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Photographer

Kendra Paige

Posts: 145

Wellington, Florida, US

I am shooting an editorial in-studio later this month, and am looking to invest in a gray muslin backdrop. I have only worked with muslin a handful of times, so I am reluctant to invest $450 in my first one, and am looking for any alternative suggestions to the Eleanor backdrop by Seamless Photo:
http://seamlessphoto.com/us/eleanor-mus … -soto.html

My ideal budget is in the $200 range for 10x20, suggestions are very much appreciated! I can be swayed into investing in the Eleanor backdrop, but am interested in hearing other opinions first. Thank you!

May 02 15 08:43 pm Link

Photographer

Shot By Adam

Posts: 8093

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Kendra Paige wrote:
I am shooting an editorial in-studio later this month, and am looking to invest in a gray muslin backdrop. I have only worked with muslin a handful of times, so I am reluctant to invest $450 in my first one, and am looking for any alternative suggestions to the Eleanor backdrop by Seamless Photo:
http://seamlessphoto.com/us/eleanor-mus … -soto.html

My ideal budget is in the $200 range for 10x20, suggestions are very much appreciated! I can be swayed into investing in the Eleanor backdrop, but am interested in hearing other opinions first. Thank you!

There are MANY on Amazon for a fraction of the price you are looking at. Also look at CowboyStudio.com. They have a lot of them at an affordable price.

May 02 15 09:32 pm Link

Photographer

Kendra Paige

Posts: 145

Wellington, Florida, US

Shot By Adam wrote:

There are MANY on Amazon for a fraction of the price you are looking at. Also look at CowboyStudio.com. They have a lot of them at an affordable price.

I've done a lot of looking at those and others listed on Amazon, but was looking for any personal recommendations, as the reviews (or lack thereof) are all over the place. A lot of the ones I've found are very wrinkled looking or look like tie-dye, rather than a more painted canvas sort of look.

May 02 15 09:49 pm Link

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MikeW

Posts: 400

Cape Canaveral, Florida, US

Kendra Paige wrote:
I am shooting an editorial in-studio later this month, and am looking to invest in a gray muslin backdrop. I have only worked with muslin a handful of times, so I am reluctant to invest $450 in my first one, and am looking for any alternative suggestions to the Eleanor backdrop by Seamless Photo:
http://seamlessphoto.com/us/eleanor-mus … -soto.html

My ideal budget is in the $200 range for 10x20, suggestions are very much appreciated! I can be swayed into investing in the Eleanor backdrop, but am interested in hearing other opinions first. Thank you!

Take a look at     Denny Manufacturing Co. They have a great variety at various price points.

I'm not sure why you are locked into muslin when it may be used only a few times. I use mostly paper.

May 02 15 09:53 pm Link

Photographer

Kendra Paige

Posts: 145

Wellington, Florida, US

MikeW wrote:

Take a look at     Denny Manufacturing Co. They have a great variety at various price points.

I'm not sure why you are locked into muslin when it may be used only a few times. I use mostly paper.

I use seamless paper and gels for the bulk of my shoots, different fabrics for others, but I'm doing a Victorian-styled editorial and would like a more eerie, slightly gothic feel to the imagery, which a nice canvas / muslin background can sometimes provide.

Thank you for recommending Denny! I had forgotten about them, definitely some potential options here.

May 02 15 09:58 pm Link

Photographer

E Thompson Photography

Posts: 719

Hyattsville, Maryland, US

Just some ideas. Have you thought about buying the Eleanor backdrop as an expense and charging it to your client? You may also look at renting a backdrop from someplace like Oliphant or Schmidli and charging the rental as an expense. Or you could paint your own.

http://www.inbedwithsue.com/2014/11/04/ … -backdrop/

May 02 15 10:32 pm Link

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AgX

Posts: 2851

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

I use and like Amvona Civichrome muslins and paid around $65 for my 10x20 grey one. You might be able to find new-old-stock in a pattern that you like. I haven't used them, but I've heard good things about Wescott muslins, at less than half the price of the one you listed.

