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Photographer

RickyMichiels

Posts: 100

London, England, United Kingdom

Hey guys so I have a client coming up that wants super bright and fun photos that will be shot in a studio and was wondering if anyone knew how to achieve this lighting... I will be shooting in studio.
I'm thinking large umbrella but not sure.. I've never lit like this before. Need a very nylon-esque feel to the photos.
https://s17.postimg.org/6km83ixzv/image.jpg
https://s2.postimg.org/rmnnkqdgl/image.jpg
https://s11.postimg.org/eqac6bvin/image.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/or4417ndn/image.jpg

Jul 11 15 04:34 pm Link

Photographer

E Thompson Photography

Posts: 719

Hyattsville, Maryland, US

It looks like a lightly diffused bare reflector right above or to the left or right of camera lens. The lighting is emulating on camera flash.

Jul 11 15 06:04 pm Link

Photographer

HV images

Posts: 634

Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom

You have at least two different lighting setups on those samples.

Do a search for "Terry Richardson lighting style", you will find plenty of tutorials.

The basic premise is: light source big or small, above and pretty much on axis with the lens, the white bg is then lighten on post.

The second set up is lighting the bg independently, the bg lights are flagged to avoid spilling onto the models and the models are lit with very large source, maybe a parabolic source + reflector.

Someone with more experience may correct me if that's not the case.

Jul 11 15 06:43 pm Link

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Voy

Posts: 1594

Phoenix, Arizona, US

You can also try over exposing the flash. When using strobes, what ever your light meter is telling you over expose by 1/3 or 2/3 with your aperture.

Jul 11 15 07:33 pm Link

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Guss W

Posts: 10964

Clearwater, Florida, US

Look for clues in the light reflections on the cheek, chin, and shiny shoes.
I'm going with the "Terry Richardson Lighting" theory.  He crams one or two speedlights close to the lens to cast a fairly sharp light while leaving minimal or no shadows behind the subject.  It's a kind of a quality version of what happens when people use small, cheap pocket cameras with the flash close to the lens.  The effect is sort of like a ring light, but sharper.

Jul 11 15 08:24 pm Link

Photographer

RickyMichiels

Posts: 100

London, England, United Kingdom

The studio I'm using I believe only has softboxes, would you recommend setting two up on their side of the camera and taking the diffusion material out and shooting that way for the sharp shadows and large bright foreground?

Jul 12 15 05:37 am Link

Photographer

Mike Collins

Posts: 2880

Orlando, Florida, US

RickyMichiels wrote:
The studio I'm using I believe only has softboxes, would you recommend setting two up on their side of the camera and taking the diffusion material out and shooting that way for the sharp shadows and large bright foreground?

To match the lighting you mention?  Probably not.  But if you do, use only one.  There is only one shadow on the sample images you posted.  That means one light source.  And it's a very hard shadow so that means a very small light source or one that is placed pretty far away. 

The softness or hardness of the shadow(s) depends on the size AND distance of the light source in relation to the subject.  The larger and/or closer it is, the softer the shadow edge transfer will be.  The further and/or smaller it is, the harder it will be.

Jul 12 15 05:48 am Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

benrayner.com

Jul 12 15 08:41 am Link

Model

Shei P

Posts: 540

Brooklyn, New York, US

i would start here  https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11020918_10205437959521206_414738389_n.jpg?oh=472247ba272629d9d08f7b9f6cc0dedb&oe=55A583F8

Jul 12 15 09:14 am Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

Shei  P wrote:
i would start here  https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11020918_10205437959521206_414738389_n.jpg?oh=472247ba272629d9d08f7b9f6cc0dedb&oe=55A583F8

Ben Rayner is the photographer. i would start there.

https://media.virbcdn.com/cdn_images/resize_1024x1365/0b/cb0354ab71b45fda-img011.jpg

