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Obesity and Overweight
I find these numbers to be remarkable. Almost 70% of adults over 20 are overweight, including 35% of the adult population that are obese. I wonder what qualifies as morbidly obese and what that percentage might be? This is from CDC: ----- Data are for the U.S. Adults Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 35.1% (2011-2012) Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are overweight, including obesity: 69.0% (2011-2012) Children and adolescents Percent of adolescents age 12-19 years who are obese: 18.4% (2009-2010) Percent of children age 6-11 years who are obese: 18.0% (2009-2010) Percent of children age 2-5 years who are obese: 12.1% (2009-2010) http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm ----- This is a serious problem for the people involved. This is a serious problem for all of us as a nation. I think most people have no understanding at all about nutrition and eating healthy, or the causes and effects of being overweight and obese. The situation now is hugely different from as recently as the 60's and 70's. All we have to do is look at photos and magazines from previous decades. Jul 08 14 05:57 pm Link There's a lot of wiggle room, though, when it comes to those numbers. At 5'9" 180, I am overweight by the CDC's standards:   though I agree... obesity is a significant issue. Jul 08 14 06:00 pm Link -JAY- wrote: Yes, I can see that. Jul 08 14 06:06 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: Right, I'm 11 lbs from the borderline... but there's a lot of people in the "overweight" category that should not be considered overweight by the standards, and those in the "healthy weight" that aren't healthy. My buddy fails the "fat test" every month in the Army... dude is fit as a fiddle, ripped like jesus, but certain measurements and BMI say he's fat due to muscle:fat ratio and body shape. Jul 08 14 06:18 pm Link I'm "morbidly obese". I'm about 6'2, and weigh the last I checked, about 260 pounds. I'm far more active than most people I know. Even the skinny ones that look "in shape." Jul 08 14 06:21 pm Link I agree that 150 looks too low for you. Another reason the CDC standards are broad and sloppy is because they don't distinguish for gender, ethnicity, etc., and they are measuring populations rather than individuals. Jul 08 14 06:21 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: And when I joined the army at 125, I was still in the "healthy" weight for my size... that was thinner compared to my thin look above as the thin looks to the other... Jul 08 14 06:23 pm Link -JAY- wrote: I am a resistance training athlete, and in excellent physical condition, but the last time I had a check up, I was warned about "staying aware of my weight" and that I am borderline overweight for my height by some BMI charts. Then, 30 minutes later, as the doctor was trying to give me a pelvic exam, she complained that it was hard to feel my uterus and ovaries, because the musculature in my lower abs was so developed. Jul 08 14 06:24 pm Link Koryn wrote: Another good point. You don't really qualify as "average." Jul 08 14 06:26 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: Yet by the standards that say 69% of america is overweight, they're still overweight. That 69% is a massive shade of gray. Jul 08 14 06:29 pm Link -JAY- wrote: At 125, you probably look sick, or like war refugee. Jul 08 14 06:30 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: I was definitely thin, but god I felt great. Skateboarded for hours on end, (nothing but squats - i had an amazing butt) Jul 08 14 06:31 pm Link -JAY- wrote: After we exempt a few people like you and Koryn, it seems the rest of us at large will statistically fit a bell shaped curve to the point of making those CDC numbers pretty accurate. Jul 08 14 06:33 pm Link Here's the definition: Morbid obesity is a medical term describing people who have a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 40, or of 35 to 40 with significant medical problems caused by or made worse by their weight. BMI of 40 amounts to approximately 100 pounds above ideal weight. Schlake wrote: I'm sorry, but you don't qualify for being morbidly obese Jul 08 14 06:38 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: The problem is, a lot of medical professionals don't necessarily make it a point to ask people about their lifestyle habits, before assuming the person needs to lose 10 pounds. Jul 08 14 06:38 pm Link Koryn wrote: We should know these things better ourselves, as part of our general education growing up. Jul 08 14 06:45 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: I find this image amusing in a strange sort of way. When we were growing up it was play outside from sun-up to dark (with a short break for lunch). T.V. was for Sunday nights IIRC (Wonderful World of Disney). Jul 08 14 07:31 pm Link I've been doing a lot of reading about how the western diet has changed and am convinced that is a big part of the problem. I also find it interesting that we've become so used to seeing overweight people that