May 03 15 06:53 am Link

Photographer

Kendra Paige

Posts: 145

Wellington, Florida, US

E Thompson Photography wrote:
Just some ideas. Have you thought about buying the Eleanor backdrop as an expense and charging it to your client? You may also look at renting a backdrop from someplace like Oliphant or Schmidli and charging the rental as an expense. Or you could paint your own.

http://www.inbedwithsue.com/2014/11/04/ … -backdrop/

Sue Bryce is amazing, thanks for that link! I'll definitely give that a try when I get my workspace setup for set design.

AgX wrote:
I use and like Amvona Civichrome muslins and paid around $65 for my 10x20 grey one. You might be able to find new-old-stock in a pattern that you like. I haven't used them, but I've heard good things about Wescott muslins, at less than half the price of the one you listed.

Thanks for the tip, and especially for mentioning Westcott! I ordered one from them that is exactly what I'm looking for, and right in my budget. Can't wait to test with it once it arrives!

May 03 15 12:23 pm Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Paint department at Home Depot  or Amazon  ---   canvas drop cloth - can be spray painted any color you want.



http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-9-f … /203432096
http://www.amazon.com/9x12-Canvas-Cotto … B001G1ET0Y
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G1ETFE

May 03 15 05:28 pm Link

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WCR3

Posts: 1414

Houston, Texas, US

Michael Bots wrote:
Paint department at Home Depot  or Amazon  ---   canvas drop cloth - can be spray painted any color you want.



http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-9-f … /203432096
http://www.amazon.com/9x12-Canvas-Cotto … B001G1ET0Y
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G1ETFE

Be careful here. I bought one from Home Depot and it had a seam right down the middle. Great for catching paint spills but worthless as a backdrop. Also, hard to find one 20' long.

May 03 15 08:20 pm Link

Photographer

E Thompson Photography

Posts: 719

Hyattsville, Maryland, US

This company sells seamless canvas in a variety of sizes.

http://www.chicagocanvas.com

May 03 15 09:54 pm Link

Photographer

MikeW

Posts: 400

Cape Canaveral, Florida, US

Kendra Paige wrote:

MikeW wrote:
Take a look at     Denny Manufacturing Co. They have a great variety at various price points.

"I'm not sure why you are locked into muslin when it may be used only a few times. I use mostly paper.

I use seamless paper and gels for the bulk of my shoots, different fabrics for others, but I'm doing a Victorian-styled editorial and would like a more eerie, slightly gothic feel to the imagery, which a nice canvas / muslin background can sometimes provide."


Rent a smoke machine

May 05 15 07:24 pm Link

Photographer

Weldphoto

Posts: 844

Charleston, South Carolina, US

E Thompson Photography wrote:
This company sells seamless canvas in a variety of sizes.

http://www.chicagocanvas.com

I've bought from them and then dyed the material with RIT. very easy and quite messy. But not expensive and you get what you want - sometimes!

May 08 15 11:47 am Link

Photographer

Dan Howell

Posts: 3556

Kerhonkson, New York, US

E Thompson Photography wrote:
This company sells seamless canvas in a variety of sizes.

http://www.chicagocanvas.com

canvas and muslin are different fabrics. The OP asked about muslin. I see on your link they also sell muslin, but this source is well known for supplying muslin for professional scenic and backdrop painters

http://www.rosebrand.com/fabric-stage-c … spx?rl=tnd

personally, I cringe looking at the cheap muslins like from cowboy studios. I don't know the ones on Amazon. I was lucky and was able to buy 5 hand painted muslins from a professional backdrop painter when they were getting out of the rental business. I was actually only buying 2 at a steal of a price and she gave me the additional 3 for free. I couldn't argue with that, but one was a textured purple that I still haven't found a use for. The two that I had intended to buy I have been able to use on fashion shoots several times. I have even been able to travel with them.

I also picked up several hand painted canvas backdrops from the same painter which are quite lovely, but are large and in some cases very heavy which preclude anything other than local travel. You might consider Backdrop Outlets computer printed backdrops like their Titanium Cloth series, especially if storage or travel is an issue.

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140819/17/53f3eab960bde_m.jpg

https://d1w5usc88actyi.cloudfront.net/styles/full/s3/photos/23903/02/22/9fa4d233a7fb509a3fb0a7961b4232cc.jpg

May 08 15 01:24 pm Link

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Jose Deida

Posts: 1293

Reading, Pennsylvania, US

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/150429/11/55411f151264e_m.jpg

Vinyl flooring flipped over and primed. It's heavy but looks great.


