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Robb Mann

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Baltimore, Maryland, US

They were just up on Nikonrumors as official announcements, then the site went down. A wee bit premature? (Edit-back again)

The D500 is a total surprise, and I want one: http://nikonrumors.com/2016/01/05/nikon … ore-100841

Official D500 announcement: http://www.nikon.com/news/2016/0106_dslr_02.htm
D500 micro site: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/microsite/d500/
Juicy details: http://chsvimg.nikon.com/lineup/microsi … digest.pdf



D5 rumors appear to have been accurate : http://nikonrumors.com/2016/01/05/nikon … nced.aspx/

Jan 05 16 12:36 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

WTCluck?  D500...Oh My Lanta.

I was only expecting the D5...Well Nikon Pull this off. So Shut the Cluck up about the D400....lol

Jan 05 16 12:42 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

The new AF system is shared with the D5, and is called 'frame filling', which matches what I read about the D5, looks like no CF card, one XQD and one SD. Tilting screen...

Found the first buzzkill - the viewfinder. D5 is 100% coverage with 0.72x magnification, D500 is 98% coverage with 1.0x magnification. Seems an odd place to skimp on a pro camera.

Jan 05 16 12:53 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Robb Mann wrote:
The new AF system is shared with the D5, and is called 'frame filling', which matches what I read about the D5, looks like no CF card, one XQD and one SD. Tilting screen...

The D5 and D500 are Touch Screen...Finally got to the 2008..lol

Jan 05 16 12:58 pm Link

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S230

Posts: 646

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

really large buffer size!

Jan 05 16 01:06 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

The D500 is starting to look like Nikon's first serious attempt to make real hybrid video/still camera. But yes, 10fps with a 200 image buffer - I think that'll help people live with the XQD card.

Jan 05 16 01:11 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

I'm in SHOCK !!!

and it looks like I better not sell my one XQD card now.

Shame for how much I have invested in CF.


No U1/U2, but I can live with that.


Now, look at the photos of the top of the D5 and D500... they swapped the Mode and ISO buttons... WTF

I can't wait to see how that works in person.. at first, with the lack of U1/U2 it may be tougher to quickly change ISO, but it may work, even though it is yet another layout change, and yet another layout to remember when using multiple bodies.

Jan 05 16 01:16 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

No pop-up flash on the D500. So, damn, it's not like they didn't have the room for a better viewfinder.

Jan 05 16 01:27 pm Link

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Tapiwa Muronda Photo

Posts: 208

Kingston, New York, US

According to the specs it does have a dual card slot.

Jan 05 16 01:35 pm Link

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Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

DX?!

Dead on arrival for me.

Nevertheless, I just ordered a D750 couple days ago. At least I'm not not kicking myself for fearing the D500 makes my yet-to-arrive D750 obsolete.

Jan 05 16 01:36 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Tapiwa Muronda Photo wrote:
According to the specs it does have a dual card slot.

XQD  and SD

Jan 05 16 01:40 pm Link

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Shawn Wright Photo

Posts: 208

Niagara Falls, New York, US

I waited long enough for this so I'm mostly done with DX, as my D300 has been relegated to a rarely-used backup, but ISO 1,640,000? I know that's full boost mode, but that's far, far beyond anything that Canon or anyone else has released. You can practically shoot in almost total darkness with that.

Edit: I just read the specs on the D5. ISO 3,280,000, which is pretty much night vision, at full boost mode, with a high native ISO of 102,400. Also, 12-14 frames per second, etc. Good lord, man. Nikon has Canon by the cojones.

Jan 05 16 01:45 pm Link

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Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

Shawn Wright Photo wrote:
Edit: I just read the specs on the D5. ISO 3,280,000, which is pretty much night vision, at full boost mode, with a high native ISO of 102,400. Also, 12-14 frames per second, etc. Good lord, man. Nikon has Canon by the cojones.

They better make sure there is no light leak in the viewfinder during exposure.

Jan 05 16 01:57 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Posted too fast
missed the links
Nevermind

Jan 05 16 02:04 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Chuckarelei wrote:
DX?!

Dead on arrival for me.