height/weight proportionate people are often viewed as being skinny, when in fact they are appropriate, not skinny. Jul 08 14 07:38 pm Link Abbitt Photography wrote: Yeppers. Hue is 4' 8" and weighs in at a walloping 90 lbs. Her family thinks I starve her. Her M.D. says she is doing great. Jul 08 14 07:43 pm Link I'm not fat, just REAL short for my weight. I think I would probably be the ideal weight if I was around 11' 9"  went to basic training at ~ 183-185, came home from Southeast Asia ~3 years later about 157-160 Jul 08 14 09:33 pm Link Abbitt Photography wrote: Absolutely! The skinny hate is disgusting(from a skinny person) b/c people assume it's okay. As if telling me to eat something is any different than telling a big girl to put her cheeseburger down... But this is America and ignorance is abundant. Jul 08 14 10:08 pm Link 10 lbs less than when I was swimming competitively in HS. Been as low as 10 lbs lower, and 35lbs higher as I am now. Though younger then, that 35 would reek havoc on my back. Jul 08 14 10:59 pm Link  Jul 08 14 11:25 pm Link Doing a fair amount of weight training, I never pass the BMI part of the physical . . . BUT, my BF% is always a lot lower than what the norm is for my height and age . . . if we're just going by weight stats, at 6' and 210, I sound like a short, fat, old guy . . . in reality, I'm just a short, old, muscular guy . . .  SOS Jul 09 14 05:30 am Link I'm curious if muscle mass compared to same amount of fat in volume weigh the same? I'm 6' and 205 and doc wants me down to below 185. Some people think I look thin (Lots of striped shirts I guess?). It's a struggle. Looking around at local bus stops we have a lot of seriously fat kids here. The soccer park has some lean ones, but the adjacent park (picnickers) have the obese ones along with their obese parents. My doc thinks a much shorter life expectancy is going to be a big issue with current generations due to weight and sugar/fats/carbs/less exercise in their lives. He's got quite a few overweight diabetic 7 year olds in his practice. He mistakenly said "Oh my" (regarding her weight) when he walked in on one overweight teenager and the also overweight mom snapped at him for doing it in front of her. I know a few 450 pounders who went for stomach bypasses. Only one kept the weight down (Diet and exercise post-op.) and the others are slowly getting it back. Carbonated drinks are partly the blame as it might be blowing their guts up like a second stomach, but they can't part with them. One may need some skin removal too, but she is gaining again so who knows. Jul 09 14 07:46 am Link You can be overweight, and even obese (according to the numbers) and be healthy. I'm 5'9" and 162 pounds, but I'm likely one of the most unhealthy people I know. One day, I'll go get a physical so a doctor can tell me just how unhealthy I am. Jul 09 14 09:49 am Link Speaking of healthy foods to lose weight, what's the scoop on all natural nonfat greek strained yogurt? (Fage). I don't know anything about this. I just bought a 48oz bucket of it at Costco. I was thinking it might be a substitute for low-fat cottage cheese as a dairy product, but I don't know. 1C = 130 calories, 0g Fat, 9g Carb, 23g Protein GOOD POINTS Very high in protein Nonfat High in calcium Very high in phosphorus Very high in riboflavin Very high in selenium Very high in vitamin B6 Very high in vitamin B12 The label says I have 5 days to eat this from the time I open it, LOL. 3 pounds of yogurt. Can I throw it in the freezer?  It's natural, thick and creamy, unsweetened. I just tried 1/2C of Fage yogurt with 1/2C fresh sweet strawberries. I like it. Is this particularly a good and nutritional diet food, or is it like eating a scoop of whey protein powder? Might be good on salads. What are other delicious uses? Greek food, I guess. *scratches head Jul 09 14 04:33 pm Link I don't agree with BMI figures for men. Jul 09 14 04:50 pm Link http://www.browneyedbaker.com/2013/09/2 … ce-recipe/ http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/baby … ecipe.html Two great tasting sauces. Can be used for many things. and, one bonus link just for good measure - http://www.oikosyogurt.com/greek-yogurt … -dressing/ ETA: Greek yogurt is really the same as the American stuff. It is just strained to eliminate excess liquids, salts, etc. Easy to do. Jul 09 14 04:50 pm Link I'm 6'1" and I'm 1 pound overweight. lol Seriously, I want to lose weight and be athletic again. Even at my age. I need to figure out what to cook and eat and some exercises too. I was always thin and I want to get back to that. Too thin for some people.  Jul 09 14 04:52 pm Link BMI is pure bullshit I'm 5'9 162 lbs and at my age(45)I'm considered overweight,yet I'm ripped to shreds(bf% under 10 probably close to 8) They need to come up with a better system Maybe hight/weight/body fat %..and the good ole eye test puttig the guy with the 6 pack in the same category as the beer belly dude is just assenine Jul 09 14 05:49 pm Link Chris Rifkin wrote: Your BMI and your weight is perfectly in the "normal" range for your height, which is getting rare. For most male adults, your BMI is an ideal to aspire to. Jul 09 14 05:52 pm Link 