Jul 12 15 11:46 am Link

Model

Shei P

Posts: 540

Brooklyn, New York, US

Mark Laubenheimer wrote:
Ben Rayner is the photographer. i would start there.

https://media.virbcdn.com/cdn_images/resize_1024x1365/0b/cb0354ab71b45fda-img011.jpg

Actually it all probably started here, like 20yrs ago https://artblart.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/nc3bcr080805_5_18-web.jpg?w=655&h=432

Jul 12 15 01:40 pm Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

Shei  P wrote:
Actually it all probably started here, like 20yrs ago https://artblart.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/nc3bcr080805_5_18-web.jpg?w=655&h=432

probably.....except that image is from 2005

but actually Ben Rayner is the photographer. tongue

Jul 12 15 01:56 pm Link

Model

Shei P

Posts: 540

Brooklyn, New York, US

Mark Laubenheimer wrote:

probably.....except that image is from 2005

but actually Ben Rayner is the photographer. tongue

True...but where do you think Ben it from?

Jul 12 15 02:19 pm Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

Shei  P wrote:

True...but where do you think Ben it from?

ah...the history of a photograph.

Jul 12 15 02:27 pm Link

Photographer

Voy

Posts: 1594

Phoenix, Arizona, US

A long time ago a tried the TR lighting. I used a bare strobe and I over exposed by 1/3. Here is my cheap attempt:

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/150712/22/55a3512c51870.jpg
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/150712/22/55a350ff312e1.jpg

Jul 12 15 10:56 pm Link

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Wilde One

Posts: 2373

Santa Monica, California, US

The image title "top stitch" looks like a ring flash.

Jul 12 15 11:11 pm Link

Photographer

RickyMichiels

Posts: 100

London, England, United Kingdom

Thank you guys, really appreciate the help!

Jul 13 15 05:23 am Link

Photographer

Mikey McMichaels

Posts: 3356

New York, New York, US

RickyMichiels wrote:
Hey guys so I have a client coming up that wants super bright and fun photos that will be shot in a studio and was wondering if anyone knew how to achieve this lighting... I will be shooting in studio.
I'm thinking large umbrella but not sure.. I've never lit like this before. Need a very nylon-esque feel to the photos.
https://s17.postimg.org/6km83ixzv/image.jpg
https://s2.postimg.org/rmnnkqdgl/image.jpg
https://s11.postimg.org/eqac6bvin/image.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/or4417ndn/image.jpg

Those are all shot with the flash on a bracket on the camera except for the last one which what shot with the flash in the hotshoe and the camera turned sideways.


I know of one popular photographer who shoots everything horizontal and then crops in post rather than using a bracket, but he's experienced enough to know how to frame it and not lose resolution.

Jul 13 15 11:11 am Link

Photographer

Mikey McMichaels

Posts: 3356

New York, New York, US

Shei  P wrote:

True...but where do you think Ben it from?

The same place Terry Richardson took it from - the thousands of people who shot with built-in flashes before they ever picked up a camera.  Or really, flashes of any kind.

Jul 13 15 11:13 am Link

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Mikey McMichaels

Posts: 3356

New York, New York, US

Wilde One wrote:
The image title "top stitch" looks like a ring flash.

It's not. There's a shadow below the dress.

And below her left arm and right fingers.

Jul 13 15 11:15 am Link

Model

Shei P

Posts: 540

Brooklyn, New York, US

Wilde One wrote:
The image title "top stitch" looks like a ring flash.

it kinda looks that way but its not.

Jul 13 15 12:25 pm Link

Photographer

Guss W

Posts: 10964

Clearwater, Florida, US

RickyMichiels wrote:
The studio I'm using I believe only has softboxes, would you recommend setting two up on their side of the camera and taking the diffusion material out and shooting that way for the sharp shadows and large bright foreground?

Try using just one, standing with your head and camera just in front of it so there is light coming over your shoulders on the left, right, and over the top of your head.

Jul 13 15 12:32 pm Link