Nevertheless, I just ordered a D750 couple days ago. At least I'm not not kicking myself for fearing the D500 makes my yet-to-arrive D750 obsolete.

Congratulations

I was quite under-impressed with the D750 when I used one last year, compared to a D810 or D4 it felt like a toy.

For FX, I will gladly stick with my D810 and used either a D4/D4x/D5 when needed, but I have a feeling that the D500 will be my new workhorse.

Many pros shoot DX, especially in sports and wildlife, and for us, this is like an overdue gift from the Gods, and finally fills a 7 year void in Nikon's product line.

It is just like there is more than 1 make and model of car, we get to choose what works best for us, and fits our needs/likes.

I'm sure you'll enjoy your D750, which is awesome, just as I am sure I'm going to love my D500.

Jan 05 16 02:16 pm Link

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James Bluck

Posts: 887

Westfield, New Jersey, US

Looking forward to seeing what a pic shot on the D5 at ISO 3,280,000 looks like.

Jan 05 16 02:18 pm Link

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Yingwah Productions

Posts: 1557

New York, New York, US

XQD seems like a dumb choice as so many pros are invested in CF cards.
But I'm excited because I just picked up a 200-500mm. Thats a whole lotta zoom on DX

Jan 05 16 02:49 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Yingwah Productions wrote:
XQD seems like a dumb choice as so many pros are invested in CF cards.
But I'm excited because I just picked up a 200-500mm. Thats a whole lotta zoom on DX

On paper, XQD is a superior format for things like high speed writes. The inclusion of a XQD card makes me wonder if video is a prime function.

Jan 05 16 03:32 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Robb Mann wrote:

On paper, XQD is a superior format for things like high speed writes. The inclusion of a XQD card makes me wonder if video is a prime function.

Exactly...

unfortunately they are so much more expensive than CF which are more than SD

Like $130 for a 64 gig is on the low end, for folks who have not priced them.

Jan 05 16 03:38 pm Link

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TIMELESS

Posts: 207

Baltimore, Maryland, US

I’m glad to see Nikon has returned back to it’s traditional numbering system. In the past whenever they released a flagship camera there was almost always the release of a companion camera system. The only exception was with the D4 which never had a companion D400.  I wish the D500 was full frame and had 24 + mps similar to the D750.  At the moment,  I am still shooting with my D200 but now it's time to retire that system and upgrade to the D500.

Jan 05 16 03:53 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

TIMELESS wrote:
I’m glad to see Nikon has returned back to it’s traditional numbering system. In the past whenever they released a flagship camera there was almost always the release of a companion camera system. The only exception was with the D4 which never had a companion D400.  I wish the D500 was full frame and had 24 + mps similar to the D750.

Right, because you don't already have enough professional quality FX bodies to choose from.

It has been what, 7 or 8 years since a new professional quality DX body, and folks have the nerve to say they wish it was FX.

The reason it is a big deal is that it FINALLY is NOT FX...

"I wish it was full frame...",  that's like saying I wish spaghetti was pizza, because pizza is obviously better, and what everyone wants to have all the time.

Jan 05 16 04:01 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

TIMELESS wrote:
I’m glad to see Nikon has returned back to it’s traditional numbering system. In the past whenever they released a flagship camera there was almost always the release of a companion camera system. The only exception was with the D4 which never had a companion D400.  I wish the D500 was full frame and had 24 + mps similar to the D750.  At the moment,  I am still shooting with my D200 but now it's time to retire that system and upgrade to the D500.

Ive been thinking about this too, and I think Nikon just gave up the only chance they had to rescue their numbering system.

The D500 should thave been the D50, or the D10 perhaps, (since D50 was already used).

Dx- pro Fx (D3, D4,D5)
Dxx - pro Dx (where the D500 shoild have been)
Dxxx - prosumer/consumer FX (D600, 750, 800)
Dxxxx - prosumer/consumer DX (D3200, D7100)

Jan 05 16 04:19 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Robb Mann wrote:
Ive been thinking about this too, and I think Nikon just gave up the only chance they had to rescue their numbering system.

