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I can see how drones can get some pretty aerial photos. But in today's society I believe more than not they will be used for invasion of privacy. I know I know if I am nude sunbathing in my back yard and have 10' tall privacy fences I shouldn't have a reasonable expectation to privacy right? wrong. Its a tool that will be just too tempting for the many not so moral shooters. Stalkers and the nosy neighbors will love these things. Definitely if a camera is attached to them the pilot should have to get a permit and every time they fly apply for a flight pattern. That way if they invade someones privacy its fair game to shoot it down. Without a camera pilots have to keep line of site with them making them less invasive to peoples privacy and more of a friendly hobby. Sep 20 14 07:52 am Link Caitin Bre wrote: I promise not to fly over your backyard. I have more than enough nude models that I can shoot nude closeup already. Sep 20 14 07:57 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: What if a drone showed up while you were shooting and started shooting photos of there own over your shoulder? Sep 20 14 08:04 am Link Caitin Bre wrote: I don't anticipate this happening. One time when I was shooting a nude model in the Arizona desert the guys behind us who were practicing shooting their sniper rifles started shooting us with their cellphones. They weren't real close. We didn't worry about them and kept shooting. Sep 20 14 08:14 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: The escort would be the drone. Maybe even armed and dangerous. Oh look here is a photo of Jer pissing on sagebrush during our shoot. Escort owns the copyright to that classic moment. Sep 20 14 08:19 am Link Caitin Bre wrote: I've never seen drones flying near me. The only drone I've seen is the one that I have. Sep 20 14 08:23 am Link Learn to fly on a Phantom2 and buy a Cinestar 6 or 8 for the real deal. I love the Cinestar worth every penny. Sep 20 14 08:33 am Link I would be afraid of putting expensive camera gear on a expensive drone and flying around. A lot of people are very against the Idea of drones with cameras. Even the park systems are against them. Many parks will confiscate and fine you. Like the grand canyon for example. Sep 20 14 10:16 am Link My advice is: don't Not if you intend to use it to make money. For a hobby, sure. But if you have little or no experience, and havent taken the time to consider what a 3-5lb object with multiple spinning blades can do to people, pets, property, plants, or cars... then just don't. What I do is hire an experienced drone crew, usually 2 guys, one to fly, and one to operate the camera, and then I direct the video from a monitor. That keeps it safe, affordable, and limits my liablity for damage. It's their drone, and they are the pilots. They have the right to refuse to fly for any reason they deem unsafe or that may damage their drone, or whatever. Sep 20 14 12:08 pm Link I want to by a quad some day as I simply just want one For most practical applications I find a 25 foot aluminum painter pole to do more than well enough. I usually dont even need all that it offers. You get past 20ft and the property or other topic just starts to get all tine weenie and rounded from distortion anyway. It takes very little set up time and so far nobody has tried to shoot my stick. If they did and we all somehow survived what would be a heated conflict, I would make it my next mission see to it that person never had gun rights again. I have used a super tall light stand to raise a dslr into that air before but I got to tell you all the wibbly wobbly with my rig on top is enough to scare the stuff out of you. Tethering to make adjustments of the shot makes it feel like a never ending process. I got a GoPro so I could avoid those situations. Folks who think aerial shots are about them has watched way to many cop shows. Sep 20 14 01:05 pm Link I thought these remotely operated helicopters/quad copters were classified by the FAA as "model aircraft". Generally, it's legal to fly these for recreational use as long as you follow the FAA rules. These rules include: keep the aircraft within the visual sight of the operator, stay 5 miles from airports, stay under 400 feet, follow local laws, don't interfere with manned airplanes, and do not fly model aircraft for payment or commercial purposes. If you are using your model aircraft to take photos, you may not receive payment for, or sell those photos. If you are selling the photos, then you need a commercial license from the FAA. This can be an issue, as I am under the impression that they are not currently granting these licenses. Many people claim otherwise. Some state that this is a "gray area" in the law. The FAA strongly disagrees and maintains that commercial use of any aircraft, small or large, manned or unmanned, above or below 500', requires a commercial license. Sep 20 14 05:59 pm Link The device I am researching is programmed NOT to operate 5 miles from a military base, airport or national park. It just won't fly. Seems like a pretty simple solution. Sep 20 14 07:41 pm Link Jayme Blaschke wrote: I believe the Phantom 2 Vision classes as a drone then. It has software on it that integrates with the GPS and maps to allow programming in a flight plan and letting the machine control itself. Sep 21 14 08:44 am Link Thanks WR, I agree, that's why I specifically asked about Drones. I was very impressed with the videos I saw with the Gimbal system, it is what peaked my interest. Sep 21 14 09:01 am Link One thing about the Phantoms is that they are quite fragile. Something to be aware of. Also the propellers are extremely dangerous. I have no doubt that the carbon fiber propellers would amputate a finger. Sep 21 14 07:48 pm Link WR Photographics wrote: They sell propeller guards. Sep 21 14 09:45 pm Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: Have a look at one of the machines with the guards in place some time. Sep 22 14 07:05 am Link I'd like to be able to remove the camera from the Phantom to learn to fly it without it but I've been told that isn't an option. Sep 22 14 08:53 am Link WR Photographics wrote: I know what it looks like. Sep 22 14 08:55 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: Apparently you don't if you think they would keep a finger from a propeller. Sep 22 14 09:03 am Link Sulp oiloftrop wrote: Don't worry about it. They are no more difficult to fly with the camera on as off. I suspect on the Vision 2, removing the camera and gimbal wouldn't be all that difficult, I don't see why a person would want to do it though. Sep 22 14 09:05 am Link Just so I don't break the camera if it crashes. Sep 22 14 09:07 am Link WR Photographics wrote: As long as I don't lower the finger into the propeller. The greatest risk is on the side. Sep 22 14 09:10 am Link dd photography wrote: For the same reason you don't use the n-word or f*g to denote a member of the LGBT community. It has a negative connotation that is unhelpful long term. Sep 22 14 09:15 am Link Sulp oiloftrop wrote: You'll have more to worry about than that if you get a crash. As long as you stay away from buildings, power lines and the like and keep air under the thing, it's almost impossible to crash a Phantom. Sep 22 14 09:23 am Link |