terrencewicks wrote:
What is the standard trade off when working with models when the item you're bartering is a model's time for prints?

There is no "standard".   I give the model a disk with everything that I think will be usable in either of our ports, edited, unwatermarked, and sized both for printing and for web posting.  On the other extreme, some photographers limit that to one or two pictures that the photographer won't be ashamed and splashed with watermarks that make the pictures useless for the model. 

In theory, you're trading value for value, your time, experience, equipment usage, etc. for her time, experience, "look" and marketability.  If you're at all human, you will almost certainly have a somewhat inflated sense of you value coupled with a somewhat deflated sense of the model's value.  And it's almost certain that the model's evaluation will mirror, that is, be the exact opposite of yours.  So the only real way to decide is to discuss the deal fully with the model and reach an agreement that both of you think is fair.  If you can't agree, you're probably both better off if you just don't shoot together.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Rays Fine Art wrote:
There is no "standard".   I give the model a disk with everything that I think will be usable in either of our ports, edited, unwatermarked, and sized both for printing and for web posting.  On the other extreme, some photographers limit that to one or two pictures that the photographer won't be ashamed and splashed with watermarks that make the pictures useless for the model. 

In theory, you're trading value for value, your time, experience, equipment usage, etc. for her time, experience, "look" and marketability.  If you're at all human, you will almost certainly have a somewhat inflated sense of you value coupled with a somewhat deflated sense of the model's value.  And it's almost certain that the model's evaluation will mirror, that is, be the exact opposite of yours.  So the only real way to decide is to discuss the deal fully with the model and reach an agreement that both of you think is fair.  If you can't agree, you're probably both better off if you just don't shoot together.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Really the best answer to this question that I've read in a long time! 

Trade is very much negotiable!  Pay is also negotiable.

Noting the other thread about deposits, that too is negotiable.

In addition to having good photographic or modeling skills, being good at negotiation is very helpful.

terrencewicks wrote:
What is the standard trade off when working with models when the item you're bartering is a model's time for prints?

My mode of operation is similar to Ray's. However, many photographers limit the number of images that they release. Regardless, if you want to establish a good reputation in your area, it is imperative that models receive images in exchange for their time.

Photographic Adventures wrote:
There are quite a number of variations on the theme.  From my perspective, the important thing is to clearly communicate with the model as to what you plan to deliver.  Then, be sure to deliver what you promise in the time-frame you specified.

You need to decide what you think is going to match your workflow and show your work in the best light.  I've seen photographers shoot 500+ frames and at the end just dump them on a CD or SD card and be done and walk away.  Others give one or two professionally edited photos from a session.  I tend to give 2-3 edited photos per look.

QFT