The D500 should thave been the D50, or the D10 perhaps, (since D50 was already used).

Dx- pro Fx (D3, D4,D5)
Dxx - pro Dx (where the D500 shoild have been)
Dxxx - prosumer/consumer FX (D600, 750, 800)
Dxxxx - prosumer/consumer DX (D3200, D7100)

D800/E/10  That is a Pro Camera.  But Fan Boys decide.

It is used by TV Shows and Commercials, and Professional Photographers...

Jan 05 16 04:33 pm Link

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TIMELESS

Posts: 207

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Jan 05 16 04:40 pm Link

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Frozen Instant Imagery

Posts: 4152

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Robb Mann wrote:
Ive been thinking about this too, and I think Nikon just gave up the only chance they had to rescue their numbering system.

The D500 should thave been the D50, or the D10 perhaps, (since D50 was already used).

Dx- pro Fx (D3, D4,D5)
Dxx - pro Dx (where the D500 shoild have been)
Dxxx - prosumer/consumer FX (D600, 750, 800)
Dxxxx - prosumer/consumer DX (D3200, D7100)

Dxx is pro DX - like the D40 big_smile

Jan 05 16 04:45 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Frozen Instant Imagery wrote:

Dxx is pro DX - like the D40 big_smile

I guess I was a pro at one point and time....I had the Nikon D40X...Now I only use a D810. lol

Jan 05 16 04:56 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:

I guess I was a pro at one point and time....I had the Nikon D40X...Now I only use a D810. lol

Thats my point exactly. Nikon has made a complete mess of their camera numbering system, and they just threw away the last chance at redemption.

Jan 05 16 05:37 pm Link

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S230

Posts: 646

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Robb Mann wrote:

Thats my point exactly. Nikon has made a complete mess of their camera numbering system, and they just threw away the last chance at redemption.

Canon did the same and I am scratching my head about their numbering system.

Jan 05 16 05:43 pm Link

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Shawn Wright Photo

Posts: 208

Niagara Falls, New York, US

Here's a review of the D500 and SB-5000 from concert photographer Todd Owyoung.

http://www.ishootshows.com/2016/01/05/s … d-sb-5000/

Jan 05 16 05:45 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Robb Mann wrote:

Thats my point exactly. Nikon has made a complete mess of their camera numbering system, and they just threw away the last chance at redemption.

I think I heard at one point by my Japanese Friends..that 400 is a bad number over in Japan...Bad Luck. or some shit like that.

Jan 05 16 05:46 pm Link

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JadedWriter

Posts: 183

New York, New York, US

I'm going to assume that 10 fps and buffer limit would make it a lot easier to do those god damn jumping shots models want me to do.

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:

I think I heard at one point by my Japanese Friends..that 400 is a bad number over in Japan...Bad Luck. or some shit like that.

4 means death.

Jan 05 16 05:54 pm Link

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Voy

Posts: 1594

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Nikon did a good move by putting 4K video on the D5. Plus the 153 AF area points is a great idea. It will make AF 3D tracking even better. If I had the money I would definitely buy one.

Jan 05 16 08:36 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

A Potential Major Flaw with the Nikon D5....Matt Granger posted a video...Watch.  It has to do with max recording time in 4K...Just..3 Minutes. WOW.  And Jared Polin said the D500 Touch Screen will not allow you full access of settings. Nikon Come On! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzqTeahNF1w

I got this from Nikon's Website...Here it is..Nikon Shot themselves in the foot.

3 minutes at high quality only for 4K UHD 3840 x 2160/24/25/30p recording
10 minutes at highest quality or 20 minutes at normal quality setting for 1920 x 1080/50/60p recording
20 minutes at highest quality for all recording options except 4K UHD, 1920 x 1080/50/60p and 640 x 424/25/30p
29 minutes 59 seconds at normal quality for all recording options except 4K UHD, and 1920 x 1080/50/60p

Jan 06 16 12:38 am Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
A Potential Major Flaw with the Nikon D5....Matt Granger posted a video...Watch.  It has to do with max recording time in 4K...Just..3 Minutes. WOW.  And Jared Polin said the D500 Touch Screen will not allow you full access of settings. Nikon Come On!

