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Photographer

Shot By Adam

Posts: 8095

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Burle-Skit Art Perform wrote:
Ah, I had my first real no show two weekends ago.

I really didn't think she would show up initially.  I always do my 10:00 am "go or no go" confirmation before my noon time start.  But she texted me shortly before 10:00 am, asking if we were still on.  Of course, I said yes.  She and her escort were driving in from a nearby college town.  She checked in a few times about her progress.

This should have been your first indication of an epic failure.

https://media.giphy.com/media/zze8totpIe3mM/giphy.gif

Feb 04 15 12:32 pm Link

Photographer

Nor-Cal Photography

Posts: 3720

Walnut Creek, California, US

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
I don't have no shows.

If I don't hear back from them 48 hours before the shoot, I cancel it.

I don't have time to f#$% around with people who don't respect me and my work

+1 with a twist and without 100%.

After a few flakes, I decided to contact the model either via phone or e-mail the day before to confirm.  No response - the shoot is cancelled.  VERY occasionally the model confirms but still flakes, but it is quite rare.

smile

Feb 04 15 12:55 pm Link

Photographer

Natural Means

Posts: 936

Yamba, New South Wales, Australia

Maybe I've been doing this too long, but even more irritating than the flakes is the ones that postpone with a plausible reason, saying they hope that doesn't mean we can't work together in the future, lso sorry, yadda yadda yadda, then ....crickets (punctuated with occasional tumbleweed).

What's that all about???

Feb 05 15 12:56 am Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

Play golf.

Feb 05 15 01:22 am Link

Photographer

Pacific NW Photography

Posts: 185

Redmond, Washington, US

well said.

Doesn't mean it won't happen again, but it does mean that you work on techniques to minimize. I have flakes from time to time as well. Both paid and unpaid. I agree with the assessment that traveling models tend to be a good place to look for reliable talented ladies to work with. But there are also reliable models where you live. The trick is to find them. Can't say I have learned how to spot them, but I can say that there are a few things to minimize your experience with flakes.

Get her phone number and talk on the phone about the shoot
Talk about what you are planning to shoot and answer any questions she has about the shoot.
Tell her when she can expect images from the shoot (I usually do same day or within a day or so)
Ask her how she will be getting to your location

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
When something goes wrong intelligent people learn from what THEY did wrong and how to avoid it in the future.

Stupid people blame someone/something else for the circumstance.

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Feb 06 15 05:59 am Link

Photographer

theBeachStrober

Posts: 885

Robertsdale, Alabama, US

I rant and rave in a message board with random people I don't know that have absolutely no control over the situation. I also make passive aggressive remarks on FB hoping the said model will see the status update when her/his friends like the post. I then send several texts to said model telling them how they will never get work in the industry because they didn't work with me.

Not really.

Feb 06 15 06:37 am Link

Model

CaraH

Posts: 67

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I always try to be professional and I find good, clear, timely communication is essential in keeping a shoot on track.

I've NEVER flaked on projects I have confirmed. Unfortunately, I've twice had shoots cancelled over the last year and both were due to poor communication (where, despite requests for more information days earlier, I only received/saw the shoot details 2-4 hours before the shoots were to take place, leaving me insufficient time to go an pick up the wardrobe and arrive on time at the shoot location). With my typical travel time being 1-1.5 hours, and not having data on my phone, I need to know shoot details early enough to prepare. This is why I always confirm the details (location, time, wardrobe) a day or two in advance, and confirm the shoot is still on the night before. Phone calls/ texts are then used to convey any updates on the day of the shoot.

*I find professionals, if they need do to cancel, will do their best to arrange a replacement- this happened with a MUA once. She couldn't make it and SHE found her replacement, which is the professional thing to do- rather than leaving everyone hanging*

Feb 06 15 05:01 pm Link

Model

CaraH

Posts: 67

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

JohnEnger wrote:

+1

Confirmation is key. Depending on how far in advance I book, I ask for confirmation 1 month in advance, then 1 week, and I call or text the day before the shoot. No answer or no confirmations in return, no shoot.


J.

Agree!

Feb 06 15 05:06 pm Link

Photographer

Varton

Posts: 2755

New York, New York, US

big_smile
When you don't hear back from them the day before, you will never hear from them again big_smile

Feb 06 15 05:49 pm Link

Photographer

Herman Surkis

Posts: 10856

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

I posted this in the model forum, simply to compensate for all the threads dealing with model flakes.

Booked 6 models over 2 days.

They all showed and were on time (within 10 minutes).

If I can do it, so can most of you.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/940420

Any comments I would make here have already been made in the linked thread.

Feb 07 15 06:24 pm Link

Photographer

robert b mitchell

Posts: 2218

Surrey, British Columbia, Canada

I try to get models now who can do their own makeup. I have had to cancel some shots at the last moment cause the models have pulled out making me look bad cancelling the MUA.

I try to be super fussy now and have another model as a backup too if I really want to do a certain shoot. If I do not hear from the model a couple of days before the shoot I fire a shot across their bow saying I am going to cancel the shoot. No response...no shoot. I have been burned a couple of times from "deadbeats and teasers".

Feb 07 15 06:35 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Farrell

Posts: 13408

Nashville, Tennessee, US

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
I don't have no shows.

If I don't hear back from them 48 hours before the shoot, I cancel it.


I don't have time to fuck around with people who don't respect me and my work

This. Proper follow up beforehand *usually* eliminates waiting around for someone who won't show.

Feb 08 15 07:31 am Link

Photographer

Mark Reeder

Posts: 627

Huntsville, Ontario, Canada

BlueMoonPics wrote:
A few months ago I had a model cancel on me last minute.
I had a MUA but didn't want to cancel on her.

So I shot my MUA...
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140613/07/539b08d8e07bf_m.jpg

I contact the models the day before the shoot to confirm the shoot.  If they don't answer then I cancel the shoot.

+1

Got to make the most out of every situation.

Feb 08 15 10:01 am Link