Plain canvas from http://www.chicagocanvas.com/ painted it myself.

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140214/15/52fea49470d4e.jpg

May 08 15 04:05 pm Link

Photographer

Dan Howell

Posts: 3556

Kerhonkson, New York, US

Jose Deida wrote:
Plain canvas from http://www.chicagocanvas.com/ painted it myself.

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140214/15/52fea49470d4e.jpg

are you sure that it is canvas? looks like muslin. canvas, especially heavier canvas, usually doesn't drape softly like you have in lower part of image. muslin does.

May 08 15 10:48 pm Link

Photographer

Jose Deida

Posts: 1293

Reading, Pennsylvania, US

Dan Howell wrote:

are you sure that it is canvas? looks like muslin. canvas, especially heavier canvas, usually doesn't drape softly like you have in lower part of image. muslin does.

The piece on the floor is muslin the BG is canvas smile

May 09 15 12:05 am Link

Artist/Painter

JJMiller

Posts: 807

Buffalo, New York, US

If you are cool with raw canvas : https://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount … n-Duck.htm

seamless and good enough for large paintings- a 10' x 18' piece is < $70.

I wouldn't recommend spray painting anything because it would stink pretty bad for a while.

May 10 15 07:02 am Link

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V-Flat Travis

Posts: 258

Capitol Heights, Maryland, US

JJMiller wrote:
If you are cool with raw canvas : https://www.jerrysartarama.com/discount … n-Duck.htm

seamless and good enough for large paintings- a 10' x 18' piece is < $70.

I wouldn't recommend spray painting anything because it would stink pretty bad for a while.

What material would you recommend for painting a 10' x18'?

May 24 15 06:09 pm Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Kendra Paige wrote:
I am shooting an editorial in-studio later this month, and am looking to invest in a gray muslin backdrop. I have only worked with muslin a handful of times, so I am reluctant to invest $450 in my first one, and am looking for any alternative suggestions to the Eleanor backdrop by Seamless Photo:
http://seamlessphoto.com/us/eleanor-mus … -soto.html

My ideal budget is in the $200 range for 10x20, suggestions are very much appreciated! I can be swayed into investing in the Eleanor backdrop, but am interested in hearing other opinions first. Thank you!

I've had nothing but good luck with this company. I haven't purchased from them in over a decade but when I first opened my studio I did tons of business with them.

http://www.backdropoutlet.com/MUSLINS/departments/1004/

May 24 15 09:19 pm Link

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Light and Lens Studio

Posts: 3450

Sisters, Oregon, US

If you want a turn-key backdrop, ready to go out of the box, then Denny's or one of the other companies that sell finished products is likely your best bet.  Expect to pay, $300 and up depending on the complexity of the painting of the background.

If you don't mind getting your hands a little dirty, you can buy raw muslin from Chicago Canvas.  It's been a few years since I bought any, but it was quite reasonably priced and comes in both 9' and 12' nominal widths.  I usually plan on 20' of length.  The muslin can be dyed in a top loader washing machine with standard fabric dye.  I did one gray and one light blue.  Then there are various techniques you can use to spray ordinary enamel (spray paint) on the dyed muslin (after it dries, of course).  You can make splotchy patterns, tie-dye patterns, or whatever direction your creative juices guide you.   I have had some of these backdrops for over 20 years now and they are still functional. 

Blank cores out of aluminum are available from B H PhotoVideo in both 9' and 12' lengths which accept expan drives so you can roll up the back drop with out getting airborne on a ladder.  If you want to take the real economy route, you can use electric metallic tubing (EMT) which is available at Lowe's or Home D for cores to wind up the muslin on.  It can get a little bit heavy to lift up to where you want to attach it.  With appropriate clamps the core with the muslin wrapped up on it can be attached to Expan Poles or other upright poles designed for supporting backdrops.   If you want to stretch it pretty flat, just use "pony clamps" to stretch and attach it to the uprights.

May 24 15 09:57 pm Link