 am Link L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: Done that and she still was a no show. Jul 12 13 10:10 am Link Paul Grofton wrote: it happens....don't sweat it....just move on. Jul 12 13 10:12 am Link There are no "fool proof" ways to read strangers. Many of these young ladies don't have lots of work experience, scared, just a hobby for them, or just don't like your work. Some have a hard time saying no because they don't want you angry at them or asking them why. I am not saying they are all good reasons at all. I would not waste time trying to understand women my age let alone women half my age....Just play the numbers. Someone will bite eventually. Jul 12 13 10:20 am Link also i think that there is often someone in the background (boyfriend, husband, relative, friends) influencing their behavior. which may explain some (but not all. lol) of the irrational things that happen. think about wormtongue in LOTR. i really think that there are a lot of wormtongues in the world. some of them do shift work and if they get called in at the restaurant may not have a choice but to take the money. but i certainly appreciate the ones who are willing to let me know when that happens vs. no-showing. Marin Photography NYC wrote: Jul 12 13 10:24 am Link GreatMomentsPhotography wrote: + I have absolutely no idea why this is true, but it's happened to me again and again. Jul 12 13 10:34 am Link Generally speaking, the younger a model is, the more likely they are to flake. It's just one factor, but an important one. Jul 12 13 10:35 am Link Hmmmmmm. I guess if they never credit or mention the photographer from the images in their port. Also if they are bad at communicating and have to be reminded to answer the e-mails Good chance she will flake Jul 12 13 10:51 am Link The better you pay them, the less likely they are to flake...although to be honest even this is not a guarantee... Jul 12 13 10:56 am Link One of the criteria I look for is the quality of the photos, how pretty the models are and who shot them. Girls that watched ATM or are into "Promotions"= Kelloggs infected with Y. Pestis Boyfriend with a camera? Flake Self shot ...50/50 Competent Photographer.. good candidate Drop dead beautiful models (9-10 rating scale) rarely flake. Average looking girls...count on it or at a minimum, making outrageous demands. At least that's the way it works around here. Jul 12 13 11:06 am Link My Golden Rule: No shoot unless I speak to them on the phone before the shoot. I don't have girls flake on the day of the shoot ( because they drop out before then. ) If they return email in a consistent way, will give you their number and speak on the phone ( after you've developed some connection via email.) You probably shouldn't have many drop out the day of the shoot. Every week I contact at least two girls who respond that they'd love to do a shoot-- and then I basically never hear from them again. Jul 12 13 11:20 am Link Grin Without a Cat wrote: In the last five years, I've had way more models flake for paid shoots than for test shoots. I'd say the ratio is probably 5-1 or higher. Paying a model most certainly does not mean they will arrive on time, if at all. However, hiring one from an agency means they have some accountability to that agency if they flake so they have a higher, vested interest in showing up on time if you book through an agency. Jul 12 13 11:20 am Link It's more art than science. For me, I just get a feeling, when I do I hire a backup. If it were strictly empirical, I'd say checking references is the best thing one can do to minimize hiring flakes. Jul 12 13 11:25 am Link BullS#$t!!! There is no magic formula that lets you detect flakes Jul 12 13 11:41 am Link Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote: Then why is it that some people can do hundreds of shoots and have less than a 1% flake rate and others can do 20 shoots and have 10 flakes. I can assure you, it's not coincidence. Jul 12 13 01:14 pm Link Shot By Adam wrote: brooklyn is talking about flake detection, not flake prevention. Jul 12 13 01:28 pm Link |
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