Model Posts: 6638 MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica It's interesting to see how, over the years, so many people now seem to view thin as "sickly and unhealthy" and overweight as "healthy." I even see it here in this thread. I am within 10 pounds of my weight at age 18, and I am going to be 50 next month. I can't tell you how many times people have asked me if I have lost weight since the last time they saw me. No... because so many people are getting heavier and I am staying the same, it makes me look thinner. Jay and I were watching an old episode of Gilligan's Island the other night, and I said "remember how Ginger was considered 'voluptuous' back then? Today her picture would be splashed across the gossip mags saying that she was anorexic."  People like to get caught up poking holes in BMI, but the fact is that people are getting heavier and diabetes (among other issues) will be an epidemic in our future. Jul 09 14 05:53 pm Link The label "obese" is crap because bmi is essentially crap because it doesn't factor in composition. It's a general guide line that is used when better measurement options are not available. Body fat percentage is a better indicator as are things such as cardiac efficiency, bone density etc etc. Having said this, being under weight has just as many risks as being over weight. A bmi UNDER 18 can bring with it a plethora of long term healthy problems. Jul 09 14 06:02 pm Link Isis22 wrote: BMI was invented by an actuary of a life insurance company. Jul 09 14 06:06 pm Link There are many, possibly dozens of ways to calculate how much one should way. The problem, with individual differences each of these methods take time and some effort. Except one. the BMI tables. BMI, doesn't take into account relative leg length to torso, bone density, muscular development etc etc etc. As a result, when Arnold was preaching fitness, his BMI would have put him off the chart- at least level 2 obese. I used to work in this field- my weight about 240, resting pulse 32 bpm body fat about 15% = BMI measurement level 2 0bese. almost any of the other methods, showed me in the top 10 percentile of fitness. The experts know BMI is a crock- the measurement ultimately depends on the ratio of height to weight- a method that was thrown out about 50 years ago because it did not take the factors I mentioned earlier into account. Someone came up with the BMI which added a couple of factors, but which still measures the same ration and came up with the same faulty answers. There is a method of measuring a waist measurement - which actually produces results slightly more reliable than BMI I still correspond with a few experts in the field. They will admit that BMI is a faulty tool. Their problem- they cant find a quick and convenient method to fill in a check mark on a form. Until they find something quick and easy- this discussion will go on, and people will pay extra for life insurance, or worse be denied it. My advice, don't lose sleep over BMI, If you want some peace of mind- get measurements of body fat, blood pressure, resting pulse, flexibility. If those come out ok-- chances are you can ignore BMI Jul 09 14 06:07 pm Link MoRina wrote: Yeppers. MoRina wrote: MoRina wrote: Well because it's not a good indicator of anything really. MoRina wrote: I think diabetes (among other things) are already at epidemic levels. The question is, how do we address that? We have created a society where both people have to work and, after taking care of the kids and other stuff, there is precious little time to cook a good meal (not that most people would even recognize a good meal if it hit them in the face). We are constantly bombarded (practically from birth) with adverts and signs for cheap, fast, junk food. Pavlov's dog anyone? The icing on the cake is that we serve portions for one person that would quite happily feed a family of three in Europe. If our plate is not completely loaded, we feel cheated! Jul 09 14 06:15 pm Link BMI is complete shit. They tried, but stopped just short of finding a way to calculate millions of peoples sizes accurately. Overweight and obesity is definitely a HUGE problem but they definitely dont have accurate stats on it by relying on BMI My "normal" weight could range anywhere from 101-136 "for my height. Nearly 140 pounds of fat on my frame would be…smothering. Muscle would be incredibly ripped. Somewhere in between would not necessarily be "fat" but it wouldnt look amazing either. Jul 09 14 06:18 pm Link Regardless of BMI or whatever measurement you prefer to use, the weight of many people around us is lunging higher at an alarming rate. I think health issues associated with grossly unhealthy eating habits is a ticking time bomb for many of us. All we have to do is go out in public and look around to see that obesity is a big problem for many people. It's the environment in which we now live. Proper weight is an important contributor to good health. Jul 09 14 06:28 pm Link scrymettet wrote: Figures a bean counter came up with this. Jul 09 14 06:28 pm Link |