The D500 will record 29 mins, 59 secs of Full Uncompressed UHD. Another hint that it, not the D5, is meant to be the video camera.

Jan 06 16 02:26 am Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Robb Mann wrote:

The D500 will record 29 mins, 59 secs of Full Uncompressed UHD. Another hint that it, not the D5, is meant to be the video camera.

But on their website..nikonusa...it says that the D500 will only do 3 minutes in 4K ..max...also..

Jan 06 16 02:59 am Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:

But on their website..nikonusa...it says that the D500 will only do 3 minutes in 4K ..max...also..

Not on the pages I'm looking at. Straight off the announcement: http://www.nikon.com/news/2016/0106_dslr_02.htm

4K UHD video, suitable for professional productions
The D500 can record 4K UHD (3840 x 2160)/30p/25p/24p as well as 1080/60p video for up to 29 min. 59 s*1, with simultaneous output via HDMI available. It is also possible to generate 4K UHD time-lapse movies within the camera. In Full HD or HD mode, the D500's electronic Vibration Reduction function*2 reduces the effects of camera shake in the horizontal, vertical and rotational directions during hand-held movie recording, while Active D-Lighting preserves details in highlights and shadows to capture footage with natural brightness.

*1Recorded in separate files.
*2Image area will be slightly smaller in DX-based movie format.

Jan 06 16 04:26 am Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Robb Mann wrote:
Not on the pages I'm looking at. Straight off the announcement: http://www.nikon.com/news/2016/0106_dslr_02.htm

4K UHD video, suitable for professional productions
The D500 can record 4K UHD (3840 x 2160)/30p/25p/24p as well as 1080/60p video for up to 29 min. 59 s*1, with simultaneous output via HDMI available. It is also possible to generate 4K UHD time-lapse movies within the camera. In Full HD or HD mode, the D500's electronic Vibration Reduction function*2 reduces the effects of camera shake in the horizontal, vertical and rotational directions during hand-held movie recording, while Active D-Lighting preserves details in highlights and shadows to capture footage with natural brightness.

*1Recorded in separate files.
*2Image area will be slightly smaller in DX-based movie format.

I am here to help...You.  Click on. You only got 3 minutes to find! lol Go!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct … 1844,d.cGc

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-produc … index.page

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-produc … as/d5.html


http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-produc … cs-desktop



Movie Metering TTL exposure metering using main image sensor
Movie Maximum recording time 3 minutes at high quality only for 4K UHD 3840 x 2160/24/25/30p recording
10 minutes at highest quality or 20 minutes at normal quality setting for 1920 x 1080/50/60p recording
20 minutes at highest quality for all recording options except 4K UHD, 1920 x 1080/50/60p and 640 x 424/25/30p
29 minutes 59 seconds at normal quality for all recording options except 4K UHD, and 1920 x 1080/50/60p


Hang on...only 3 minutes in D5...29 minutes in D500..IT was a Misprint on NikonUSA...never mind..plus Peter at NR said there were other tech errors on Nikon's Website...

Jan 06 16 07:57 am Link

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American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

In my world i would rarely shoot a scene where i would need more than three minutes in a single shot.  That is a non-issue for me.

Jan 06 16 08:52 am Link

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smoothgroove

Posts: 317

Zurich, Zurich, Switzerland

No stopping 4K UHD. Expect all current Nikon and Canon bodies to be obsoleted by 4K models this year, causing prices for 2nd hand bodies to plummet due to oversupply...

Jan 06 16 09:40 am Link

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David M Russell

Posts: 1301

New York, New York, US

Robb Mann wrote:
The new AF system is shared with the D5, and is called 'frame filling', which matches what I read about the D5, looks like no CF card, one XQD and one SD. Tilting screen...

Found the first buzzkill - the viewfinder. D5 is 100% coverage with 0.72x magnification, D500 is 98% coverage with 1.0x magnification. Seems an odd place to skimp on a pro camera.

100% viewfinder coverage is a rarity. 98% is pretty normal, even for pro-level  and high-end pro-sumer cameras.

Jan 06 16 10:18 am Link